Let's talk about the Charlton Athletic playoff game

[drfchound]

.......and don’t forget the two great saves that Marosi made.
The one low to his right from Taylor and the one he tipped over the bar.

[Campsall rover]

Yes disappointing score line but as I said pre match a 1 goal deficit is not a disaster. That late goal for us gives us a chance.
It’s game on at the Valley.
How do Charlton approach it stick or twist.
If we get the 1st goal it is going to be very interesting indeed.
Even if we don’t just keep playing our game and you can never tell.
Please GM switch Wilks on to the left every now and again.
Within seconds of him doing that a cross on his natural left foot and guess what a goal is created.
He is so obvious on the right because he comes inside as he will not use his right foot on the outside. Not saying all the time just keep switching 3/4 times during the game to see where he is getting the most joy.
He is our match winner if we can get him to be at his most effective.

[weststander]

 I too was disappointed that we did not rotate Wilkes and Sadlier occasionally. Then when May came on we immediately saw Wilkes on the left and for the second successive game he provided a cross to the far post for a goal. Yes I know the cross v Cov was from the right.

[Wiltshire Exile]

Watching Sky Sports, and get thoroughly peed off when they show the Rovers’ result every 30 seconds.......grrr! 

[steve@dcfd]

I too was disappointed that we did not rotate Wilkes and Sadlier occasionally. Then when May came on we immediately saw Wilkes on the left and for the second successive game he provided a cross to the far post for a goal. Yes I know the cross v Cov was from the right.

Agree with rotation but for me I would rotated Sadlier off the pitch he did nothing going forward and hardly anything defensively but who can we play in his place? Unless teams allow him to cut inside he has noting he may show more on the right side but we don’t know because they never rotate.

[silent majority]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

[sha66y]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

Maybe a tad over zealous with a few of the comments but I wouldn’t imagine everyone who works at football clubs are football fans,

 it’s a paid job at the end of the day, whether it be admin or setting up catering contracts....

[Guernsey Exile]

Nothing much in the game at all despite  SKY bigging Charlton up throughout in my opinion .

A mad two minutes for Rovers in the first half which was very costly but second half I thought you shaded it .

Absolutely huge goal by Blair , immense , changes the dynamics massively .

This tie ain't done by a long shot .

I like you tyke. Your more positive than half the Rovers fans on here. You're balanced and give a fair opinion.

Nice one

[silent majority]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

Maybe a tad over zealous with a few of the comments but I wouldn’t imagine everyone who works at football clubs are football fans,

 it’s a paid job at the end of the day, whether it be admin or setting up catering contracts....

I didn't say football fans. He used the phrase football people, and I'm asking him what that means and who he's applying it to.

I thought it was obvious that we're not talking about the caterers here.

[sha66y]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

Maybe a tad over zealous with a few of the comments but I wouldn’t imagine everyone who works at football clubs are football fans,

 it’s a paid job at the end of the day, whether it be admin or setting up catering contracts....

I didn't say football fans. He used the phrase football people, and I'm asking him what that means and who he's applying it to.

I thought it was obvious that we're not talking about the caterers here.

I’m quite sure you know exactly what he means.....football people = those involved in football and have either played at some level or have a great passion for the game...
Now I don’t profess to know much about our wonderful benefactors , but I was under the impression they came from the construction industry and was shoe horned into financially assisting the club by good old JR ...

and we have been blessed by their collective patience

[Boomstick]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

[pib]

Well I suppose the “non football people” on the board could always pull their funding out, and we’d see where we would end up then. Not in the play-offs I suspect.

Also I’d be very surprised if opening up the East Stand for Charlton fans had anything to do with Terry Bramall or anyone else at the top level of the club. He’s one of the owners of the club and pays staff to sort out the minutiae of operational affairs like that. In fact, I’d say it’s naive bordering on stupid to think that one of the major shareholders of the club would be calling the shots on that.

[silent majority]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

Interesting list of names.

I expected to see JR on your list, despite being from a cosmetic background. Kevin McCabe is from a property background. Karen Brady, seriously?? I couldn't think of many worse than her and the 'dirty book sellers'. And the running of West Ham and the cock-ups at the London Stadium prove that.

On top of that, if you look at people who own football clubs these days, you'll find that 90% don't have any type of football club background.

[vaya]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

So the board face criticism for running a business as a business, and not being on an arbitrary list of people plucked from someone's head.

Sleepless nights ahead for them after this bombshell.

[Donnywolf]

Just need to win 1-0 - a single solitary goal - and it CAN be done

Play out Extra Time and then win on Penalties

Probably unlikely but so was LFC coming back to beat Barca and even moreso Spurs against Ajax

I still think Charlun as they seemed to call themselves will win the 3rd spot but I live in hope AND its been a good Season whatever happens from here on in ! 

[Boomstick]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

Interesting list of names.

I expected to see JR on your list, despite being from a cosmetic background. Kevin McCabe is from a property background. Karen Brady, seriously?? I couldn't think of many worse than her and the 'dirty book sellers'. And the running of West Ham and the cock-ups at the London Stadium prove that.

On top of that, if you look at people who own football clubs these days, you'll find that 90% don't have any type of football club background.

Where did I say they were perfect? In fact I quantified it by saying they weren't.

You also picked out John Ryan and Kevin mcabe. They are Huge football fans and have a HUGE passion for the game. Hell Jr 3ven tried to get on the FA board.
The km lot may be excellent business people, but the impression I get, and others I speak to is that they only begrudgingly run the club and will sell at the first realistic opportunity.
Oh and I didn't say you needed a football club background either. Just a huge passion for the club.

I will also repeat that I think they are doing an OK job, and quite content with it.

Just out of interest, who from the board was there today?

[redarmy82]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

Interesting list of names.

I expected to see JR on your list, despite being from a cosmetic background. Kevin McCabe is from a property background. Karen Brady, seriously?? I couldn't think of many worse than her and the 'dirty book sellers'. And the running of West Ham and the cock-ups at the London Stadium prove that.

On top of that, if you look at people who own football clubs these days, you'll find that 90% don't have any type of football club background.

Where did I say they were perfect? In fact I quantified it by saying they weren't.

You also picked out John Ryan and Kevin mcabe. They are Huge football fans and have a HUGE passion for the game. Hell Jr 3ven tried to get on the FA board.
The km lot may be excellent business people, but the impression I get, and others I speak to is that they only begrudgingly run the club and will sell at the first realistic opportunity.
Oh and I didn't say you needed a football club background either. Just a huge passion for the club.

I will also repeat that I think they are doing an OK job, and quite content with it.

Just out of interest, who from the board was there today?

If they wanted to sell, they'd sell. If they weren't really arsed, the wouldn't be chucking 2.5 million at it every year.

[drfchound]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

Interesting list of names.

I expected to see JR on your list, despite being from a cosmetic background. Kevin McCabe is from a property background. Karen Brady, seriously?? I couldn't think of many worse than her and the 'dirty book sellers'. And the running of West Ham and the cock-ups at the London Stadium prove that.

On top of that, if you look at people who own football clubs these days, you'll find that 90% don't have any type of football club background.

Where did I say they were perfect? In fact I quantified it by saying they weren't.

You also picked out John Ryan and Kevin mcabe. They are Huge football fans and have a HUGE passion for the game. Hell Jr 3ven tried to get on the FA board.
The km lot may be excellent business people, but the impression I get, and others I speak to is that they only begrudgingly run the club and will sell at the first realistic opportunity.
Oh and I didn't say you needed a football club background either. Just a huge passion for the club.

I will also repeat that I think they are doing an OK job, and quite content with it.

Just out of interest, who from the board was there today?

Good grief, still banging on about the attendance. 

[Boomstick]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

Interesting list of names.

I expected to see JR on your list, despite being from a cosmetic background. Kevin McCabe is from a property background. Karen Brady, seriously?? I couldn't think of many worse than her and the 'dirty book sellers'. And the running of West Ham and the cock-ups at the London Stadium prove that.

On top of that, if you look at people who own football clubs these days, you'll find that 90% don't have any type of football club background.

Where did I say they were perfect? In fact I quantified it by saying they weren't.

You also picked out John Ryan and Kevin mcabe. They are Huge football fans and have a HUGE passion for the game. Hell Jr 3ven tried to get on the FA board.
The km lot may be excellent business people, but the impression I get, and others I speak to is that they only begrudgingly run the club and will sell at the first realistic opportunity.
Oh and I didn't say you needed a football club background either. Just a huge passion for the club.

I will also repeat that I think they are doing an OK job, and quite content with it.

Just out of interest, who from the board was there today?

Good grief, still banging on about the attendance. 

😉 To be fair I was an advocate of having a smaller attendance today

[drfchound]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

Interesting list of names.

I expected to see JR on your list, despite being from a cosmetic background. Kevin McCabe is from a property background. Karen Brady, seriously?? I couldn't think of many worse than her and the 'dirty book sellers'. And the running of West Ham and the cock-ups at the London Stadium prove that.

On top of that, if you look at people who own football clubs these days, you'll find that 90% don't have any type of football club background.

Where did I say they were perfect? In fact I quantified it by saying they weren't.

You also picked out John Ryan and Kevin mcabe. They are Huge football fans and have a HUGE passion for the game. Hell Jr 3ven tried to get on the FA board.
The km lot may be excellent business people, but the impression I get, and others I speak to is that they only begrudgingly run the club and will sell at the first realistic opportunity.
Oh and I didn't say you needed a football club background either. Just a huge passion for the club.

I will also repeat that I think they are doing an OK job, and quite content with it.

Just out of interest, who from the board was there today?

Good grief, still banging on about the attendance. 

😉 To be fair I was an advocate of having a smaller attendance today

I know, but you did see the winkie I hope.

[Boomstick]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

Interesting list of names.

I expected to see JR on your list, despite being from a cosmetic background. Kevin McCabe is from a property background. Karen Brady, seriously?? I couldn't think of many worse than her and the 'dirty book sellers'. And the running of West Ham and the cock-ups at the London Stadium prove that.

On top of that, if you look at people who own football clubs these days, you'll find that 90% don't have any type of football club background.

Where did I say they were perfect? In fact I quantified it by saying they weren't.

You also picked out John Ryan and Kevin mcabe. They are Huge football fans and have a HUGE passion for the game. Hell Jr 3ven tried to get on the FA board.
The km lot may be excellent business people, but the impression I get, and others I speak to is that they only begrudgingly run the club and will sell at the first realistic opportunity.
Oh and I didn't say you needed a football club background either. Just a huge passion for the club.

I will also repeat that I think they are doing an OK job, and quite content with it.

Just out of interest, who from the board was there today?

Good grief, still banging on about the attendance. 

😉 To be fair I was an advocate of having a smaller attendance today

I know, but you did see the winkie I hope.

Yeah I did 😉

[Boomstick]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

Interesting list of names.

I expected to see JR on your list, despite being from a cosmetic background. Kevin McCabe is from a property background. Karen Brady, seriously?? I couldn't think of many worse than her and the 'dirty book sellers'. And the running of West Ham and the cock-ups at the London Stadium prove that.

On top of that, if you look at people who own football clubs these days, you'll find that 90% don't have any type of football club background.

Where did I say they were perfect? In fact I quantified it by saying they weren't.

You also picked out John Ryan and Kevin mcabe. They are Huge football fans and have a HUGE passion for the game. Hell Jr 3ven tried to get on the FA board.
The km lot may be excellent business people, but the impression I get, and others I speak to is that they only begrudgingly run the club and will sell at the first realistic opportunity.
Oh and I didn't say you needed a football club background either. Just a huge passion for the club.

I will also repeat that I think they are doing an OK job, and quite content with it.

Just out of interest, who from the board was there today?

If they wanted to sell, they'd sell. If they weren't really arsed, the wouldn't be chucking 2.5 million at it every year.

I said realistically sell, they rightly won't sell to just anyone.
There's not a huge list of people wanting to buy rovers.

I'll repeat, I think they are doing a decent job, but no ones immune from criticism.

It's probably time we returned to matters on the pitch now.

[silent majority]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

Interesting list of names.

I expected to see JR on your list, despite being from a cosmetic background. Kevin McCabe is from a property background. Karen Brady, seriously?? I couldn't think of many worse than her and the 'dirty book sellers'. And the running of West Ham and the cock-ups at the London Stadium prove that.

On top of that, if you look at people who own football clubs these days, you'll find that 90% don't have any type of football club background.

Where did I say they were perfect? In fact I quantified it by saying they weren't.

You also picked out John Ryan and Kevin mcabe. They are Huge football fans and have a HUGE passion for the game. Hell Jr 3ven tried to get on the FA board.
The km lot may be excellent business people, but the impression I get, and others I speak to is that they only begrudgingly run the club and will sell at the first realistic opportunity.
Oh and I didn't say you needed a football club background either. Just a huge passion for the club.

I will also repeat that I think they are doing an OK job, and quite content with it.

Just out of interest, who from the board was there today?

Your points now seem all over the place. You talk of football people, but that doesn't mean from a football club background??

So, where did I say or imply that you used the word perfect?

I picked out more than JR and Kev McCabe. I also picked out, from your list, Karen Brady, but I could also pick out Pete Winkleman who again has a property background and won't be forgiven for the part he played in the Wimbledon/MK Dons saga. You mention Bobby Charlton, who doesn't own or run a football club to my knowledge. Your list doesn't have any merit at all when supporting your argument.

And another correction, JR didn't try to get elected to the FA Board.

But the major correction you need is on this begrudging ownership of the club. Where the hell do you get that information from? It's nothing short of ill foundered bullshit.

As for today, I couldn't give you the whole list because I sit in a different part of the ground, but as owners I saw the whole of the Watson family before kick-off. And your point is what?

[Boomstick]

Decent game, they clearly are a better team though. Gonna need all the luck in the world next Friday.
Very poor attendance from the home fans.
Clearly the wrong decision to give Charlton extra tickets, their fans gave them a huge huge boost. Very very naive from the club. (they aren't football people)
Blair not good enough I'm afraid.
Were missing Mason, should never have let him go.
Could have been alot worse.

Boomstick, I'm intrigued, what's your definition of a 'football person'?

So, people who own a football club, and have done for a number of years now, or people who are employed by a football club are not football people?

That's some strange logic.

John Ryan, dave wheelan, Kevin mcabe, Daniel levy, Ken bates, Karen Brady, Bobby Charlton, Kenny Dalglish, Pete winkleman....
I'm not saying anyone of them are perfect, but they are football people and understand running a football club is a bit different than a normal business.

I'm not saying either that our board are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a decent one on the whole, and run it strictly as a business. Which is their mindset, and I'm not faulting. But the impression I get (and that's all it is) they can be a bit naive.

Would I swap them? No I think the club is in safe hands, but also they are not immune from criticism where I feel it's fair.

Interesting list of names.

I expected to see JR on your list, despite being from a cosmetic background. Kevin McCabe is from a property background. Karen Brady, seriously?? I couldn't think of many worse than her and the 'dirty book sellers'. And the running of West Ham and the cock-ups at the London Stadium prove that.

On top of that, if you look at people who own football clubs these days, you'll find that 90% don't have any type of football club background.

Where did I say they were perfect? In fact I quantified it by saying they weren't.

You also picked out John Ryan and Kevin mcabe. They are Huge football fans and have a HUGE passion for the game. Hell Jr 3ven tried to get on the FA board.
The km lot may be excellent business people, but the impression I get, and others I speak to is that they only begrudgingly run the club and will sell at the first realistic opportunity.
Oh and I didn't say you needed a football club background either. Just a huge passion for the club.

I will also repeat that I think they are doing an OK job, and quite content with it.

Just out of interest, who from the board was there today?

Your points now seem all over the place. You talk of football people, but that doesn't mean from a football club background??

So, where did I say or imply that you used the word perfect?

I picked out more than JR and Kev McCabe. I also picked out, from your list, Karen Brady, but I could also pick out Pete Winkleman who again has a property background and won't be forgiven for the part he played in the Wimbledon/MK Dons saga. You mention Bobby Charlton, who doesn't own or run a football club to my knowledge. Your list doesn't have any merit at all when supporting your argument.

And another correction, JR didn't try to get elected to the FA Board.

But the major correction you need is on this begrudging ownership of the club. Where the hell do you get that information from? It's nothing short of ill foundered bullshit.

As for today, I couldn't give you the whole list because I sit in a different part of the ground, but as owners I saw the whole of the Watson family before kick-off. And your point is what?

I think your misinterpreting my posts, I don't want to get into an argument, so I'll not repeat. It might be better if you re read my posts.
As for Jr, it could have been the efl board, but I Definately remember an interview from him explaining he got rebuffed because he wasn't at a glamour club.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Just need to win 1-0 - a single solitary goal - and it CAN be done

Play out Extra Time and then win on Penalties

Please not that! Winning on pens is like surviving ten or more heart attacks - relief at the result but hardly joy.

[Donnywolf]

Yes Pens is not a good experience - I turned off Chelseas game the other night rather than watch.

It's not even an ideal way to settle a game which is deadlocked either but nobody has proposed anything better yet - and when they do it will probably take years to catch on

[Donnywolf]

Nothing much in the game at all despite  SKY bigging Charlton up throughout in my opinion .

A mad two minutes for Rovers in the first half which was very costly but second half I thought you shaded it .

Absolutely huge goal by Blair , immense , changes the dynamics massively .

This tie ain't done by a long shot .

I like you tyke. Your more positive than half the Rovers fans on here. You're balanced and give a fair opinion.

Nice one

Good point - I wonder if we can sign him up ?

His Contract may be up soon - so we should be looking at getting him - cash deal or more preferably an exchange deal ?