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sha66y

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January window
« on October 31, 2018, 08:11:18 am by sha66y »

Scenario 1
the manager does bring 2-3 players in, and though they looked great on paper they don’t gel or perform , and we end up in a dog fight....

Scenario 2
the manager doesn’t bring any new players in, and we continue to fluff opportunities and end up in a dog fight...

Question;

Do we rage at the Manager for the poor signings
Or
Do we rage at the Manager for not flashing the cash

Or do we scroll through endless Championship Xbox games looking for the  “ one I would have signed” ....Just to make ourselves look more knowledgable
« Last Edit: October 31, 2018, 10:34:01 am by sha66y »



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idler

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Re: January window
« Reply #1 on October 31, 2018, 08:40:25 am by idler »
We might just be sensible and give the manager the summer to move on players that he doesn't want and then build his own team for next season.

Campsall rover

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Re: January window
« Reply #2 on October 31, 2018, 08:57:12 am by Campsall rover »
We might just be sensible and give the manager the summer to move on players that he doesn't want and then build his own team for next season.
That would be the sensible option of course, but some will want instant success.
Anything above 10th place this season will be success imo. Next season top 6 is the goal and I would expect that to be very achievable.

steve@dcfd

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Re: January window
« Reply #3 on October 31, 2018, 11:19:54 am by steve@dcfd »
GM said in his first Supporters meeting he had the funds he had the squad for a top six finish which GB and the board have set as their goal. He also said money was still available after the window closed. It’s his job to bring in players that will improve our squad to ensure we hit the goal he has been set. Anything less he will not have achieved what the board set him to do when selected by them.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2018, 11:51:05 am by steve@dcfd »

scawsby steve

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Re: January window
« Reply #4 on October 31, 2018, 05:15:39 pm by scawsby steve »
GM said in his first Supporters meeting he had the funds he had the squad for a top six finish which GB and the board have set as their goal. He also said money was still available after the window closed. It’s his job to bring in players that will improve our squad to ensure we hit the goal he has been set. Anything less he will not have achieved what the board set him to do when selected by them.

I keep saying this Steve, but some people seem to have forgotten that all this was said by the club at the start of the season.


sha66y

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Re: January window
« Reply #5 on October 31, 2018, 06:26:06 pm by sha66y »
GM said in his first Supporters meeting he had the funds he had the squad for a top six finish which GB and the board have set as their goal. He also said money was still available after the window closed. It’s his job to bring in players that will improve our squad to ensure we hit the goal he has been set. Anything less he will not have achieved what the board set him to do when selected by them.

I keep saying this Steve, but some people seem to have forgotten that all this was said by the club at the start of the season.


As the season is still on-going, are you not being a bit “ previous” with your views?
Perhaps your point would be valid if we are outside the top 6 at the END of the season, not at the 1/3 point!

Unless of course you have time travelled and are merely pointing out what only you can know?

If “ impatience” was a drug, I feel you would be well past rehabilitation...

And just in case I flew too close to the truth....can you remember the numbers for this weeks euro, I will give all the money to our club to fund the obvious transfers required.....

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: January window
« Reply #6 on October 31, 2018, 06:31:36 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
What a about scenario 3. Manager brings in 2 or 3 players who perform?

since-1969

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Re: January window
« Reply #7 on October 31, 2018, 06:51:56 pm by since-1969 »
With TOO many players out of contract the board would will not jeopardise loosing key players before they need to. So imo i doubt that we will bring in any more than 1 to bolster the attack .

steve@dcfd

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Re: January window
« Reply #8 on October 31, 2018, 07:02:19 pm by steve@dcfd »
sha66y the views I have written was the managers and the CEO whether it’s now or end of season. I have not put what I think it’s what was the target by the manager and CEO.

So my scenario is unless the manager or CEO comes out again and says that the top 6 is now not achievable then they stay as they are from the beginning of the season. So I’m not impatient or have not time travelled I’m just reiterating what was stipulated by the manager and CEO.

Also I don’t ridicule other people as you are trying to do.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2018, 07:22:23 pm by steve@dcfd »

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: January window
« Reply #9 on October 31, 2018, 09:06:13 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Why do you not allow any scenario where we improve or where any positive can be drawn?

i'll give you a scenario, in the coming games our strikers start converting the many chances we create and our opposition run out of luck (3 shot 3 goals kind of luck) and we strengthen our grip on the playoffs. That seems far more likely than what you seem to believe are the only possible futures.

Also re bringing players in to meet the goals set do we not think a steady integrated approach to signings would be better i.e. don't do a Fulham, and sign a raft of players who are supposed to be good enough for our goals (top six) but do so in such a short space of time (the one summer GM has had) that means struggling to gel and consequently lose a couple of games. Meaning we end up exactly here. Is in not better to build a capable squad over a couple of summers that way ensuring we gel and give players in the existing squad a chance to prove their worth?

Personally i wish the didn't set targets like top 6 so publicly so early i'd rather just see that we are clearly going in the right direction and be happy so long as that we keep improving, which we undoubtedly are. Maybe some people have a need to know exactly our ambitious and the club feels the need to entertain that need even if the only reason anyone wants to know is so they can beat the club with it in an online forum.


scawsby steve

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Re: January window
« Reply #10 on November 01, 2018, 01:24:38 am by scawsby steve »
GM said in his first Supporters meeting he had the funds he had the squad for a top six finish which GB and the board have set as their goal. He also said money was still available after the window closed. It’s his job to bring in players that will improve our squad to ensure we hit the goal he has been set. Anything less he will not have achieved what the board set him to do when selected by them.

I keep saying this Steve, but some people seem to have forgotten that all this was said by the club at the start of the season.


As the season is still on-going, are you not being a bit “ previous” with your views?
Perhaps your point would be valid if we are outside the top 6 at the END of the season, not at the 1/3 point!

Unless of course you have time travelled and are merely pointing out what only you can know?

If “ impatience” was a drug, I feel you would be well past rehabilitation...

And just in case I flew too close to the truth....can you remember the numbers for this weeks euro, I will give all the money to our club to fund the obvious transfers required.....

You're completely missing the point mate; a top 6 finish is not MY expectation, it's the BOARD's.

Some people say they'd be happy with a top 10 finish, and there's nothing wrong with that opinion; however, it's not the remit of the board, that's all I'm saying.

keith79

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Re: January window
« Reply #11 on November 01, 2018, 06:01:38 am by keith79 »
I would take 3/4 seasons in this league if it meant the youth team got what it needed to get to the next stage.

sha66y

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Re: January window
« Reply #12 on November 01, 2018, 09:04:09 am by sha66y »
sha66y the views I have written was the managers and the CEO whether it’s now or end of season. I have not put what I think it’s what was the target by the manager and CEO.

So my scenario is unless the manager or CEO comes out again and says that the top 6 is now not achievable then they stay as they are from the beginning of the season. So I’m not impatient or have not time travelled I’m just reiterating what was stipulated by the manager and CEO.

Also I don’t ridicule other people as you are trying to do.
That’s very interesting....

Are you implying that the top 6 expectation by the board and manager was to be maintained throughout the season ?
And...
Why would the board and manager say that a top 6 finish won’t be achieved whilst the season is still young ?

I fail to see the relevance of a board/manager statement pre season that can be questioned at this stage...

I never ridicule anyone intentionally, however my replies are ...
let’s say “ more formed”

So to wind this up....are you saying the club should issue a statement saying
“ we don’t EXPECT to be in the top 6 at the end of the season...because we have failed to realise the importance of ...spending money = success “


sha66y

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Re: January window
« Reply #13 on November 01, 2018, 09:24:01 am by sha66y »
What a about scenario 3. Manager brings in 2 or 3 players who perform?
This one is the preferred scenario, however under the current climate probably the hardest one to foresee...
Yes we could see results, or damn we just blew the budget....buying an instant striker is more fantasy than myth...
Established strikers are already taken, so it would mean either going abroad, or taking a punt on an unknown at a higher level club...vis a vis Wilkes from Weeds...

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: January window
« Reply #14 on November 01, 2018, 10:44:08 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
What a about scenario 3. Manager brings in 2 or 3 players who perform?
This one is the preferred scenario, however under the current climate probably the hardest one to foresee...
Yes we could see results, or damn we just blew the budget....buying an instant striker is more fantasy than myth...
Established strikers are already taken, so it would mean either going abroad, or taking a punt on an unknown at a higher level club...vis a vis Wilkes from Weeds...


Depends on your viewpoint, 2 or 3 shrewd signings and scenario 3 is just as realistic as 1 or 2.

steve@dcfd

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Re: January window
« Reply #15 on November 01, 2018, 02:09:55 pm by steve@dcfd »
sha66y the views I have written was the managers and the CEO whether it’s now or end of season. I have not put what I think it’s what was the target by the manager and CEO.

So my scenario is unless the manager or CEO comes out again and says that the top 6 is now not achievable then they stay as they are from the beginning of the season. So I’m not impatient or have not time travelled I’m just reiterating what was stipulated by the manager and CEO.

Also I don’t ridicule other people as you are trying to do.
That’s very interesting....

Are you implying that the top 6 expectation by the board and manager was to be maintained throughout the season ?
And...
Why would the board and manager say that a top 6 finish won’t be achieved whilst the season is still young ?

I fail to see the relevance of a board/manager statement pre season that can be questioned at this stage...

I never ridicule anyone intentionally, however my replies are ...
let’s say “ more formed”

So to wind this up....are you saying the club should issue a statement saying
“ we don’t EXPECT to be in the top 6 at the end of the season...because we have failed to realise the importance of ...spending money = success “


Again you have put your own slant on what I have written and formed it wrong.

sha66y

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Re: January window
« Reply #16 on November 01, 2018, 05:47:03 pm by sha66y »
Why do you not allow any scenario where we improve or where any positive can be drawn?

i'll give you a scenario, in the coming games our strikers start converting the many chances we create and our opposition run out of luck (3 shot 3 goals kind of luck) and we strengthen our grip on the playoffs. That seems far more likely than what you seem to believe are the only possible futures.

Also re bringing players in to meet the goals set do we not think a steady integrated approach to signings would be better i.e. don't do a Fulham, and sign a raft of players who are supposed to be good enough for our goals (top six) but do so in such a short space of time (the one summer GM has had) that means struggling to gel and consequently lose a couple of games. Meaning we end up exactly here. Is in not better to build a capable squad over a couple of summers that way ensuring we gel and give players in the existing squad a chance to prove their worth?

Personally i wish the didn't set targets like top 6 so publicly so early i'd rather just see that we are clearly going in the right direction and be happy so long as that we keep improving, which we undoubtedly are. Maybe some people have a need to know exactly our ambitious and the club feels the need to entertain that need even if the only reason anyone wants to know is so they can beat the club with it in an online forum.

I pretty much agree with everything you have alluded to, the reason for the “ negative” slant to the questions is to elicit the truer feelings about not succeeding this term in relation to the boards desire of a top 6 finish....

I want to gauge the reactions of those who can stand back and look at DRFC with a less critical viewpoint....and factor in all the recent changes that may or may not impair our final position....

Pancho Regan

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Re: January window
« Reply #17 on November 01, 2018, 08:40:35 pm by Pancho Regan »

Scenario 1
the manager does bring 2-3 players in, and though they looked great on paper they don’t gel or perform , and we end up in a dog fight....

Scenario 2
the manager doesn’t bring any new players in, and we continue to fluff opportunities and end up in a dog fight...

Question;

Do we rage at the Manager for the poor signings
Or
Do we rage at the Manager for not flashing the cash

Or do we scroll through endless Championship Xbox games looking for the  “ one I would have signed” ....Just to make ourselves look more knowledgable

What a ridiculous thread and an almost unintelligible opening post.

I’m surprised so many have posted their responses, but I guess I’m equally guilty for justifying this rubbish with a reply.

LincolnDonny

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Re: January window
« Reply #18 on November 01, 2018, 09:01:50 pm by LincolnDonny »
i still think we need a leader to gee them up ......like a Rob Jones .....

also a midfielder who can play  the ball through to our willing forwards , and not high crosses that either dont get past first defender ...into touch, or to high for our ball players willing to nip in and dazzle....

and when we score LOOK like a Team that is a cut above others

Pancho Regan

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Re: January window
« Reply #19 on November 02, 2018, 07:05:18 pm by Pancho Regan »
Alternatively, we could say that we are being entertained much more than we were last season, we are involved at the top end of the league rather than at the lower end, and we seem to have a manager who understands what’s needed to progress.

It’s all about how you perceive things.

 

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