Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

[wilts rover]

Yesterday the Daily Telegraph were forced to print an apology due to one of their columnists claiming something that wasn't true. They didn't name the columnist who had made this false claim - but it would be fun to guess to who it was

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1190659076084109316

Spoiler alert - there is a reason I have posted this news is this particular thread

[BillyStubbsTears]

Never!

Surely not Johnson being paid by The Telegraph to lie? Who'd ever have believed that?

Oh aye. Apart from those of us who read him lying in The Telegraph 30 years ago about the EU.

Once a liar, always a liar. And there are folk with so little self-esteem, they are happy to vote for him, knowing damn well that they can't trust two consecutive words of his to be true.

[SydneyRover]

Juncker tips the bucket on Johnson? make sure your not in the splash zone 

''Boris Johnson lied during the EU referendum campaign, says Juncker

''In a valedictory interview with the German magazine Der Spiegel, Juncker voiced regret he had not countered the claims of the leave campaign in 2016. The commission decided not to get involved on the advice of David Cameron, who feared interventions from Brussels would backfire.

Juncker said that had been a big mistake, adding: “So many lies were told, including by current prime minister, Boris Johnson, that there needed to be a voice to counter them.”''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/04/juncker-boris-johnson-told-so-many-lies-in-eu-referendum-campaign


''If you are looking for evidence of lies and untruths told during the 2016 referendum, the Labour MP Richard Corbett has a good list on his website here''

https://www.richardcorbett.org.uk/long-list-leave-lies/

PS it's a long list

[SydneyRover]

If any of you got the tits and togger (ta bst) through the letterbox yesterday you may have already swallowed this with brekky 

''FAST AND FURIOUS Boris Johnson urges Sun readers to vote Tory and he’ll ‘bang Brexit through’

BORIS Johnson has revealed his “fast and furious” plan to get Brexit wrapped up by Christmas if he wins a decisive General Election victory on December 12''

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10267938/boris-johnson-vote-tory-brexit/

More realistic (truth) is this:

''In an interview with the Sun on Sunday, Boris Johnson suggested that, in the event of the Tories winning the election, Brexit could happen by Christmas. The story started:

    Boris Johnson has revealed his “fast and furious” plan to get Brexit wrapped up by Christmas if he wins a decisive general election victory on December 12.

But the actual quote from Johnson was a bit less specific. He told the paper:

    We’ve got a deal that’s ready to go and if we can get it right with a new parliament we will move quickly.

    Our new MPs will come back the following day and we will bang it through. We’ll get Brexit done very, very fast and avoid another infinite period of dither and delay.

And, in practice, Johnson’s ‘Brexit by Christmas’ pledge will probably turn out to be as reliable as his “do or die” one to deliver Brexit by 31 October because it is very hard to imagine the Brexit agreement being passed before Christmas.

MPs will not be able to return to the Commons “the following day” after the election because the counting will not finish in some constituencies until late Friday. Then, when MPs do return to the Commons at the start of a new parliament, it normally takes a few days for them all to take the oath before any legislating can actually start. And even if Johnson were able to ram the withdrawal agreement bill through parliament before Christmas, the European parliament would also have to vote to rubber-stamp it for the UK to be able to leave on 1 January''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/nov/04/general-election-news-latest-health-chief-urge-parties-not-to-use-nhs-as-political-weapon-live-news

[Not Now Kato]

Well well well
 
https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1192402249135333376
 
 
Who'd have though it....................

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well well well
 
https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1192402249135333376
 
 
Who'd have though it....................

This is truly an outrage. We are being asked to pass judgement on a process and the PM is deliberately and unacceptably preventing us from seeing vital information about that process.

He'll win the GE, release this report then, there'll be an outcry, but there will be no way of stopping him ramming Brexit through.

[foxbat]

It turns out Boris Johnson's campaign launch really wasn't as big as it looked on TV

https://www.indy100.com/article/boris-johnson-tory-general-election-campaign-launch-size-birmingham-9188846

[foxbat]

more of the same from dePfeffel Spaffwaffle

NEW: Boris Johnson says in Scotland...

1. Labour have done a deal with the SNP

2. They’d hold a referendum next year

Both of these claims are lies.

Can this man actually speak the truth ?

[Donnywolf]

YES of course I CAN  - says dePfeffel Spaffwaffle

Its just that nobody has noticed me doing it yet - again says dePfeffel Spaffwaffle

[bpoolrover]

He would allow a new independent vote thou maybe not in a year so it’s only bending the truth😉

[Hounslowrover]

Sheffield flooded yesterday, Doncaster and parts of South Yorkshire today, with warnings around Donny of serious dangers to life.  Also flooding in Derbyshire, so today he visits Matlock, why, even the BBC is live from Donny. I am not comparing the damage done to various areas, but interesting that Boris visits a constituency with a 60% Tory vote, they won't let him near voters who may have a go at him.

[Filo]

Sheffield flooded yesterday, Doncaster and parts of South Yorkshire today, with warnings around Donny of serious dangers to life.  Also flooding in Derbyshire, so today he visits Matlock, why, even the BBC is live from Donny. I am not comparing the damage done to various areas, but interesting that Boris visits a constituency with a 60% Tory vote, they won't let him near voters who may have a go at him.

He’ll come when the water has gone down and deny there was ever any flooding

[BillyStubbsTears]

This.

Sweet f**king Jesus.

This lying Kitson is the PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/davies_will/status/1192809049601040386

He will say ANYTHING to please a room. There's a NI businessman here looking for answers about post-Brexit trade and this f**king idiot goes into a pissed-up attempt at being a cross between Churchill and a w**k comedian.

Just to try to impress the room.

Are you HONESTLY going to vote to have him as PM for 5 years?

[SydneyRover]

I am gobsmacked that people would vote for someone that has openly criticised the UK for years as a correspondent based in Brussels, gives the middle finger to the authority of parliament and the crown and would sell his soul in exchange for Russian gold pieces.

[albie]

Tory journalist Peter Oborne has set up a website dedicated to the lies of Johnson;
https://boris-johnson-lies.com/

Handy to keep tabs, as he lies so frequently that it is easier just to assume everything he says is made up.

[Donnywolf]

This.

Sweet f**king Jesus.

This lying Kitson is the PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/davies_will/status/1192809049601040386

He will say ANYTHING to please a room. There's a NI businessman here looking for answers about post-Brexit trade and this f**king idiot goes into a pissed-up attempt at being a cross between Churchill and a w**k comedian.

Just to try to impress the room.

Are you HONESTLY going to vote to have him as PM for 5 years?

no not HIM noe his wretched smirking Cabinet members (whoever they are today).

he is lying non stop and nobody seems to be a ) holding him to Account for it or b ) even caring whether he does it !

My only hope is a hung Parliament 

[wilts rover]

This.

Sweet f**king Jesus.

This lying Kitson is the PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/davies_will/status/1192809049601040386

He will say ANYTHING to please a room. There's a NI businessman here looking for answers about post-Brexit trade and this f**king idiot goes into a pissed-up attempt at being a cross between Churchill and a w**k comedian.

Just to try to impress the room.

Are you HONESTLY going to vote to have him as PM for 5 years?

And then you see the front pages of todays newspapers, or the BBC website, and its as if this, THE reason given for having an election in the first place, never happened.

Weird. Or sinister?

[Not Now Kato]

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you; OUR Prime Minister....
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcTbWxVl-iM

[SydneyRover]

Sorry Kato you can't give him away that easily, drunk, disorderly and lying who would want him.

Not if you paid me.

[bpoolrover]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-blunkett-labour-corbyn-antisemitism-party-column-a9196091.html?amp what a lovely party

[albie]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-blunkett-labour-corbyn-antisemitism-party-column-a9196091.html?amp what a lovely party

Blackpool,

I reckon you need to have some reliable data before agreeing with propaganda pieces from old enemies of Corbyn.

Here you go, some from a Jewish group;
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/check-evidence/

Looks to me like the Tories have much more of a problem with anti-semitism, as well as Islamophobia.

Check out the view of John Bercow, that Corbyn is not a racist. Also Baroness Warsi, who continues to battle with her party to investigate anti muslim bias.

[BigH]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-blunkett-labour-corbyn-antisemitism-party-column-a9196091.html?amp what a lovely party

Another reason why Labour won't get anywhere near a majority.

[bpoolrover]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-blunkett-labour-corbyn-antisemitism-party-column-a9196091.html?amp what a lovely party

Blackpool,

I reckon you need to have some reliable data before agreeing with propaganda pieces from old enemies of Corbyn.

Here you go, some from a Jewish group;
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/check-evidence/

Looks to me like the Tories have much more of a problem with anti-semitism, as well as Islamophobia.

Check out the view of John Bercow, that Corbyn is not a racist. Also Baroness Warsi, who continues to battle with her party to investigate anti muslim bias.most of the labour supporters on here quote the independent why is it not reliable?

[albie]

Blackpool,

Your Independent link is a recycled story from the Telegraph.

It is an opinion piece from a Corbyn opponent. It is an election stunt to distract from the policy debate.

It doesn't give any evidence, and does not address the data in the link I gave.
It does not look at the allegations of discrimination and racism in other parties, nor the incidence of both across society as a whole.

Here is a timeline of Corbyn supporting the Jewish community;
https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1193163297157197830

The article  you posted contains no new information, and recycles old stories simply to discredit.

[wilts rover]

Fascinating that some people cant tell the difference between the enemies of a political leader putting out smear stories in the press to give them negative coverage - and what a political leader says and does which deserves negative coverage.

Or maybe rather than can't they won't.

You think this charlatan has your best interests at heart?

Doncaster and other flooded areas do not deserve extra government help and it is definitely not a national emergency. Go tell that to the hundreds of people of people who have had their lives and possessions ruined.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-weather-public-urged-to-stay-away-from-swollen-rivers-amid-extensive-flooding-11857056

[BillyStubbsTears]

Fascinating that some people cant tell the difference between the enemies of a political leader putting out smear stories in the press to give them negative coverage...

Like...err...let me think.

Like Thatcher saying her greatest legacy was Blair, for example?

Surely, she wouldn't ever have considered saying that to chuck a hand grenade into her opponents' ranks, eh?

[wilts rover]

Well Tony Blair agreed with it. So did Gordon Brown, commentators at the time and historians since.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-22073434/tony-blair-my-job-was-to-build-on-some-thatcher-policies

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/margaret-thatchers-legacy-spilt-milk-new-labour-and-the-big-bang-she-changed-everything-8564541.html

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/1999/apr/20/labour.labour1997to99

https://economicsociology.org/2018/03/19/thatcherisms-greatest-achievement/

There are a few people who want to re-write history though, hmmm.

[bpoolrover]

Blackpool,

Your Independent link is a recycled story from the Telegraph.

It is an opinion piece from a Corbyn opponent. It is an election stunt to distract from the policy debate.

It doesn't give any evidence, and does not address the data in the link I gave.
It does not look at the allegations of discrimination and racism in other parties, nor the incidence of both across society as a whole.

Here is a timeline of Corbyn supporting the Jewish community;
https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1193163297157197830

The article  you posted contains no new information, and recycles old stories simply to discredit.

maybe so
Albie it’s just like so many of Sydney’s links that he shares with us like the one from the sun but I didn’t see any labour voters on here questioning his link?

[Bentley Bullet]

The Sun is only credible when it suits!

[SydneyRover]

Blackpool,

Your Independent link is a recycled story from the Telegraph.

It is an opinion piece from a Corbyn opponent. It is an election stunt to distract from the policy debate.

It doesn't give any evidence, and does not address the data in the link I gave.
It does not look at the allegations of discrimination and racism in other parties, nor the incidence of both across society as a whole.

Here is a timeline of Corbyn supporting the Jewish community;
https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1193163297157197830

The article  you posted contains no new information, and recycles old stories simply to discredit.

maybe so
Albie it’s just like so many of Sydney’s links that he shares with us like the one from the sun but I didn’t see any labour voters on here questioning his link?

Thanks bp you're spot on again why would those from the left dispute a list of facts which is exactly what they are a genuine list of destructive policies from the nasty party and its clingons and you not only most likely didn't even read the whole list you cannot point to a single one and say it's not true and neither can anyone else.

Be my guest knock yourself out prove me wrong.