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idler

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #150 on April 22, 2020, 09:50:35 am by idler »
I bought my first car in 1966 for £50 from my brother. I was 17 then and on about £7 a week paying £2:50 board.
I got my insurance from Gaurdian checks. It was £20 TPFT. I paid £1 a week for 21 weeks so that Gaurdian got their commission.
Happy days until I wrote it off just before my 18th birthday. We were coming back from football training in Rotherham and I hit the stone wall in Hooton Roberts after a blow out. To make it worse the Rovers lost 6-0 at Oxford that night as well.



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albie

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #151 on April 22, 2020, 11:54:05 am by albie »
In reply to Adam's point, current EV are using Lithium Ion batteries, but there is research investment in different chemistries;
https://environmentjournal.online/articles/ev-battery-can-be-charged-in-seconds/

If new battery tech offers cheaper costs and greater range and charge, it will displace Lithium Ion very quickly.

SydneyRover

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #152 on April 22, 2020, 12:09:43 pm by SydneyRover »

selby

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #153 on April 22, 2020, 04:57:57 pm by selby »
  To  some extent I can see transport by air and road becoming the transport of the rich again like it was in the 1920/30/40's certainly by air travel.

albie

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SydneyRover

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #155 on May 14, 2020, 11:37:05 pm by SydneyRover »
There appears to be a number of people/companies on the 'verge' in this area, hopefully it will be goodbye to noisy, smelly, polluting vehicles and eventually planes Albie.

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #156 on May 15, 2020, 09:16:07 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
We can hope so, it's the biggest potential industrial project the country and world requires.  There's plenty of people (me included) who really want electric vehicles but can't justify the cost.

SydneyRover

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #157 on May 15, 2020, 09:17:32 am by SydneyRover »
Me too bfyp

Donnywolf

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #158 on May 16, 2020, 07:22:32 am by Donnywolf »
Stupidly I was going to have a Nissa Leaf on PCP recently. I wanted an all electric Niro (Kia) or Kona? (Hyundai) but both had 6 months lead time

Nissan Leaf range 168 miles and I thought good but not as good as the above 2

Nissan Leaf E+ range was 239 but cost 4k more which I thought was a lot extra to pay

Instead I stuck to another hybrid but in truth I should have just paid the extra and now will have to wait - disapponted with what is a brilliant car (though I should say I am not interested in cars - they are purely a to b for me) - and will see what happens in a year and see if viable to swap again

albie

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #159 on July 17, 2020, 05:06:24 pm by albie »
Next big move, on the same day details of a new battery gigafactory in the news;
https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2020/07/cobalt-free-battery-promises-higher-energy-density-cheaper-cost/


Muttley

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #160 on July 17, 2020, 06:15:33 pm by Muttley »
Next big move, on the same day details of a new battery gigafactory in the news;
https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2020/07/cobalt-free-battery-promises-higher-energy-density-cheaper-cost/



They've raised £10m so far - just the small matter of raising another £1.2 billion now!

albie

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #161 on July 17, 2020, 06:23:01 pm by albie »
Next big move, on the same day details of a new battery gigafactory in the news;
https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2020/07/cobalt-free-battery-promises-higher-energy-density-cheaper-cost/



They've raised £10m so far - just the small matter of raising another £1.2 billion now!

I am not sure who needs to raise that sum, Muttley.

Usual thing is to sell the tech and all rights to an organisation that can fund the development.
Given the stampede to electrification, if the tech is solid it will be taken up by the big players.

Muttley

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #162 on July 17, 2020, 06:28:38 pm by Muttley »
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Britishvolt is aiming to build factories to manufacture batteries with 30 gigawatt hours (GWh) of capacity a year. The first leg of the plan will require Britishvolt to raise £1.2bn from investors, a significant sum for a company that has so far raised about £10m from a group of Scandinavian and Middle Eastern investors.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/17/battery-firm-chooses-welsh-site-for-britains-first-gigafactory

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Britishvolt, which was only founded in December, will look to raise £300m to £400m in equity through a stock market listing in 2021, with a reverse takeover most likely. An initial public offering is also a possibility, added Mr Nadjari. The rest would come through debt and an unspecified amount of government grants.

https://britishvolt.com/news/battery-start-up-selects-welsh-site-for-uks-first-gigafactory/

albie

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #163 on July 17, 2020, 06:32:40 pm by albie »
OK, you are talking about the factory.

I thought you meant the cobalt free battery!

Metalmicky

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Re: Electric Cars - a serious logistical question
« Reply #164 on July 17, 2020, 07:46:43 pm by Metalmicky »
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Britishvolt is aiming to build factories to manufacture batteries with 30 gigawatt hours (GWh) of capacity a year. The first leg of the plan will require Britishvolt to raise £1.2bn from investors, a significant sum for a company that has so far raised about £10m from a group of Scandinavian and Middle Eastern investors.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/17/battery-firm-chooses-welsh-site-for-britains-first-gigafactory

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Britishvolt, which was only founded in December, will look to raise £300m to £400m in equity through a stock market listing in 2021, with a reverse takeover most likely. An initial public offering is also a possibility, added Mr Nadjari. The rest would come through debt and an unspecified amount of government grants.

https://britishvolt.com/news/battery-start-up-selects-welsh-site-for-uks-first-gigafactory/

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