Arise Sir Geoffrey

[Bentley Bullet]

https://youtu.be/y7QyFEnqwCk

[Branton Rover]

He was never that dynamic when he had a bat in his hand - however he’s bang on

[selby]

 I don't know if he still holds the record, but he held the record for the fastest century in a one day game for a long time, and he scored it in the final.
   In a period when bowlers were not restricted, wickets left uncovered in county matches, bowlers who could drag the back foot, therefore letting the ball go nearer to the batsman, fielding restrictions, and nowhere near the protection equipment worn in todays game, technically batsmen had to be much more aware of conditions and probably were better all round batsmen.
   In the last fifty years there has not been one rule introduced that has benefited the bowler.

[nortikorner]

he should stick to cricket

[IDM]

I admire Boycott and he was a boyhood hero of mine..

I’m not sure the Dunkirk spirit will be enough to deal with the economic forecast for a no deal Brexit as reported today (Office for Budget Responsibility - an independent watchdog)..

Plus didn’t Boycott say that about 3 week ago.?

[i_ateallthepies]

Is that the best you can do BB?  Cheap media shot.  I love your cricket commentary Geoffrey but stick to what you know about.

[Bentley Bullet]

Iateallthepies. What is cheap about showing a clip of someone with good old fashioned British spirit? I say old fashioned because it is not fashionable to show such positivity nowadays, for fear of ridicule from pessimists.

If positivity is cheap, doesn't that make negativity costly?

[Herbert Anchovy]

Irrespective of his politics I’ve always loved Boycott. I saw him playing for Yorkshire at Scarborough in the 80’s and he had a chat with supporters after the game. It was evident that most of his team mates had no time for him though.

[NickDRFC]

Irrespective of his politics I’ve always loved Boycott. I saw him playing for Yorkshire at Scarborough in the 80’s and he had a chat with supporters after the game. It was evident that most of his team mates had no time for him though.

Of course his teammates had no time for him, he was only interested in himself.

[i_ateallthepies]

Positivity is everyone's right.  I'm positive about the case for remaining a member of the EU, or does that not count?  Besides, if positivity is the subject I'd say you are the least qualified to comment on it since you have never ceased telling us how you voted one way and have since done your best to ridicule everyone else who voted with you.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Old man with anger management issues supports Brexit. Big wow.

I stuck it out long enough to see if my guess of how long it would be till he said "We fought two world wars" was right.

In fairness, I'd guessed 2 minutes and it was 3:40, so he lasted longer than I expected.

Yet another one who never fought a war raising the War(s) as a reason for us to get out. Fascinating how his generation harp on about that topic, whereas those left of the generation who DID fight WWII are much more supportive of the EU.

[Bentley Bullet]

Not everyone, 'Pies, just the silly bad loser ones. By silly, I'm referring to those who are positive about remaining in the EU. Don't you find it even ever so slightly a bit silly being positive about something that isn't going to happen?

In fear of repeating myself, being negative about the result of the vote is one thing, but not accepting it is playing right into the EU's hands.

That is and will continue to be a major reason should Brexit fail. At the very least it will contribute greatly to the delay in its success.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Go on BB. I'll ask yet again.

In what way do you think we could or should have got a better deal from the EU than the one May negotiated. And how, precisely, have the EU played on us being disunited, to give us a worse deal than we should have got?

[Bentley Bullet]

If you don't understand the old saying United we stand, Divided we fall I'm surprised you're from a mining village.

Even you should understand that the EU didn't have to work too hard at an agreement in the knowledge that the UK had its own people who wanted it to fail.

[BillyStubbsTears]

So. Go on. What better deal should we have got?

[scawsby steve]

he should stick to cricket

I agree; and Lineker should stick to football.

[Bentley Bullet]

he should stick to cricket

I agree; and Lineker should stick to football.

Brilliant post SS

[BillyStubbsTears]

So. Go on. What better deal should we have got?

So I guess we mark that down as a zero return then. Again.

[SydneyRover]

https://www.balloonsoverbritain.co.uk/

[Bentley Bullet]

So. Go on. What better deal should we have got?

So you think we should have accepted May's deal?

[BillyStubbsTears]

No. I don't.

Now, are you going to answer the question I've been asking you for a year? Or are you going to babby it again?

[Bentley Bullet]

Are you that singer David Gray? I ask because you don't half babble on. Now then, if you answer MY questions we might just get somewhere. Why shouldn't we have accepted May's deal?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bore off BB. Same every single time. The child's approach to discussion.

Never, ever an answer. Just stir the pot.

You make an assertion.

I ask you for clarity on it.

You refuse to clarify and instead insist I answer your question. A question, by the way, that I've answered dozens of times in here.

It's bizarre and, frankly, rather sad behaviour. I assume you get something out of this, but I'm buggered if I can see what.

[Bentley Bullet]

No Billy lad YOU'RE the one not answering, and you know why you're not answering because if you did answer, you'd answer the question for me.

Now, I'll try again. Why shouldn't we have accepted May's deal? What did she have to achieve to get your acceptance of a deal?

[foxbat]

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[BillyStubbsTears]

Go on. I'll humour you once again. Although you clearly haven't been listening these past 12 months  when I've answered that time after time.

May's deal was a dog's breakfast.

It was clear from the start that, to minimise the economic hit of Brexit, we had to stay closely connected to the Single Market. And it was clear from the start that the only way to solve the Irish border issue was to remain in the CU.

May unilaterally announced that we were leaving both. (Watch last night's Panorama: she didn't even discuss this with her Chancellor before announcing it.)

Having announced that we were leaving the CU, she totally failed to understand the EU position. She assumed that she could then negotiate a favourable trade deal. But the EU stuck to it's long term position. UK leaving the CU would badly damage the economy of an EU member state (Ireland). And so, the EU would not enter into negotiations on trade until that was sorted.

That's why we ended up with the backstop. Which effectively ties us into the CU with no say in CU rules.

So, May's deal is comprehensively, on every point, worse than staying in and worse than the sort of Norway+ deal which would have got a grudging majority of support in the country. Worse, her deal is supported by a tiny fraction of the population. So it had to be rejected.

No. Over to you. What better deal could we have got by being united?

[foxbat]

Multi millionaires wanting to stop the EU letting them keep their money offshore , and leave the paying of tax to us peasants , that I can understand . it is despicable , but I can understand he greed.

What I find hard to fathom is why this legion of well off pensioners ( like Boycott),
who won't be affected , want to wreak havoc on the next generations , so they can strut around their ' little England ' , trying to feel superior because 'we won the war'.
( the allies conveniently forgotten )

meanwhile the damage ( project fear ? ) is well under way.

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I see the pound is continuing it's downward trend making imports to the UK even more expensive for UK consumers, as well as continuing to erode the pension incomes of those of us who've made our homes in the EU. Tell me again what are the #Brexit benefits for ordinary folk?

I was never totally convinced about Boycott , though a magnificent batsman , the actual game seemed to be about his batting figures rather than a successful team performance. Perhaps that answers the question.

He may be Yorkshire , but his opinions are from another planet as far as I am concerned.

[Bentley Bullet]

Go on. I'll humour you once again. Although you clearly haven't been listening these past 12 months  when I've answered that time after time.

May's deal was a dog's breakfast.

It was clear from the start that, to minimise the economic hit of Brexit, we had to stay closely connected to the Single Market. And it was clear from the start that the only way to solve the Irish border issue was to remain in the CU.

May unilaterally announced that we were leaving both. (Watch last night's Panorama: she didn't even discuss this with her Chancellor before announcing it.)

Having announced that we were leaving the CU, she totally failed to understand the EU position. She assumed that she could then negotiate a favourable trade deal. But the EU stuck to it's long term position. UK leaving the CU would badly damage the economy of an EU member state (Ireland). And so, the EU would not enter into negotiations on trade until that was sorted.

That's why we ended up with the backstop. Which effectively ties us into the CU with no say in CU rules.

So, May's deal is comprehensively, on every point, worse than staying in and worse than the sort of Norway+ deal which would have got a grudging majority of support in the country. Worse, her deal is supported by a tiny fraction of the population. So it had to be rejected.

No. Over to you. What better deal could we have got by being united?

I never suggested that May's deals were any good. I have in fact said all along that Brexit has been handled badly by people from all parties, many of whom are determined to stop Brexit. If those people didn't have support from the public they wouldn't have had the backing to turn their backs on democracy.

WE are in a situation where our division weakens our stand in negotiations. If the UK is a laughing stock it is because we have divided ourselves while the EU just sits back and waits for us to implode. If the EU is laughing at us it is because they know they can rule because of our division. They can exploit the situation in such a way that they don't have to offer us any compromise. They can even sit back and laugh until we go cap in hand begging for them to let us back in.

If that's not the situation and they are willing to compromise, a better deal could mean one that allows us to design our own immigration system. That, in my view, was the biggest reason why we voted to leave. We could also agree on a trade policy that allows us to be fully independent.

Alas, I fear it could be too late and they'll probably choose to put nothing else on the table. If that's the case then our only option is to leave with no deal. A contributory factor to that could well have been because of our disunity.

[BillyStubbsTears]

And once again, you don't answer the question.

It's very simple.

In what way would our unity on this topic enabled us to negotiate a better deal?

What SPECIFIC things about May's deal do you not like, and how could we have negotiated better terms?

You can't just say "it would have been better." That's crap. You have to explain HOW it would have been better.

You MUST have an answer because you've been babbling on about disunity being the problem for months.

So. Give us the answer.

[IDM]

The only option to leave with no deal.?

There is the option of going of back to the country again, now that the electorate knows much more about the potential realities of Brexit than in 2016.

It isn’t a case of voting until we get the right result, nor is it ignoring a democratic result.  It is simply a reflection of being able to know a hell of a lot more than was clear in 2016..