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Iberian Red

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1380 on June 05, 2020, 04:24:03 PM by Iberian Red »
No. He has the touch of a Pedo

What the f*ck are you on about?
Ok.
SS.
Could you explain or justify your earlier post?
Nah

scawsby steve

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1381 on June 05, 2020, 04:29:02 PM by scawsby steve »
No. He has the touch of a Pedo

What the f*ck are you on about?
Ok.
SS.
Could you explain or justify your earlier post?
Nah

???

Iberian Red

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1382 on June 05, 2020, 04:31:56 PM by Iberian Red »
Dont worry. I'm off down the chippy in Scawthorpe,spot at people in the queue,go home,get angry,cos my wife has breast cancer and cant get an appointment with one of those lazy European Drs.

scawsby steve

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1383 on June 05, 2020, 04:45:12 PM by scawsby steve »
Jesus Christ, has anyone got any diazepam spare?

wilts rover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1384 on June 05, 2020, 04:49:21 PM by wilts rover »
This thread seems to have gone very strange all of a sudden?

scawsby steve

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1385 on June 05, 2020, 04:52:31 PM by scawsby steve »
This thread seems to have gone very strange all of a sudden?

Very strange? That's putting it mildly Wilts.

Iberian Red

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1386 on June 05, 2020, 04:53:34 PM by Iberian Red »
I'm thinking Scawbsy or Selby can keep it all together for us. Home delivery.
Raid your cupboard.
 Keep the red flag flying
Aunt Sall..

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scawsby steve

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1387 on June 05, 2020, 04:55:52 PM by scawsby steve »
That's it. I'm off to lie down in a darkened room.

Iberian Red

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1388 on June 05, 2020, 05:00:49 PM by Iberian Red »
Dont forget to self isolate!
 Good luck

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1389 on June 05, 2020, 06:30:46 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Can conservatives explain to me how working-class born, merited knight Keir Starmer is out of touch,

 but Eton-educated, burner of £50 note in front of homeless man,great laugh on the telly , Boris Johnson is a salt of the earth,  man of the people?

Who has said he is?

His entire argument for nearly five years has been that he is on the side of The People against The Elite. Where have you been?

That's not the same as someone saying KS is out of touch though is it

My apologies. I made the wrong conclusion of which part of the post you were referring to.

As for your actual point, well The Mail has, and Matt Hancock piled in with a jibe on the subject at PMQs last week.

Not Now Kato

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1390 on June 06, 2020, 12:25:48 PM by Not Now Kato »
Even the right wing Times doesn't speak well of Johnson....
 
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/things-are-about-to-get-even-worse-for-boris-johnson-q08g30mbx
 
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Johnson has been tested and found wanting
The marriage of convenience between the PM and his party is not likely to survive the years of grimness that lie ahead
Matthew Parris
Friday June 05 2020, 5.00pm, The Times

Here’s a mystery, a parable really for bigger things. Do you remember the government’s Joint Biosecurity Centre (JBC), trumpeted almost a month ago? News stories can flare and die but this one did sound big. In the words of the Institute for Government think tank, the JBC would have two main jobs: “an independent analytical function to provide real-time analysis about infection outbreaks” and advice “on how the government should respond to spikes in infections”.

One did wonder what Public Health England (PHE) and the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) were for but this new outfit sounded like a good idea. As Britain flounders through a pandemic and public trust in politicians wanes, think of the more durable reputations of the independent offices for national statistics and for budget responsibility. Or the Bank of England. Or think of our security services.

Well that appears to be what a panicky prime minister did think. He thought of the JTAC (the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre) and the JIC (Joint Intelligence Committee) and thought “Ah! Security! Spies! Yes — Medical Intelligence! Big announcement — media will lap it up.” And we all did. But what happened? You’re confused? So is the PM. Set up by government to inform itself independently from itself, the JBC has seen both its role and its leader change while still only in embryo. Only this week Downing Street told us that the JBC has been “in discussion” with the chief medical officer for England about moving from “level four” Covid security to “level three”. And at once a flustered health secretary pops up to tell us that the JBC doesn’t exist or (as Matt Hancock put it) “formally needs to come into existence”. A turf war with Public Health England, no doubt.

You and I are looking at a right Horlicks of a government, and the rot starts at the top. If we’re really at “level four” of the epidemic, why are we even coming out of lockdown?

How is this ludicrous travel quarantine ever going to work? Will our “world-beating” phone app ever be ready? Should we wear facemasks? Why does the virus appear to have fled London when only about 20 per cent have been infected? Where might it be headed next? What plans have we for localised lockdowns? Is the two-metre rule here to stay? What about schools when other year groups return? What about public transport as we return to work?

But leave it off: we’ve reached a point when firing questions is just embarrassing. Why bother unless we can address them to a presiding and commanding human intelligence? Which brings us to Boris Johnson, apparently still the prime minister.

You’ll have heard the mutterings. “Boris hasn’t fully recovered yet”, “not firing on all cylinders”, “no strategic direction”, “can’t concentrate”, “lost his bounce . . . ” Well he’s certainly lost his bounce. But as for all those other whispers about impaired judgment, they’re nonsense. He never had any judgment or strategic vision. His powers of concentration have always been weak. There never was a golden age of Boris Johnson, never was this fabled creature of whom we now see only a poor shadow. Mr Johnson was only ever a shallow opportunist with a minor talent to amuse.

No after-dinner speeches now. What at least he does realise is that this is not a time when his skills as a self-parodying light entertainer are called for. Sadly though, he doesn’t have any other skills. He broke into Downing Street by clambering up a drainpipe called Brexit and he never fully believed in that foolish endeavour, as the more deeply-rooted Brexiteers always knew.

Johnson may recover fully from the coronavirus but he is not going to get better, and a horrible national crisis has put that truth on show. Yet for him this, so far, has been the easy bit — the “rally round, boys, and let’s show a united face to our Covid-19 foe” bit.

What comes next must prove much more difficult for any occupant of No 10. Ahead lie two or perhaps three tremendous tests.

As Britain wakes up to the fact that we’ve messed up, the country faces a summer when our citizens, like children not allowed out to play, will watch with noses pressed to the window as continental Europe suns itself on beaches while we British are confined to Scrabble and computer games. It’s questionable whether this is even sustainable.

Second, as winter approaches, a big second wave of coronavirus may hit us. I’m not expecting this but the scientists guiding what’s left of government policy fear it’s a real risk. Unless the rest of the world is hit by comparable second waves, British voters would turn on a Tory government with real ferocity and a plausible Sir Keir Starmer is positioning Labour to profit from it.

Third, awaits the greatest test by far for any PM: struggling, maybe for years, to heal a gravely wounded national economy. Is Johnson the leader for a time of soaring unemployment, widespread bankruptcies, empty Treasury coffers and humiliating international comparisons? His parliamentary party at Westminster must wonder.

I’d be an idiot to predict that Johnson must fall before the next general election; but you’d be idiotic to rule it out. Guessing where, when and how is a mug’s game, but a general statement is possible. Once your credibility is shot and the voters have fallen out of love with you, you are vulnerable to the first rabbit-hole that breaks your stride. And if the PM trips and falls, he will already know that his marriage to the parliamentary Conservative Party was only ever one of convenience. They don’t like or trust him, and only chose him because they thought (rightly as it turned out) he could win a general election.

We can guess how Jeremy Hunt or Michael Gove rate Johnson’s capabilities. As for his chancellor, Johnson forced out Sajid Javid, who would never have been a rival, and replaced him with Rishi Sunak, a man already being seen (and, I hear, seeing himself) as a contender. The field will not be empty.

Throughout these frightening recent months we’ve had a prime minister who navigates not by the heavens but by opinion polls. Look at his quarantine plans. His actions are dictated by what he thinks we think we want. Let him study those polls ever more closely in the seasons ahead. His backbenchers, ministers and rivals will be.

SydneyRover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1391 on June 06, 2020, 01:00:46 PM by SydneyRover »
That's a scathing review of johnson and his government Mathew Parris could well be a member of the forum Kato?

drfchound

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1392 on June 06, 2020, 02:11:14 PM by drfchound »
Just make him an honorary member.

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1393 on June 06, 2020, 03:03:29 PM by Glyn_Wigley »
Even though he's a former Conservative MP? *shudder* :lol:

bpoolrover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1394 on June 06, 2020, 03:06:22 PM by bpoolrover »
Is he the same guy who voted Lib Dem as they were a remain party?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1395 on June 06, 2020, 03:08:32 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Parris is as thick as mince on technical issues. He once wrote an article suggesting that sea level rise was perhaps not due to climate change, but might be due to rivers dumping silt in the sea, the great dipshit.

But what he does know about is the internal mechanics of the Tory party, because that has been his home for decades.

wilts rover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1396 on June 06, 2020, 03:08:56 PM by wilts rover »
Not just any ex-Tory MP. He was Margaret Thatcher's private secretary and speech writer.



BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1397 on June 08, 2020, 10:30:16 AM by BillyStubbsTears »
I missed this performance last week.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1268225660796968960

To think the country of Gladstone and Disraeli and Lloyd George and Churchill and Attlee and even Thatcher would be ruled by a f**kwit like this.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1398 on June 08, 2020, 10:37:06 AM by Bentley Bullet »
I wonder if they'd have been treated similarly by their opponents if Twitter was around then?

SydneyRover

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1399 on June 08, 2020, 10:41:25 AM by SydneyRover »
I missed this performance last week.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1268225660796968960

To think the country of Gladstone and Disraeli and Lloyd George and Churchill and Attlee and even Thatcher would be ruled by a f**kwit like this.

It was certainly a challenge for the person doing the 'signing'

idler

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1400 on June 08, 2020, 12:54:59 PM by idler »
It doesn't matter which party you support Boris does not come across as a decent leader, whether it's of a political party or a country.
He always appears to be trying to think it out as he speaks, stumbling and stuttering his way through. I wonder what Thatcher's appraisal of him would have been but I think we can probably guess.

Ldr

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1401 on June 08, 2020, 12:56:54 PM by Ldr »
It doesn't matter which party you support Boris does not come across as a decent leader, whether it's of a political party or a country.
He always appears to be trying to think it out as he speaks, stumbling and stuttering his way through. I wonder what Thatcher's appraisal of him would have been but I think we can probably guess.

Spot on

drfchound

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1402 on June 08, 2020, 01:03:05 PM by drfchound »
I remember all the celebrations when Thatcher lost her position.
Be careful what you wish for eh.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1403 on June 08, 2020, 01:43:51 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
I missed this performance last week.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1268225660796968960

To think the country of Gladstone and Disraeli and Lloyd George and Churchill and Attlee and even Thatcher would be ruled by a f**kwit like this.

He didn't even pronounce the Italian correctly, the utter bell-end. If you're going to act like that, at least get it f**king right. What he said literally translates as "All are wellycome."

The rest of it sounds like a rambling drunk on the street. I was expecting it to finish with "An ah...ah KNOW what yer gunna think, but when yer come back, can I ask you for a bit of small change mate? Eh?"

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #1404 on June 08, 2020, 01:49:27 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
It's precisely what Max Hastings said nearly a decade ago:

"If the day ever comes that Boris Johnson becomes tenant of Downing Street...it means that Britain has abandoned its last pretensions to be a serious country."

Amen. We are in the middle of the biggest crisis since the War and he goes in front of the nation and plays the f**king dishevelled, unprepared rambling idiot act that he's built his career on. He is an utter embarrassment to the nation.

scawsby steve

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1405 on June 08, 2020, 03:49:33 PM by scawsby steve »
If you're going to ad lib a speech and make it up as you go along, you've got to be good at it. Anyone remember this?

"In the name of God, go; and take your Prime Minister, and the rest of your Rag, Tag, and Bobtails with you".

Who was it?

drfchound

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1406 on June 08, 2020, 05:13:47 PM by drfchound »
Wasn’t that in reference to Neville Chamberlain?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #1407 on June 08, 2020, 05:21:13 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
Leo Amery, in possibly THE most important speech in our history, did say to Chamberlain "In the name of God, go!" But he didn't say the rest.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1408 on June 08, 2020, 05:23:52 PM by BillyStubbsTears »
I wonder if they'd have been treated similarly by their opponents if Twitter was around then?

Right, so it's Johnson's opponents that make him act like a f**kwit?

You reckon Churchill would have put in a public performance like that at a time of national emergency? In any circumstances?

Or Thatcher?
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scawsby steve

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
« Reply #1409 on June 09, 2020, 12:09:36 AM by scawsby steve »
If you're going to ad lib a speech and make it up as you go along, you've got to be good at it. Anyone remember this?

"In the name of God, go; and take your Prime Minister, and the rest of your Rag, Tag, and Bobtails with you".

Who was it?

Come on, true genuine left wing socialists; you should remember him.

If no-one gets it soon, I'll have to start giving you clues.