Tory Leader - Who's your preference?

[Bentley Bullet]

Grown-up politics at its best.

Irony overload!

Ain't it just!

[BillyStubbsTears]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DxmCtGKwgJ2k&ved=2ahUKEwjxnev05pvjAhVOXRUIHQ5WDO0QwqsBMAB6BAgEEAU&usg=AOvVaw1y69lWVKg9co4weA18Jkld


So, it looks like the choice for PM is between a man who has trouble controlling his bell. Or Jeremy Hunt.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Just cottoned on to Johnson's thing about the sugar tax.

Brexit backer, Lord Ashcroft is heavily involved in the business of sugar growing. In Belize.

Leave.EU organiser Andy Wigmore is a Belize diplomat.

Belize sugar currently has tariffs imposed on it by the EU.

Fill in the blanks yourselves...

EDIT.

As ever, the tireless Carole Cadwalladr is 10 steps ahead.

 https://mobile.twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1146543660110102529

Welcome to Borisland folks.

[wilts rover]

Isn't Lynton Crosby (the bloke running Boris' campaign) also a lobbist for the tobacco industry? Hmmm

https://www.tobaccotactics.org/index.php/Lynton_Crosby
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/06/lynton-crosby-lobbied-for-tobacco-giant-philip-morris
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-23394471/lynton-crosby-didn-t-intervene-on-tobacco-packaging-decision

[selby]

 It is coming to something when the Tories are the worst off they have been for years, and in today's latest poll the Labour party are running fourth according to a programme on talk radio.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I couldn't agree more Selby.

Still, I'm sure Corbyn knows what he is doing.

Len McCluskey obviously does. He was telling everyone not to panic at the weekend. Because Labour averaging 22% in the 16 national polls that have taken place since the EU elections is no cause for concern apparently.

I've long wondered whether some ostensibly left-wing trades union leaders were actually right-wing plants. Hugh Scanlon and Moss Evans (following Jack Jones) could not have done more to secure the ascent of Thatcher than they did by orchestrating the Winter of Discontent. Now we've got McCluskey doing his damnedest to destroy Labour as an electoral force.

It makes you wonder...

[wilts rover]

Interesting Billy, what was it McCluskey said that you disagreed with?

He did for instance say, four times I think, that Labour now backed a referendum on any deal and no-deal would be disastrous.

[wilts rover]

The party running the country can't even run it's own leadership election legally!

Tory Party members receiving more than one ballot paper.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48890803

[Glyn_Wigley]

Interesting Billy, what was it McCluskey said that you disagreed with?

He did for instance say, four times I think, that Labour now backed a referendum on any deal and no-deal would be disastrous.

Who's leading Labour...Corbyn or McCluskey?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Wilts.

Maybe you should go and ask John McDonnell and Emily Thornberry and Dianne Abbott what the problem is with McCluskey's take. They have all publicly commented recently on Labour's policy on Brecit not working. There was a blood on the carpet Shadow Cabinet meeting the week before last on this topic. Corbyn's response was that he had to change policy slowly if he was going to take "The Movement" with him.

You can play clever, clever all you want, dressing up McCluskey's stance. But the truth is that his control over Corbyn is throttling the life out of Labour as an electoral force. And that is going to smack you, me and everyone on the Left in the face when Farage calls off the attack dogs when Johnson is elected PM and the Tories go back up to 35%. I've asked you times many and got no reply.

What does Labour do to counter that?

Explain it. Simply and clearly.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well doesn't this just about sum up the f**king catastrophe that is the Tory Party.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48934781

An ex-Tory PM telling the next Tory PM he wi take him to court to block his key policy.

Just get them out. They are a busted flush.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Ambasdador to USA does his job

Someone in Govt leaks it to a propagandist who is tied up with the far-Right..

Ambassador forced to resign.

Welcome to UK 2019

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48937120

[MachoMadness]

Embarrassing. And worrying. If one of the nation's top diplomats can't do his job because the manchild in the WH might throw a tantrum about it, that's a very dangerous precedent.

[BillyStubbsTears]

It's pretty obvious that he's had a hatchet job done on him so that Johnson can put someone in post who is more on board with the project.

[Glyn_Wigley]

It's pretty obvious that he's had a hatchet job done on him so that Johnson can put someone in post who is more on board with the project.

Perhaps he'll take Trump's advice and appoint Farage to try and strangle the Brexit Party at birth

[BillyStubbsTears]

I don't think there's any doubt that he's going to try to move into Farage territory. The question is whether he does that in a friendly or a confrontational way. Does he try to marginalise Farage or absorb him into the Tory party?

[wilts rover]

I don't think there's any doubt that he's going to try to move into Farage territory. The question is whether he does that in a friendly or a confrontational way. Does he try to marginalise Farage or absorb him into the Tory party?

I wonder if the interview on the resignation of Darroch he gave today might hold any clues for that? Not what he said but where he was and who he was with at the time he gave it. In a Wetherspoons with Tim Martin...

[Filo]

Ambasdador to USA does his job

Someone in Govt leaks it to a propagandist who is tied up with the far-Right..

Ambassador forced to resign.

Welcome to UK 2019

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48937120

Thrown under the bus by Boris, he should have told Trump to get f**ked and mind hisown affairs not ours

[BillyStubbsTears]

Filo. You know there's less than zero chance of Johnson doing that.

Welcome to Brexit Britain.

Bullied by America
Bullied by China
Bullied by Russia.

This is what happens when you overestimate your own importance and decide to give the rods to an organisation that is a genuine counterweight to those three powers.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

It's a bizarre situation.

Did the guy do anything wrong?  No.
Should he have resigned?  Only on his terms.
Should Johnson have backed him?  Absolutely he should, he now appears weak.
Is it important to have someone who can work with Trump et al in that post?  Probably.
Is Johnson right that those who leaked this should be held to account?  Yes.
Could the leak have been a foreign entity?  BST will say so, but quite possibly.

[BillyStubbsTears]

BFYP

If the leak was by a foreign agent, that's even more disturbing. Since it was leaked to Isabel Oakeshott, who is THE leading propagandist for the hard right.

That would be yet more evidence that the rabid Right were prepared to destabilise our systems of government for their (and other nations') political aims.

[SydneyRover]

It's a bizarre situation.

Did the guy do anything wrong?  No.
Should he have resigned?  Only on his terms.
Should Johnson have backed him?  Absolutely he should, he now appears weak.
Is it important to have someone who can work with Trump et al in that post?  Probably.
Is Johnson right that those who leaked this should be held to account?  Yes.
Could the leak have been a foreign entity?  BST will say so, but quite possibly.

I struggle to see why anyone would vote for this fawning sycophant but when you see the sugar coated spin that they are given to read about their hero you can sort of understand it

''Tory leadership latest: Boris Johnson sees Trump as a 'lifeboat' to rescue Brexit and secure 'great deal'''

paywall

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/07/11/tory-leadership-boris-johnson-sees-trump-lifeboat-rescue-brexit/

[BillyStubbsTears]

Welcome to your new PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49030873

f**k me, what an embarrassment we're making of ourselves. Anyone who even THINKS about supporting this t**t...

[BillyStubbsTears]

They say you get the politicians you deserve.

Must be some right f**king bell ends in this country then.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisChilton64/status/1151759606139543554

[tommy toes]

That's must've been what Boris and his girlfriend were arguing about.
She'd been speaking to the choc exec and feared their weekly Jaggeresque Mars Bar antics were in jeopardy ....allegedly.

[SydneyRover]

So it looks like when blowjob gets the title he will be managed by legislation until he xxxxs up big time and then will be removed by a confidence motion. tick tick tick tick boom.

[Glyn_Wigley]

So it looks like when blowjob gets the title he will be managed by legislation until he xxxxs up big time and then will be removed by a confidence motion. tick tick tick tick boom.

He can take the public for mugs, but his Parliamentary colleagues actually know the real him.

[SydneyRover]

The tories, well some of them do have principles after all.

''Philip Hammond to quit government if Boris Johnson becomes PM

Chancellor joins David Gauke in saying he could not work for leader seeking a no-deal Brexit''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/21/david-gauke-to-quit-government-if-boris-johnson-becomes-pm

[scawsby steve]

The tories, well some of them do have principles after all.

''Philip Hammond to quit government if Boris Johnson becomes PM

Chancellor joins David Gauke in saying he could not work for leader seeking a no-deal Brexit''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/21/david-gauke-to-quit-government-if-boris-johnson-becomes-pm

Principles? Ok, so why haven't all the shadow cabinet resigned over anti-semitism in the Labour Party?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Perhaps because, when you look into the detail, it's not actually that big a deal?