Vblog Charlton game Answers the question.

[deebee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HxPIx0Xals
Answers the question was it offside or not?.

[donnievic]

Looking at that the assistant has flagged may for being offside for being in keepers view of the ball which he wasn’t but hard for him to see or thinking he made a movement for the ball which he possibly did

[mjg]

The referee had the better view to who headed the ball and should have overruled the linesman

[RoversAlias]

McCann said it was given against Rowe.

[Filo]

Thats the best view yet of it, proves the lino f**ked up big time

[pib]

The Lino obviously thinks May has got a touch, as he is offside from Rowe's header and makes a movement for the ball. He's wrong like cos May didn't touch it and wasn't interfering otherwise.

[Copps is Magic]

Looking at that the assistant has flagged may for being offside for being in keepers view of the ball which he wasn’t but hard for him to see or thinking he made a movement for the ball which he possibly did

Except ... that makes no sense whatsoever. Rowe is onside, so we're judging whether May as interfered with play after Rowe as touched it. As the below picture clearly shows he's nowhere near the trajectory of the ball. He might as well be stood in our penalty area at the other end of the pitch. The officials have made a god awful mistake.

[Filo]

Interesting that Mcann says on the Radio Sheffield interview that in cases like that they go to see the referree after the game with the analyst and take the laptop to show the ref the clip of the incident, this ref refused to let them in with the laptop, what does that tell you?

[Donnywolf]

That he and his assistants had made a mess of the decision

If he goes to the Lino who had not originally flagged for Offside (against anyone) - and he the Ref had already given the Goal why did the Ref not ask who did you think was offside.

If he says Marquis - Ref says get your eyes tested

If he says Rowe - Ref says he was onside and he touched the ball

If he says May - Ref says maybe BUT I did not think he was distracting the keeper and I gave the goal

If he says I resign - Ref says thank f**k for that and roll on VAR and Goal Line Techno

[eastender]

The Linesman got it wrong , no doubt about it, but i can easily see why he thought May might have got a touch.

The ball flashed across the front of Alfie and he made a movement , in real time and without the luxury of a slow mo replay or a still frame , i can see how the linesman got it wrong.

[donnievic]

The Lino obviously thinks May has got a touch, as he is offside from Rowe's header and makes a movement for the ball. He's wrong like cos May didn't touch it and wasn't interfering otherwise.

just answered your own statement their then if thought may made a movement towards the ball the he did correct putting his flag up

[donnievic]

Looking at that the assistant has flagged may for being offside for being in keepers view of the ball which he wasn’t but hard for him to see or thinking he made a movement for the ball which he possibly did

Except ... that makes no sense whatsoever. Rowe is onside, so we're judging whether May as interfered with play after Rowe as touched it. As the below picture clearly shows he's nowhere near the trajectory of the ball. He might as well be stood in our penalty area at the other end of the pitch. The officials have made a god awful mistake.

what doesn’t make sense???

[donnievic]

Looking at that the assistant has flagged may for being offside for being in keepers view of the ball which he wasn’t but hard for him to see or thinking he made a movement for the ball which he possibly did

Except ... that makes no sense whatsoever. Rowe is onside, so we're judging whether May as interfered with play after Rowe as touched it. As the below picture clearly shows he's nowhere near the trajectory of the ball. He might as well be stood in our penalty area at the other end of the pitch. The officials have made a god awful mistake.

I said if the Lino thought he was in view of the shot which we know he wasn’t but if may makes a movement for the ball which he does whether it’s to try and get a touch or get out of the way then it could be deemed as interfering.people maybe a bit glad he didn’t put it up for Wilks goal then as marquis jumped out of threat of the ball while being in a offside position

[Copps is Magic]

The point is that in that interpretation (let's say that's what the ref has given) Alfie May simply isn't in a position (physically) to interfere with play. Whether he expects the ball to come to him or not is irrelevant. By that definition, every player on the pitch expecting a deflection/rebound is interfering with play. And the referee is in a perfect position to see that Alfie May can't physically interfere.

So there is no conceivable way you can argue for that interpretation. So its a mistake - they've simply got the players mixed up with each other or some other mistake.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

The point is that in that interpretation (let's say that's what the ref has given) Alfie May simply isn't in a position (physically) to interfere with play. Whether he expects the ball to come to him or not is irrelevant. By that definition, every player on the pitch expecting a deflection/rebound is interfering with play. And the referee is in a perfect position to see that Alfie May can't physically interfere.

So there is no conceivable way you can argue for that interpretation. So its a mistake - they've simply got the players mixed up with each other or some other mistake.

In wonderful hindsight, we all know it was a mistake, but the point being made is the understanding of how the linesman got it wrong. If you saw it through his eyes in real time, you would easily think that Alfie was active and might have got the touch.

The nonsense about the delayed decision is a distortion of the truth as the linesman had is flag up in less than 2 seconds.

It's human error, nothing more, but a disappointing one.

[PDX_Rover]

From that still the ref is positioned to see it was Rowe not May.

[BillyStubbsTears]

There's three possibilities.

The linesman has given Rowe offside, in which case it's a shocking error by him.

Or the linesman thinks that May has flicked it in, which would be an understandable mistake  by him, but the ref was in the perfect spot to see that the ball went nowhere near May, so that would be a shocking mistake by the ref.

Or they think May is distracting the defence, which, given the lecture I got following the Palace second goal is a totally incorrect interpretation of a really bad law.

Either way, it's a very bad decision. Be a reight f**ker if we lose out on the play-offs the Charlton by a couple of points.

[drfchound]

BST, as I said elsewhere, the last time we suffered from a dodgy decision in a match against Charlton, it cost us big time.


By the way, is there any chance we can get to see the refs report and get his reason for not allowing the goal.
Someone may know.

[bobjimwilly]

So in summary, the linesman should have just said to the ref, "#19 was in an offside position when he scored" and then the ref should have said, "#10 scored you muppet, #19 was no where near it", and then the linesman would have said, "shit, i should have gone to specsavers. It's a goal then boss."