Proportional Representation (now morphed into B****t 2 or is it 3)

[Bentley Bullet]

You've lost yourself owd lad, not me! My reasoning is, and always has been, how I think Leavers look at the situation. It matters not one iota what my personal view is, although listening to some of you on here I could quite easily vote leave if there is a next time.

Now then. Where do I keep raising the claim that the EU is making it difficult for us to leave?

[Bentley Bullet]

BB

I don't think they needed convincing to SUPPORT Leave. I think they needed a final push to get out and VOTE Leave.

That's the whole point of that advertising campaign. They targeted people whose viewing habits suggested they were anti-EU but who normally didn't vote. They egged them on to vote by lying to them.

That's not my opinion. You could check for yourself instead of assuming I'm trying to blather you. It's what the man who ran the f**king campaign is on record as saying.

So, persuading people to go out and vote for what they believe in, instead of sitting on their arses and not bothering to vote, is wrong?

[BillyStubbsTears]

You reckon stoking folk up with lies after illegally profiling them and making illegal payments to do that ISN'T wrong?

I do hope you're on the jury if I ever get caught doing owt illegal.

[Bentley Bullet]

What lies were they told that they didn't hear in other forms of media?

[BillyStubbsTears]

BB
Like I said. How about you go and do a bit of research about the subject instead of assuming I'm blathering you.

Go and listen to the man who ran the campaign.

https://youtu.be/w3Nw6ikVKU4

He talks about the importance of the £350m and Turkish immigration lies.

He talks about profiling people who were not politically engaged but who were conviceable (precisely the sort of people who wouldn't sit and listen to the TV news).

He talks about "blowing the entire budget in the last 7 days" on hitting 7million people with a torrent of 1.5billion video links to the £350m and Turkish immigration lies in their Facebook feed.

A constant stream of images coming up. Every time they logged onto Facebook.

Lies. Aimed at people who had illegally been profiled as being vulnerable to being lied to about immigration and the EU.

And you reckon REMAINER'S are condescending about Leave voters? This is the Kitson who ran the Leave campaign (and who is now in the middle of a criminal investigation) showing what he thought about them.

He played them. And he got them to vote for a much worse future for themselves.

But hey. I'm sure you know better and it had no effect.   

[Bentley Bullet]

BST. I was trying to do a bit of research by asking you.

Why is it that everything that you read and agree with is true, but everything you read and disagree with is untrue?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Not sure you understand how this research thing works BB.

What you do, is to look for corroborating evidence. And you consider the track record of the people making the claims. You decide what's likely to be true based on that. You don't decide what you want to be true then go looking for things to back up that decision.

So you've got cause and effect t the wrong way round.

You agree with things because, on balance, you think they are true. You don't think they are true because you agree with them.

[Bentley Bullet]

Are you sure about that? I find people look for evidence to corroborate their own opinions.

[Boomstick]

Are you sure about that? I find people look for evidence to corroborate their own opinions.

That's definitely what BST does

[BillyStubbsTears]

We that's a sad commentary on where we are. If, with zero evidence, you assume that other people are unable to be rational and honest.