Miners strike

[shaun from thorne]

35 years ago today time flies

[Axholme Lion]

Saw a news report on the tv the other week about Polish miners beefing about what they are going to do now the demand for coal is falling, and how their communities will be decimated etc. It didn't seem to bother them when British mines were being closed and Polish coal sold to Britain.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Saw a news report on the tv the other week about Polish miners beefing about what they are going to do now the demand for coal is falling, and how their communities will be decimated etc. It didn't seem to bother them when British mines were being closed and Polish coal sold to Britain.

It's more disgraceful that it didn't seem to bother our own government either.

[Axholme Lion]

Saw a news report on the tv the other week about Polish miners beefing about what they are going to do now the demand for coal is falling, and how their communities will be decimated etc. It didn't seem to bother them when British mines were being closed and Polish coal sold to Britain.

It's more disgraceful that it didn't seem to bother our own government either.

Very true. A nation should be independent as far as possible for it's energy supplies.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Saw a news report on the tv the other week about Polish miners beefing about what they are going to do now the demand for coal is falling, and how their communities will be decimated etc. It didn't seem to bother them when British mines were being closed and Polish coal sold to Britain.

It's more disgraceful that it didn't seem to bother our own government either.

Very true. A nation should be independent as far as possible for it's energy supplies.

And as we move towards electric cars and we can finally cast off our dependency from (and concomitant obsequiousness to) the oil countries, instead of having our own miners in our own pits digging up our own coal, we'll become just as dependent on importing other fuels to generate the electricity.

[glosterred]

Saw a news report on the tv the other week about Polish miners beefing about what they are going to do now the demand for coal is falling, and how their communities will be decimated etc. It didn't seem to bother them when British mines were being closed and Polish coal sold to Britain.

It's more disgraceful that it didn't seem to bother our own government either.

Very true. A nation should be independent as far as possible for it's energy supplies.

And as we move towards electric cars and we can finally cast off our dependency from (and concomitant obsequiousness to) the oil countries, instead of having our own miners in our own pits digging up our own coal, we'll become just as dependent on importing other fuels to generate the electricity.

We are already dependant on import of electricity as we import in the region of 10% of the electricity used daily


Yesterday #gas generated 31.4% of British electricity followed by wind 30.6%, nuclear 17.0%, imports 10.6%, biomass 4.9%, coal 1.7%, hydro 1.6%, solar 1.3%, storage 0.6%, other 0.2%, national demand 867 GWh *excl. non-renewable distributed generation

From the ESO Control room tweet

[Glyn_Wigley]

Saw a news report on the tv the other week about Polish miners beefing about what they are going to do now the demand for coal is falling, and how their communities will be decimated etc. It didn't seem to bother them when British mines were being closed and Polish coal sold to Britain.

It's more disgraceful that it didn't seem to bother our own government either.

Very true. A nation should be independent as far as possible for it's energy supplies.

And as we move towards electric cars and we can finally cast off our dependency from (and concomitant obsequiousness to) the oil countries, instead of having our own miners in our own pits digging up our own coal, we'll become just as dependent on importing other fuels to generate the electricity.

We are already dependant on import of electricity as we import in the region of 10% of the electricity used daily


Yesterday #gas generated 31.4% of British electricity followed by wind 30.6%, nuclear 17.0%, imports 10.6%, biomass 4.9%, coal 1.7%, hydro 1.6%, solar 1.3%, storage 0.6%, other 0.2%, national demand 867 GWh *excl. non-renewable distributed generation

From the ESO Control room tweet

I bet we import a damn sight more than 10% of the petrol we use daily.

And we can always build more electricity generating plants, along with wind farms and tidal generating if we need to. We can't dig oil wells.

[Axholme Lion]

If they're serious about electric cars surely nuclear is the way to go to supply the potential demand?

[Glyn_Wigley]

If they're serious about electric cars surely nuclear is the way to go to supply the potential demand?

Just as long as they don't build another Sellafield next to your house, eh?

[Geoff Blakesley]

Saw a news report on the tv the other week about Polish miners beefing about what they are going to do now the demand for coal is falling, and how their communities will be decimated etc. It didn't seem to bother them when British mines were being closed and Polish coal sold to Britain.

How sad that you don't know about the Polish miners that came over to work in the Doncaster coalfields during the second world war. My family weren't allowed to sign up as they were all miners and an indispensible part of the war effort.

[Geoff Blakesley]

I recommend this photographic exhibition at Weston Park in Sheffield until April 14 by Martin Jenkinson. He was the official Miners Strike photographer and as well as classic pics of the strike , Armthorpe women supporting miners, Orgreave battle and general South Yorkshire life is well worth a visit - and it's free.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/nov/04/martin-jenkinson-retrospective-to-go-on-show-in-sheffield-who-we-are
also
https://mjimages.pressphotos.co.uk

[Geoff Blakesley]

Saw a news report on the tv the other week about Polish miners beefing about what they are going to do now the demand for coal is falling, and how their communities will be decimated etc. It didn't seem to bother them when British mines were being closed and Polish coal sold to Britain.

It's more disgraceful that it didn't seem to bother our own government either.

Very true. A nation should be independent as far as possible for it's energy supplies.

And as we move towards electric cars and we can finally cast off our dependency from (and concomitant obsequiousness to) the oil countries, instead of having our own miners in our own pits digging up our own coal, we'll become just as dependent on importing other fuels to generate the electricity.

In 10 years time 30% of our energy needs will be met by wind power. Global warming is a real problem which fossil fuel use will only exacerbate.

[Axholme Lion]

If they're serious about electric cars surely nuclear is the way to go to supply the potential demand?

Just as long as they don't build another Sellafield next to your house, eh?

Sellafield was the only employer of any note in West Cumbria for years. I'd rather have a nuclear power station than fracking with it's daily earthquakes.

[wing commander]

If they're serious about electric cars surely nuclear is the way to go to supply the potential demand?

Just as long as they don't build another Sellafield next to your house, eh?

Sellafield was the only employer of any note in West Cumbria for years. I'd rather have a nuclear power station than fracking with it's daily earthquakes.

  I think you might be talking pony there Lion..No evidence to suggest that.!!!

[Axholme Lion]

If they're serious about electric cars surely nuclear is the way to go to supply the potential demand?

Just as long as they don't build another Sellafield next to your house, eh?

Sellafield was the only employer of any note in West Cumbria for years. I'd rather have a nuclear power station than fracking with it's daily earthquakes.

  I think you might be talking pony there Lion..No evidence to suggest that.!!!

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21120-how-fracking-caused-earthquakes-in-the-uk/

Fracking is going to happen in Misson soon. I've enough cracks in my house already before they even start!

[Axholme Lion]

Saw a news report on the tv the other week about Polish miners beefing about what they are going to do now the demand for coal is falling, and how their communities will be decimated etc. It didn't seem to bother them when British mines were being closed and Polish coal sold to Britain.

How sad that you don't know about the Polish miners that came over to work in the Doncaster coalfields during the second world war. My family weren't allowed to sign up as they were all miners and an indispensible part of the war effort.

Fair play to the ones in the war, but i'm more concerned about Britain at this moment in time as we speak.

[Herbert Anchovy]

My great Uncle came down from Scotland after the war to work in the mines. They housed the men in old Nissan huts at Intake. There were blokes from all over the country and beyond working in Donny at the time. The old Red Lion in the market used to be the pub where the Poles would frequent. There used to be quite a lot of trouble between the miners on a Friday night after pay day as they all tended to ‘stick to their own’ and get drunk.

My great Uncle worked in the mines right up until the end of the strike. He didn’t break the strike but he had great sympathy for some of those that did.

[roversdude]

Once went to a debate between Scargill and the head of nuclear power at the time.
Mr Nuclear came out with a gleaming white lab coat on and proceeded to wipe coal all over it stating how dirty it was especially compared to a tiny bit of nuclear fuel he had safely wrapped in plastic.
Scargill then regaled tales of how when he worked at the pit and he had indigestion, that he would chew on a piece of coal - he then offered to eat the coal if the other guy ate the nuclear stuff
One nil to Scargill

[auckleyflyer]

Remember getting Xmas present from the polish mining community! Not all negative