Big rally in London today...

[Not Now Kato]

As far as I can see most remainiacs are like these environmentalist nut jobs who want us all driving electric cars within fourteen years, but have no idea where all the electricity is going to come from.

First of all, could you perhaps address people who have different views, with a bit of courtesy.?

Secondly, as I asked Boomstick earlier, can you tell me what will happen to EU residents currently here in the UK, when Brexit actually happens.??

Can you.??

To eventually answer your question. ( Sorry for the delay)
I don't think anything will happen whatsoever to them.
However, I do believe for obvious reasons that open season of British jobs for EU nationals will finish .
The floodgates are rightly closing.

Are you seriously suggesting that preference is given to EU nationals for what you call 'British Jobs'?
 
The mind boggles!

[Glyn_Wigley]

Preference is given to people who work hard and do the job properly. And want the job in the first place.

[Bentley Bullet]

.......And for less money?

[Not Now Kato]

.......And for less money?

So now you're suggesting these EU nationals come here and say "we'll work for less than you're advertising the job for"? Seriously?

[Axholme Lion]

If a dog is born in a stable it does not make it a horse.

If that stable is in Britain then it’s a British dog.!

No. It's a foreign dog born in Britain.
So are you saying the children of British service men born in Germany for example, are German and not British?
Where you are born is nothing to do with the matter and you know it, but it doesn't suit your left wing agenda.

[RedJ]

If a dog is born in a stable it does not make it a horse.

If that stable is in Britain then it’s a British dog.!

No. It's a foreign dog born in Britain.
So are you saying the children of British service men born in Germany for example, are German and not British?
Where you are born is nothing to do with the matter and you know it, but it doesn't suit your left wing agenda.

Well the German administrators see British military bases as British soil, so, er...

[wing commander]

  Reality is Lion whether we like it or not he is British and therefore entitled to everything that everybody else is..He has the perfect storm in his favour..

  It makes my blood boil it really does and if he (cough) vanished tomorrow I would smile but that's nothing to do with being left or right wing but the law of the land..

 

[IDM]

If a dog is born in a stable it does not make it a horse.

If that stable is in Britain then it’s a British dog.!

No. It's a foreign dog born in Britain.
So are you saying the children of British service men born in Germany for example, are German and not British?
Where you are born is nothing to do with the matter and you know it, but it doesn't suit your left wing agenda.

Why is he foreign.?  I’m not defending a convicted criminal (I didnt decide his sentence did I) but just because his heritage is from elsewhere doesn’t make him less British..

The undertones in your arguments are very disturbing, and very sad in this day and age..

Where you are born has everything to do with the matter..

My agenda isn’t left or indeed any “wing” - it is personal if you can be arsed to read the thread properly..

At least Boomstick had the courtesy to answer my question - he/she couldn’t answer it properly as no one can, which is my entire point as there is no clarity yet on many of the issues with Brexit..

[IDM]

As far as I can see most remainiacs are like these environmentalist nut jobs who want us all driving electric cars within fourteen years, but have no idea where all the electricity is going to come from.

First of all, could you perhaps address people who have different views, with a bit of courtesy.?

Secondly, as I asked Boomstick earlier, can you tell me what will happen to EU residents currently here in the UK, when Brexit actually happens.??

Can you.??

To eventually answer your question. ( Sorry for the delay)
I don't think anything will happen whatsoever to them.

Thanks for coming back, no issues with a delayed response..

You hit the nail on the head saying you “think” nothing would happen to my family - I “think” the same but let’s be clear here, “think” doesn’t mean “know”..

It’s the uncertainty that’s the issue.. and just enough of the electorate voted to bring this uncertainty on all of us..

I am by no means tarring everyone with the same brush but if enough folks have the same opinions as one individual on this thread, god help us all.!!

[Bentley Bullet]

.......And for less money?

So now you're suggesting these EU nationals come here and say "we'll work for less than you're advertising the job for"? Seriously?

I'm suggesting that companies can reduce wages in the UK because EU nationals will fill the positions.

[wilts rover]

.......And for less money?

So now you're suggesting these EU nationals come here and say "we'll work for less than you're advertising the job for"? Seriously?

I'm suggesting that companies can reduce wages in the UK because EU nationals will fill the positions.

Even though the evidence doesn't support that suggestion?

https://fullfact.org/immigration/immigration-and-jobs-labour-market-effects-immigration/

[Bentley Bullet]

Depends on what evidence you choose to believe.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12063052/Mass-migration-driving-down-wages-offered-to-British-jobseekers.html

[Glyn_Wigley]

.......And for less money?

So now you're suggesting these EU nationals come here and say "we'll work for less than you're advertising the job for"? Seriously?

I'm suggesting that companies can reduce wages in the UK because EU nationals will fill the positions.

They've raised the wages on offer and still British workers don't want to do 'British' jobs.

[wilts rover]

Depends on what evidence you choose to believe.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12063052/Mass-migration-driving-down-wages-offered-to-British-jobseekers.html

Well mine is from 2017 and discusses EU and non-EU immigration and yours is from 2015 and makes no distinction between the two so I guess people have a choice on what they want to look at regarding up to date data on EU nationals reducing wages.

[Bentley Bullet]

Wilts. The question was only about EU immigrants!

Yours might be from an article dated in 2017 but it doesn't say when the research was carried out, does it!

Besides, does it really say enough to come down on your side of the argument?

[Boomstick]

As far as I can see most remainiacs are like these environmentalist nut jobs who want us all driving electric cars within fourteen years, but have no idea where all the electricity is going to come from.

First of all, could you perhaps address people who have different views, with a bit of courtesy.?

Secondly, as I asked Boomstick earlier, can you tell me what will happen to EU residents currently here in the UK, when Brexit actually happens.??

Can you.??

To eventually answer your question. ( Sorry for the delay)
I don't think anything will happen whatsoever to them.
However, I do believe for obvious reasons that open season of British jobs for EU nationals will finish .
The floodgates are rightly closing.

Are you seriously suggesting that preference is given to EU nationals for what you call 'British Jobs'?
 
The mind boggles!

Where did I say that ?

[Campsall rover]

Well I work for the National Centre of Social Research and one of the Study/Surveys we do is the ‘British Social Attitudes Survey.’ which has been running since 1983 and is widely used by Government, Academics and the Media as to ‘What the British public are thinking’.
There are questions on the EU and Brexit and I can tell you the vast majority of people had not a clue as to what they were really voting for with an IN or OUT question.
Nobody had a clue that this was going to be such a complex process to leave the EU.
The customs Union was never mentioned was it, when we voted.
The single market was never mentioned was it, when we voted.

In my opinion we should stay in on a trading basis only as that was why we joined the Common market in 1974.
As for everything else we should not be getting told by EU what we can or cannot do. We are Britain a country in Europe not the other way round.

What on earth was Cameron thinking when he decided to have this ludicrous referendum.
What he should have been doing is standing up to the EU and re negotiating our membership.

[Herbert Anchovy]

Well I work for the National Centre of Social Research and one of the Study/Surveys we do is the ‘British Social Attitudes Survey.’ which has been running since 1983 and is widely used by Government, Academics and the Media as to ‘What the British public are thinking’.
There are questions on the EU and Brexit and I can tell you the vast majority of people had not a clue as to what they were really voting for with an IN or OUT question.
Nobody had a clue that this was going to be such a complex process to leave the EU.
The customs Union was never mentioned was it, when we voted.
The single market was never mentioned was it, when we voted.

In my opinion we should stay in on a trading basis only as that was why we joined the Common market in 1974.
As for everything else we should not be getting told by EU what we can or cannot do. We are Britain a country in Europe not the other way round.

What on earth was Cameron thinking when he decided to have this ludicrous referendum.
What he should have been doing is standing up to the EU and re negotiating our membership.

Didn’t he try to renegotiate just prior to the referendum and he came back with nothing?

[Campsall rover]

Well I work for the National Centre of Social Research and one of the Study/Surveys we do is the ‘British Social Attitudes Survey.’ which has been running since 1983 and is widely used by Government, Academics and the Media as to ‘What the British public are thinking’.
There are questions on the EU and Brexit and I can tell you the vast majority of people had not a clue as to what they were really voting for with an IN or OUT question.
Nobody had a clue that this was going to be such a complex process to leave the EU.
The customs Union was never mentioned was it, when we voted.
The single market was never mentioned was it, when we voted.

In my opinion we should stay in on a trading basis only as that was why we joined the Common market in 1974.
As for everything else we should not be getting told by EU what we can or cannot do. We are Britain a country in Europe not the other way round.

What on earth was Cameron thinking when he decided to have this ludicrous referendum.
What he should have been doing is standing up to the EU and re negotiating our membership.

Didn’t he try to renegotiate just prior to the referendum and he came back with nothing?

Did he? I honestly don’t know.