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Campsall rover

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Re: Cricket or Tennis?
« Reply #60 on July 14, 2019, 01:41:13 pm by Campsall rover »
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Cricket is our no 1 Summer Sport.
Rugby is our 2nd Winter Sport.

not rugby league it's not Campsall
I put Rugby. Didn’t say which code because it’s obviously Union.



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« Reply #61 on July 14, 2019, 01:43:45 pm by rich1471 »
Cricket from the comfort of my Caravan at Pentewen Sands Cornwall 🌞🌞🌞🌞
nice pub across the road called the ship does cracking food and loads of cask ales as well   

RoversAlias

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« Reply #62 on July 14, 2019, 01:52:22 pm by RoversAlias »
Professional tennis players have to be unbelievably fit, and they have to combine it with nuanced skill to be successful. No doubt elite cyclists and long distance runners have to put more in physically, but do they need to apply anywhere near the same level of skill? It's just running or cycling forwards really, isn't it?

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« Reply #63 on July 14, 2019, 01:55:14 pm by Filo »
Cricket from the comfort of my Caravan at Pentewen Sands Cornwall 🌞🌞🌞🌞
nice pub across the road called the ship does cracking food and loads of cask ales as well   

Shall be having a wander over at some point

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« Reply #64 on July 14, 2019, 02:24:02 pm by RedJ »
Professional tennis players have to be unbelievably fit, and they have to combine it with nuanced skill to be successful. No doubt elite cyclists and long distance runners have to put more in physically, but do they need to apply anywhere near the same level of skill? It's just running or cycling forwards really, isn't it?

You do realise there's unbelievable amounts of mental strength required for both too.

Boomstick

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« Reply #65 on July 14, 2019, 02:53:54 pm by Boomstick »
Loving the tennis so far. Great first set.

redarmy82

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« Reply #66 on July 14, 2019, 02:57:55 pm by redarmy82 »
Loving the tennis so far. Great first set.

Can't separate them at the minute. Federer is mixing has game up brilliantly though.

Boomstick

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« Reply #67 on July 14, 2019, 03:03:12 pm by Boomstick »
Loving the tennis so far. Great first set.

Can't separate them at the minute. Federer is mixing has game up brilliantly though.
Some of those shots are sublime

RoversAlias

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« Reply #68 on July 14, 2019, 03:06:48 pm by RoversAlias »
Professional tennis players have to be unbelievably fit, and they have to combine it with nuanced skill to be successful. No doubt elite cyclists and long distance runners have to put more in physically, but do they need to apply anywhere near the same level of skill? It's just running or cycling forwards really, isn't it?

You do realise there's unbelievable amounts of mental strength required for both too.

Of course I do, but that's a different thing from skill.

I watch pro cycling too, and I enjoy the big athletics tournaments so I'm not disparaging either of those sports, I just think tennis players are the more impressive sporting athletes for the reasons I outlined in prior posts.

As I also said, I enjoy most sports. Even ones I don't watch much like golf or cricket I still take a passing interest in and keep up with the results.

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« Reply #69 on July 14, 2019, 03:11:57 pm by mushRTID »
Tennis with the best players at their best is breathtaking, it really is.

I keep saying I want to go Wimbledon, maybe next year.

Campsall rover

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« Reply #70 on July 14, 2019, 03:15:39 pm by Campsall rover »
242 to win for England.  Happy with that.
Roy nearly out LBW first ball.  Very lucky on review. Phew.

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« Reply #71 on July 14, 2019, 03:35:03 pm by NickDRFC »
Professional tennis players have to be unbelievably fit, and they have to combine it with nuanced skill to be successful. No doubt elite cyclists and long distance runners have to put more in physically, but do they need to apply anywhere near the same level of skill? It's just running or cycling forwards really, isn't it?

You do realise there's unbelievable amounts of mental strength required for both too.

Of course I do, but that's a different thing from skill.

I watch pro cycling too, and I enjoy the big athletics tournaments so I'm not disparaging either of those sports, I just think tennis players are the more impressive sporting athletes for the reasons I outlined in prior posts.

As I also said, I enjoy most sports. Even ones I don't watch much like golf or cricket I still take a passing interest in and keep up with the results.

I don't think you'd find many, if any, people who would argue that cyclists or runners are more skilled than tennis players.

redarmy82

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« Reply #72 on July 14, 2019, 05:01:10 pm by redarmy82 »
Anyone who says tennis is crap clearly isn't all there.

This is brilliant stuff.

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« Reply #73 on July 14, 2019, 05:12:03 pm by Bollinger »
Professional tennis players have to be unbelievably fit, and they have to combine it with nuanced skill to be successful. No doubt elite cyclists and long distance runners have to put more in physically, but do they need to apply anywhere near the same level of skill? It's just running or cycling forwards really, isn't it?

You do realise there's unbelievable amounts of mental strength required for both too.

Of course I do, but that's a different thing from skill.

I watch pro cycling too, and I enjoy the big athletics tournaments so I'm not disparaging either of those sports, I just think tennis players are the more impressive sporting athletes for the reasons I outlined in prior posts.

As I also said, I enjoy most sports. Even ones I don't watch much like golf or cricket I still take a passing interest in and keep up with the results.

I don't think you'd find many, if any, people who would argue that cyclists or runners are more skilled than tennis players.


Nope. Have raced bikes for 40 odd years. There is judgement, a lot of tactical nous, a certain amount of team work, bike handling and mental fortitude but you're right, its 99% an athletic endeavour. You wouldn't get much of an argument from any racer.

RoversAlias

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« Reply #74 on July 14, 2019, 07:40:36 pm by RoversAlias »
Think we can shake hands on a dead heat after today, can't we? Both brilliant sports on this day.

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« Reply #75 on July 14, 2019, 08:12:39 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I understand people finding cricket boring. You have to get beyond superficial appearance to comprehend what it entails.

It requires a marvellous combination of control, aggression, strategy, skill, concentration and raw courage. I can't think of any other sport that combines the mental and physical aspects to the extent that cricket does.

And anyone who scoffs at the "physical" aspect has obviously never had a 5oz piece of hard leather whistle past their nose at 75mph which I have, nevermind the regular 90-95mph that the top players deal with regularly.

I used to play at a decent level (old South Riding League) and was a reasonably competent batsman. But I once faced a 95mph delivery from a bowling machine and I couldn't even focus on the ball, let alone make a rational choice of shot.

My uncle Mick Prendergast played 200 games as centre forward for Sheffield Weds and Barnsley in the 70s. He was absolutely fearless. Renown for putting his head where others wouldn't put their foot.

He was mates with Alan Ward who was a fast bowler for Derbyshire and England. Mick once told me he went to the cricket nets with Alan and faced a few deliveries from him. Even though Mick was a high level professional sportsman, he also said he couldn't focus on the ball. And he said it was terrifying having the ball whistle past him, even though Alan was deliberately bowling not at his body.

I have nothing but awe-filled respect for top level batsmen.

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« Reply #76 on July 14, 2019, 09:22:33 pm by drfchound »
Cricket is pointless, barely even a sport.

Tennis is just about the most physically and mentally tough sport there is.

I think the Tour de France lads, triathletes and even rugby league players would laugh at that comment

I said just about.

I've played tennis at a very good level, and with your comment, it's pretty obvious you know nothing about the sport.

I played for my local tennis club and for the school team until I was about 14/15 so I know a bit about tennis. I didn’t mind playing it just fine it very boring to watch. Also I didn’t find playing tennis particularly physically demanding either







You obviously didn’t find it demanding because you played it for fun and nowhere near the level that pro tennis players do.
For those two today to play for four and a half hours and maintain that level of concentration is beyond the ability of a school team tennis player.
No disrespect aimed at you but it is a fact.

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« Reply #77 on July 14, 2019, 10:07:06 pm by Donnywolf »
I understand people finding cricket boring. You have to get beyond superficial appearance to comprehend what it entails.

It requires a marvellous combination of control, aggression, strategy, skill, concentration and raw courage. I can't think of any other sport that combines the mental and physical aspects to the extent that cricket does.

And anyone who scoffs at the "physical" aspect has obviously never had a 5oz piece of hard leather whistle past their nose at 75mph which I have, nevermind the regular 90-95mph that the top players deal with regularly.

I used to play at a decent level (old South Riding League) and was a reasonably competent batsman. But I once faced a 95mph delivery from a bowling machine and I couldn't even focus on the ball, let alone make a rational choice of shot.

My uncle Mick Prendergast played 200 games as centre forward for Sheffield Weds and Barnsley in the 70s. He was absolutely fearless. Renown for putting his head where others wouldn't put their foot.

He was mates with Alan Ward who was a fast bowler for Derbyshire and England. Mick once told me he went to the cricket nets with Alan and faced a few deliveries from him. Even though Mick was a high level professional sportsman, he also said he couldn't focus on the ball. And he said it was terrifying having the ball whistle past him, even though Alan was deliberately bowling not at his body.

I have nothing but awe-filled respect for top level batsmen.

I was a superb fielder and enjoy Cricket immensely

You are right in what you say re facing the fast stuff. I dont know how the hell Batsman these days do it. I mean someone 22 yards away pegs a ball at you at say 90 mph

The ball is tiny and you have a split second to decide its length, its line and its speed and depending on those three factors what you are going to do with it.

I thought Cricket was good when I used to regularly watch it in the 60s 70s and 80s BUT it surpasses those standards now by MILES. Batsmen now are also supposed to check what the bowler is going to bowl checking as they run in where they are gripping the ball Seam up Seam offset Seam crossed

Effin hell thats at 22 yards plus and you are trying to read what the Bowler is going to do.

Big respect to them all and well done England today. If someone had written that as a script people would have said "stupid" "would / could never happen" but it did and I almost saw it all

OK I missed the last bit because I was gutted we had lost and went to the Pub with 4 overs left ! In 1966 when West Germany went 1-0 up I went oout to play Football because I "couldnt face up" to the fact we were losing and I dont know why I came back in but it was in time to see the equaliser !

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« Reply #78 on July 14, 2019, 10:36:38 pm by IDM »
Cricket is pointless, barely even a sport.

Tennis is just about the most physically and mentally tough sport there is.


Think you’ve been proven wrong today, as has. Boomstick..

redarmy82

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« Reply #79 on July 15, 2019, 09:26:29 am by redarmy82 »
Cricket is pointless, barely even a sport.

Tennis is just about the most physically and mentally tough sport there is.


Think you’ve been proven wrong today, as has. Boomstick..

As have those saying tennis is shite.

IDM

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« Reply #80 on July 15, 2019, 10:14:45 am by IDM »
Indeed, then again I wasn’t one of those..

I can find any sport good to watch, even those I don’t particularly like normally, if I chance upon it and the game itself is compelling and competitive..

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« Reply #81 on July 15, 2019, 11:42:10 am by DaveDRFC »
I'd hazard a guess the Wimbledon final will get better tv viewing figures than the cricket final.

Tenner bet for charity Dave? I’d ordinarily agree with you but given the cricket is now on channel 4 I fancy there will be more watching that.

Go on then. Tenner to Firefly?

Deal. Good luck!

According to this, 4.7 million for cricket, 10.2 million for the tennis.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/c4-fields-47m-peak-for-cricket-final/5141193.article

BBC now have an article on it where the numbers are closer but still more watching the tennis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/48989639

Then another link just for you Nick :)

https://www.firefly-support.co.uk/donate/2019-goal

;) :)
« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 01:23:26 pm by DaveDRFC »

Boomstick

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« Reply #82 on July 15, 2019, 01:15:49 pm by Boomstick »
Cricket is pointless, barely even a sport.

Tennis is just about the most physically and mentally tough sport there is.


Think you’ve been proven wrong today, as has. Boomstick..
Nope, cricket remains boring and I can't see the interest in such a slow and time consuming 'sport'.
Yawn.

The tennis was however amazing, lived up to the hype.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 01:18:00 pm by Boomstick »

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #83 on July 15, 2019, 01:24:04 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Like I say. Some folk struggle to get past the superficial level.

Boomstick

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« Reply #84 on July 15, 2019, 01:25:32 pm by Boomstick »
I'd hazard a guess the Wimbledon final will get better tv viewing figures than the cricket final.

Tenner bet for charity Dave? I’d ordinarily agree with you but given the cricket is now on channel 4 I fancy there will be more watching that.

Go on then. Tenner to Firefly?

Deal. Good luck!

According to this, 4.7 million for cricket, 10.2 million for the tennis.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/c4-fields-47m-peak-for-cricket-final/5141193.article

BBC now have an article on it where the numbers are closer but still more watching the tennis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/48989639

Then another link just for you Nick :)

https://www.firefly-support.co.uk/donate/2019-goal

;) :)
Says it all.

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« Reply #85 on July 15, 2019, 01:29:30 pm by Boomstick »
Like I say. Some folk struggle to get past the superficial level.
Maybe, but the viewing figures of the tennis and cricket say it all about cricket

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #86 on July 15, 2019, 01:46:50 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
No. It says it all about the viewers.

redarmy82

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« Reply #87 on July 15, 2019, 01:48:18 pm by redarmy82 »
No. It says it all about the viewers.

Clearly shows that tennis is by far a more popular, entertaining and enjoyable sport.

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« Reply #88 on July 15, 2019, 01:59:33 pm by NickDRFC »
I'd hazard a guess the Wimbledon final will get better tv viewing figures than the cricket final.

Tenner bet for charity Dave? I’d ordinarily agree with you but given the cricket is now on channel 4 I fancy there will be more watching that.

Go on then. Tenner to Firefly?

Deal. Good luck!

According to this, 4.7 million for cricket, 10.2 million for the tennis.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/c4-fields-47m-peak-for-cricket-final/5141193.article

BBC now have an article on it where the numbers are closer but still more watching the tennis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/48989639

Then another link just for you Nick :)

https://www.firefly-support.co.uk/donate/2019-goal

;) :)

But what about the Sky figures? They could make all the difference  :)...












Just kidding. I've doubled up given it was a bit of a landslide (unlike the games themselves).

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #89 on July 15, 2019, 02:02:48 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Yes. Like I said. It says it all about the viewers.

I'm very impressed with high level tennis by the way. No axe to grind there. But as a spectacle, involving far more facets of human endeavour, cricket knocks it into a cocked hat.

If more people want their entertainment served up in easier-to-dugest form, that's fine. I have no problem with that. I just don't see the need to abuse A to show your enjoyment of B.

 

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