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Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2019, 03:49:29 pmTraitors Why could they possibly have wanted to leave the Labour Party when there it abounds with such generosity of spirit?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on February 18, 2019, 04:00:39 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2019, 03:49:29 pmTraitors Why could they possibly have wanted to leave the Labour Party when there it abounds with such generosity of spirit?Glynn, Are you really so naive? They’ve stuck 2 fingers up at the Labour Party and to the electorate who voted for them on a Labour manifesto. Do they deserve “generosity of spirit”?
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2019, 04:17:00 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on February 18, 2019, 04:00:39 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2019, 03:49:29 pmTraitors Why could they possibly have wanted to leave the Labour Party when there it abounds with such generosity of spirit?Glynn, Are you really so naive? They’ve stuck 2 fingers up at the Labour Party and to the electorate who voted for them on a Labour manifesto. Do they deserve “generosity of spirit”? You'd rather they'd have stayed then, would you?They say they've left Labour exactly because of the sort of behaviour you're displaying. You're doing their justification for them.PS Their constituents voted for them. They've still got them.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on February 18, 2019, 04:23:19 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2019, 04:17:00 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on February 18, 2019, 04:00:39 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2019, 03:49:29 pmTraitors Why could they possibly have wanted to leave the Labour Party when there it abounds with such generosity of spirit?Glynn, Are you really so naive? They’ve stuck 2 fingers up at the Labour Party and to the electorate who voted for them on a Labour manifesto. Do they deserve “generosity of spirit”? You'd rather they'd have stayed then, would you?They say they've left Labour exactly because of the sort of behaviour you're displaying. You're doing their justification for them.PS Their constituents voted for them. They've still got them.You’re totally wrong. I’d have rather they have left the party and called a by election. To just say their constituents voted for them is silly. Constituents vote for them to implement the party manifesto if elected to government.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2019, 04:35:37 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on February 18, 2019, 04:23:19 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2019, 04:17:00 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on February 18, 2019, 04:00:39 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on February 18, 2019, 03:49:29 pmTraitors Why could they possibly have wanted to leave the Labour Party when there it abounds with such generosity of spirit?Glynn, Are you really so naive? They’ve stuck 2 fingers up at the Labour Party and to the electorate who voted for them on a Labour manifesto. Do they deserve “generosity of spirit”? You'd rather they'd have stayed then, would you?They say they've left Labour exactly because of the sort of behaviour you're displaying. You're doing their justification for them.PS Their constituents voted for them. They've still got them.You’re totally wrong. I’d have rather they have left the party and called a by election. To just say their constituents voted for them is silly. Constituents vote for them to implement the party manifesto if elected to government. MPs are elected personally. Their choice of party affiliation is secondary. It's still only very recently that party names were even put on the voting slips. That's how British politics works, I'm afraid. Just because a lot of people don't understand that and think something else doesn't make the something else the truth.What happens when a party changes policy between elections? That would then mean that all their MPs would then not be representing the manifesto they were elected on and therefore 'betraying' their constituents. Presumably you'd expect all of their MPs to have bye-elections and get a new mandate to reflect the change of policy..?For example - if a Labour MP won his seat at the 1983 election on that election's manifesto of unilateral nuclear disarmament that he so passionately believed in that when that policy was ditched under Kinnock he resigned from the party on principle...according to you he should have a bye-election even though he's still maintaining the policy he was elected on and the rest of the Labour MPs who have 'betrayed' their constituents shouldn't have to!
It's a weird one as I have slightly more respect for these seven than the likes of Caroline Flint and Ian Austin who share the same views but haven't left as they know it would be the end of them politically as will be the case for this lot. No socialists were lost from the Labour Party today.
Which of Corbyns policies are so extreme to some people?
Their motives...Get rid of Corbyn,abbot, Mcdonnel and Momentum and get the Labour Party stable and re electable.
McDonnell would be more electable than Corbyn and would still deliver on the manifesto. Abbot, unfortunately, has been attacked so much by the media that people do believe the craziest shit about her. Lies about "she can't count" etc are so petty, but it's the political climate we live in these days; more and more it's about image than what you have done, what you stand for and what your policies are.