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Quote from: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 12:06:02 pmQuote from: keith79 on June 19, 2019, 10:36:46 amQuote from: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 09:29:48 amQuote from: the vicar on June 19, 2019, 09:09:42 amQuote from: keith79 on June 17, 2019, 10:16:55 pmAnyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wagesNo because they could be spending well above their means to get there playersWell said Dave. I didn't realise this was a competition to see who could spend more money on an average left back. he was not average last season, and of he was average why did we offer him a contract in the first place. He was very poor at the beginning of the season. He improved as the season went on and finished better than he started. That makes him average over the length of the season. We offered him a contract based on him being an improving left back, which is why we gave him an improved contract.But your point, that we can't compete with Fleetwood on wages, is just poppycock, based on nothing other than we cancelled negotiations with a player because he prevaricated for far too long.And maybe also that Morris has signed for them over us?
Quote from: keith79 on June 19, 2019, 10:36:46 amQuote from: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 09:29:48 amQuote from: the vicar on June 19, 2019, 09:09:42 amQuote from: keith79 on June 17, 2019, 10:16:55 pmAnyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wagesNo because they could be spending well above their means to get there playersWell said Dave. I didn't realise this was a competition to see who could spend more money on an average left back. he was not average last season, and of he was average why did we offer him a contract in the first place. He was very poor at the beginning of the season. He improved as the season went on and finished better than he started. That makes him average over the length of the season. We offered him a contract based on him being an improving left back, which is why we gave him an improved contract.But your point, that we can't compete with Fleetwood on wages, is just poppycock, based on nothing other than we cancelled negotiations with a player because he prevaricated for far too long.
Quote from: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 09:29:48 amQuote from: the vicar on June 19, 2019, 09:09:42 amQuote from: keith79 on June 17, 2019, 10:16:55 pmAnyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wagesNo because they could be spending well above their means to get there playersWell said Dave. I didn't realise this was a competition to see who could spend more money on an average left back. he was not average last season, and of he was average why did we offer him a contract in the first place.
Quote from: the vicar on June 19, 2019, 09:09:42 amQuote from: keith79 on June 17, 2019, 10:16:55 pmAnyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wagesNo because they could be spending well above their means to get there playersWell said Dave. I didn't realise this was a competition to see who could spend more money on an average left back.
Quote from: keith79 on June 17, 2019, 10:16:55 pmAnyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wagesNo because they could be spending well above their means to get there players
Anyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wages
Quote from: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 04:05:45 pmQuote from: the vicar on June 19, 2019, 04:02:02 pmHe dint try to sell us to a hedge fund, he was bringing them in has financial support No, no, no, Dave. So wrong!he dint own the club to try and sell it but people just forget what he did for the people of Doncaster and only remember that he was saying he was seeking legal advice on some slandering him and I don't blame him
Quote from: the vicar on June 19, 2019, 04:02:02 pmHe dint try to sell us to a hedge fund, he was bringing them in has financial support No, no, no, Dave. So wrong!
He dint try to sell us to a hedge fund, he was bringing them in has financial support
As I saib there was things said on both sides that was not good. I know all on the vsc don't like Jr but in fairness he did save the club and gave us all a lot of great times and that should never be forgotten do you agree Martin
And who brought them in Martin another good foresight by him. But I have no complaints about the board now, I did have when two of them said to me and 5 others that they wanted to be in league 2 where we could be sustainable and that is fact, but now they are doing a good job for me
Quote from: NickDRFC on June 18, 2019, 08:42:40 amSilent majority - I’ve read the accounts, both for Rovers & Club Doncaster, and cant see anywhere that mentions commercial revenue being higher than ST revenue. Can you please provide a link if I’m missing something?If you've read the accounts Nick then you should be able to see it, it's quite clearly there. It's a subject we've discussed often with the club, and certainly at Supporter Board meetings where the financials have been disclosed to the board. Our income mirrors in many ways the incomes at EPL clubs, where the main income is made up of 3 parts, broadcast income, gate receipts and commercial income. These 3 are similar percentages. When the VSC has done its analysis of each years accounts we've always commented on the performance of the commercial team at the club. The solidarity payments, from the EPL and EFL are also higher than gate receipts, which show how worried most clubs of our size should be if, God forbid, that income dried up through something like the creation of a European Super League, for example.
Silent majority - I’ve read the accounts, both for Rovers & Club Doncaster, and cant see anywhere that mentions commercial revenue being higher than ST revenue. Can you please provide a link if I’m missing something?
Quote from: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 06:20:52 pmQuote from: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 12:06:02 pmQuote from: keith79 on June 19, 2019, 10:36:46 amQuote from: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 09:29:48 amQuote from: the vicar on June 19, 2019, 09:09:42 amQuote from: keith79 on June 17, 2019, 10:16:55 pmAnyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wagesNo because they could be spending well above their means to get there playersWell said Dave. I didn't realise this was a competition to see who could spend more money on an average left back. he was not average last season, and of he was average why did we offer him a contract in the first place. He was very poor at the beginning of the season. He improved as the season went on and finished better than he started. That makes him average over the length of the season. We offered him a contract based on him being an improving left back, which is why we gave him an improved contract.But your point, that we can't compete with Fleetwood on wages, is just poppycock, based on nothing other than we cancelled negotiations with a player because he prevaricated for far too long.And maybe also that Morris has signed for them over us?And Charlton and Portsmouth, if you believe the reports linking us with him. Does that mean Charlton and Portsmouth can't compete with Fleetwood on wages too?
Quote from: pib on June 19, 2019, 06:30:33 pmQuote from: dickos1 on June 19, 2019, 06:20:52 pmQuote from: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 12:06:02 pmQuote from: keith79 on June 19, 2019, 10:36:46 amQuote from: silent majority on June 19, 2019, 09:29:48 amQuote from: the vicar on June 19, 2019, 09:09:42 amQuote from: keith79 on June 17, 2019, 10:16:55 pmAnyone else worried that we can not compete with Fleetwood regarding wagesNo because they could be spending well above their means to get there playersWell said Dave. I didn't realise this was a competition to see who could spend more money on an average left back. he was not average last season, and of he was average why did we offer him a contract in the first place. He was very poor at the beginning of the season. He improved as the season went on and finished better than he started. That makes him average over the length of the season. We offered him a contract based on him being an improving left back, which is why we gave him an improved contract.But your point, that we can't compete with Fleetwood on wages, is just poppycock, based on nothing other than we cancelled negotiations with a player because he prevaricated for far too long.And maybe also that Morris has signed for them over us?And Charlton and Portsmouth, if you believe the reports linking us with him. Does that mean Charlton and Portsmouth can't compete with Fleetwood on wages too?I never disputed that, I was just responding to it being said that the “only” reason people may think Fleetwood are spending bigger than us would be the Andrew scenario. I was just pointing out another reason people may come to that conclusion, the fact they also beat off Pompey emphasises it even more so
Quote from: silent majority on June 18, 2019, 11:18:30 pmQuote from: NickDRFC on June 18, 2019, 08:42:40 amSilent majority - I’ve read the accounts, both for Rovers & Club Doncaster, and cant see anywhere that mentions commercial revenue being higher than ST revenue. Can you please provide a link if I’m missing something?If you've read the accounts Nick then you should be able to see it, it's quite clearly there. It's a subject we've discussed often with the club, and certainly at Supporter Board meetings where the financials have been disclosed to the board. Our income mirrors in many ways the incomes at EPL clubs, where the main income is made up of 3 parts, broadcast income, gate receipts and commercial income. These 3 are similar percentages. When the VSC has done its analysis of each years accounts we've always commented on the performance of the commercial team at the club. The solidarity payments, from the EPL and EFL are also higher than gate receipts, which show how worried most clubs of our size should be if, God forbid, that income dried up through something like the creation of a European Super League, for example.Hi SM, sorry for such a slow response on here - I've been on holiday and not had a chance to reply fully. Given that we haven't had an income statement since the financial year ending June 2015 as the accounts are now published as a small company (link I'm looking at below), I'm not quite sure what you're seeing that I'm not - there's no turnover let alone any segmental information. Ditto no revenue information in the Club Doncaster accounts.Doncaster Rovers Limited (Patienceform) accounts: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03739676/filing-historyClub Doncaster Limited accounts: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08699464/filing-history