Nial mason 6 months suspended prison sentence!!!!

[selby]

   Good old radio dee dah, the first time I have heard us be the lead subject on football heaven.

    Rovers fans what do you think about the Mason subject, and I bet we get on tonight

[Padge_DRFC]

Club won’t rush. Not their way to and rightly so.

[PDX_Rover]

I'm sure the club will make an announcement once they've done due diligence with the PFA etc.

[Donnywolf]

Yes so Look North and other media are saying " The Clun have said they wont comment further"

I assume that statement will be untrue because they will take their time - weigh up the pros and cons and I am confident will make a probably difficult decision (whichever way they choose) and then they will announce what that decision is to be

[Upton Rover]

Everyone makes mistakes. And iam sure we have all broken the law at sometime in our life's. The thing is should we get a 2nd chance, and give Mason a 2nd chance I know he's only young and probly earning far to much money and I think some people who are professionals think they have their own laws. Me I would let him find another club and thus shows the club don't agree with what he does. After all running on a pitch is a crime and it's a life time ban. Say no more

[silent majority]

   its due process.
   Personally I'm happy for the club to do what they need to do,follow the correct procedure and come to a balanced decision based on the  factual information that they have, which I'm dam sure will be a lot more than a report in the Free Press...

     it's a sad state of affairs regardless of the outcome

Apparently the club had representatives in court and will have heard what the prosecutor, Mason's QC and the judge had to say.
They won't have factual information other than that.
I can understand Mr Mason trying to defend his son but I can't see how taking a photo would leave DNA on the girl's bra.
What I can't understand is eight people liking his remarks - some of whom had already said he should be dismissed!
In the absence of any clause in his contract stating he would be liable to instant dismissal if he was convicted of any sexual offence the club will have to go through all the due processes.
They are probably right not to comment further until a decision has been made and it might be better if SM didn't comment about it on here on their behalf as well.
As he pleaded guilty there can be no prospect of an appeal, other than against his sentence.
In that case I would have a lot more sympathy for young Mr Mason if he had come out with a public statement admitting his shame and apologising for his behaviour, rather than allowing his father to continue to plead his innocence, and beg the girl and the club to forgive him.
I don't envy the club in their deliberations but I think the final outcome is inevitable.       
 

Could you kindly tell me where I'm commenting on their behalf?

[Branton Rover]

It’s a difficult dilemma for the board - on the one hand like you say he’s been punished, on the other there’s a responsibility that comes with his position & it can reflect badly on the club if he continues to be employed as if nothing has happened - we’ve had in the past at l least 2 man-slaughterers Micky Norbury & Jimmy Kelly - a convicted armed robber in Jamie Lawrence - but we are a very different club these days than we were back then

[PDX_Rover]

Mason has been incredibly stupid. You just can't do that in this day and age. When a woman says no, it means no. You don't bloody well go and try again. I expect we won't see Mason again. And that's tragic as he is developing into quite a player. But, it's his own damn fault. I was prepared to believe his Dad yesterday but if the CCTV has been seen by folks on here as claimed and it's damning as they say, he has to be sacked. It would probably happen in most companies these days.

Shudder to think of some of the stuff that me and my workmates (male and female) got up to back in the day. Dearie me.

[drfchound]

Glad you made that last statement PDX.

I would hazard a guess that there aren’t many blokes who haven’t put their hands somewhere that they shouldn’t have and got reprimanded or got a slap, at one time or another in their life.

[adamtherover]

It's amazing what firms will put up with, i used to work with a lowlife who took pics of his neighbours young kids whilst semi naked in an outdoor swimming pool in the summer.. from his top bedroom window.  He's on the register, I think he actually did time on remand, got a suspended, and came back after to work as if nothing had happened..

[Lifelong supporter]

   its due process.
   Personally I'm happy for the club to do what they need to do,follow the correct procedure and come to a balanced decision based on the  factual information that they have, which I'm dam sure will be a lot more than a report in the Free Press...

     it's a sad state of affairs regardless of the outcome

Apparently the club had representatives in court and will have heard what the prosecutor, Mason's QC and the judge had to say.
They won't have factual information other than that.
I can understand Mr Mason trying to defend his son but I can't see how taking a photo would leave DNA on the girl's bra.
What I can't understand is eight people liking his remarks - some of whom had already said he should be dismissed!
In the absence of any clause in his contract stating he would be liable to instant dismissal if he was convicted of any sexual offence the club will have to go through all the due processes.
They are probably right not to comment further until a decision has been made and it might be better if SM didn't comment about it on here on their behalf as well.
As he pleaded guilty there can be no prospect of an appeal, other than against his sentence.
In that case I would have a lot more sympathy for young Mr Mason if he had come out with a public statement admitting his shame and apologising for his behaviour, rather than allowing his father to continue to plead his innocence, and beg the girl and the club to forgive him.
I don't envy the club in their deliberations but I think the final outcome is inevitable.       
 

Could you kindly tell me where I'm commenting on their behalf?

Sorry, you said you had been in touch with the club earlier in the day about another matter.
I assumed you would have discussed this as well, especially as you knew there was nothing in his contract to enable them to cancel immediately and that they were having discussions with the PFA. 

[ChrisBx]

Glad you made that last statement PDX.

I would hazard a guess that there aren’t many blokes who haven’t put their hands somewhere that they shouldn’t have and got reprimanded or got a slap, at one time or another in their life.

That's why it's such a big problem - so many people, mainly men, have been sexually inappropriate towards women and society has previously normalised it. Times have changed and people are now accepting that behaviour of this nature is simply unacceptable.

[drfchound]

I didn’t say anything to the contrary did I?

[silent majority]

Lifelong,

You shouldn't make assumptions about me. I didn't say that I knew what was in his contract. But what I do know, in all cases like this, the PFA have a duty to represent their member. Employment law also has to be considered.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Suspended since Tuesday.

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-suspend-niall-mason-after-sexual-assault-conviction-1-9567886

[karlos]

Sad day but well done Doncaster rovers. A decision that is only right.

[NickDRFC]

If he was suspended on Tuesday afternoon why didn't we announce that then, rather than saying on Tuesday night "The club will consider its options"?

Right decision but seems a bit muddled the way it's been announced.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Trying to keep things quiet given this relates to people's lives? Quite fair I'd say.

[IDM]

If he was suspended on Tuesday afternoon why didn't we announce that then, rather than saying on Tuesday night "The club will consider its options"?

Right decision but seems a bit muddled the way it's been announced.

No not at all, perhaps the club had to check on procedures etc before making a further statement..

This is an internal issue for the club.

[NickDRFC]

Perhaps it's just me, just doesn't make sense to me that on Tuesday afternoon he was found guilty, the club seemingly suspended him immediately, then released a statement on Tuesday night saying they were considering their options, then on Thursday released a statement saying that they suspended him on Tuesday. If the reason was that weren't sure or had to check on procedures then surely they would have waited to suspend him?

I'm sure there's a reason for it, just doesn't make sense to me.

[IDM]

No, maybe they had to consider carefully and take advice on what is said publicly..

Remember this is an internal club process, and as much as we as fans want to know what’s happening, we have to respect the club for dealing with it properly..

Speculating on why certain statements were made on certain days makes no difference at all..

[Bristol Red Rover]

...Tuesday afternoon he was found guilty...  suspended him...
Tuesday night... considering their options...
Thursday released a statement saying that they suspended him on Tuesday. ...

What you missed was Thursday released a statement saying they suspended him on Tuesday, AND that they would make a decision as to his future after a hearing next week.

Presumably from Tuesday night to now the club has been considering issues and logistics with regard to that hearing. But who cares, we know what's happening soon enough.

[Pancho Regan]

Maybe we should stop picking over everything the club says, and leave it to them?

[MachoMadness]

While I do think he needs to be sacked as quickly as possible this is a PR nightmare for the club and they've handled it the right way. In sensitive situations like this anything they say will be taken as a negative, so best not say much at all until you know what action you can take and when.

[drfchound]

It seems to me like plenty of people cant wait for the hanging.

[NickDRFC]

It seems to me like plenty of people cant wait for the hanging.

I wouldn't say that, I don't think that I've read much about anyone saying he should have been given a more severe punishment, it's just that people would be uncomfortable with him playing for us now and wouldn't be unhappy to see him sacked.

[drfchound]

It seems to me like plenty of people cant wait for the hanging.

I wouldn't say that, I don't think that I've read much about anyone saying he should have been given a more severe punishment, it's just that people would be uncomfortable with him playing for us now and wouldn't be unhappy to see him sacked.

I was speaking metaphorically.

[DonnyOsmond]

Were the same as a business. If a member of staff is suspended it isn't announced everywhere.

[since-1969]

It seems to me like plenty of people cant wait for the hanging.

I wouldn't say that, I don't think that I've read much about anyone saying he should have been given a more severe punishment, it's just that people would be uncomfortable with him playing for us now and wouldn't be unhappy to see him sacked.

Though I think he was stupid and naive to had been involved in the first instance , his crime though still a crime should be viewed as more along the lines as a drunken fumble and not persucuted as a rapist . I can not see what good it will do by rubbishing his career when he’s been punished by the crown . DRFC are correct to suspend Mason even until the end of the season but it would foolish to abandon him because of this , particularly when the court has set him  free with a 2 years suspension hanging over him. He needs to making an apology to everyone including the plaintiff and ask to be forgiven and be allowed to continue with his career.

[IDM]

He’s not a rapist, so why would he be persecuted as one..

A drunken fumble.? - according to the reports the woman said no so being drunk is no excuse..

There’s only one apology needed and that isn’t to anyone else..