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How old were Ian Snodin and Alick when they broke into the team
Allardyce's thoughts on the 'welfare' issue.https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1163700870535663618
Has anyone mentioned that as it was the administrator, and not the manager who called off the game. Could his motivation be to simply stop a series of heavy defeats that could potentially stop any take over going through, or lower the sale value if propspective buyers saw that the actual team was worse than first thought???
I must admit I have been scratching my head over this welfare issue ever since I read it, and I am still scratching my head.My intuition (physical aspects aside) is that not only would playing this game tonight not cause any harm to their welfare but would actually increase their welfare. You become more resilient by dealing with adversity.Physically, unless they had an u18/u23 game Monday night, the welfare of the players just has to be managed like any other club has to manage it.
As far as I can see the only actual person saying the game is officially off and Rovers aren't travelling is Liam Hoden. I think everyone assumes this is the case but it doesn't seem to have been put out there officially. Bolton said it was postponed but they don't have the authority to do that. The EFL just said they're aware of the situation. Shambles from all involved, and I worry that it's us who'll get the shit end of the stick again.
Quote from: roversdude on August 20, 2019, 10:03:32 amHow old were Ian Snodin and Alick when they broke into the teamIan Snodin was 16, Alick was 15.At the start of the 1956/57 season Alick played in the first 13 games, including four in the first 10 days, and scored 15 goals...aged 17.That was in the old League 2, now the Championship, when the game was a lot more physical and defenders used to get away with much more than they do now.Ian Snodin captained Rovers when he was 18, left the club at 21 by which time he had made over 200 first team appearances...more than half while still a teenager.When Rovers won promotion in 1980/81 among the leading appearance makers were Ian Snodin, aged 17, (32 league games), David Harle, 17, (34 games), Steve Lister, 19, (39 games), Daral Pugh, 19, (42 games), Glynn Snodin, 21, (44 games), Willie Boyd, 21, (45 games), Billy Russell, 21, (46 games).It must be a hard life being a young footballer these days.
Quote from: MachoMadness on August 20, 2019, 01:55:18 pmAs far as I can see the only actual person saying the game is officially off and Rovers aren't travelling is Liam Hoden. I think everyone assumes this is the case but it doesn't seem to have been put out there officially. Bolton said it was postponed but they don't have the authority to do that. The EFL just said they're aware of the situation. Shambles from all involved, and I worry that it's us who'll get the shit end of the stick again. Indeed. I got an email timed at 19:15 yesterday advertising tickets for the game, (amongst other news), and there's nothing on DROS yet! I think the club needs to make a statement.
couple of pertinent points to explore here:can clubs who are in administration sign 'new' players, under any sort of meaningful contract whatsoever ?how long does it take to properly process a player administration to the stage that they are able to lawfully appear in a first team game ?if as I suspect that the answers are, essentially, 'yes' and 'not very long' then bearing in mind the transfer window is still wide open, Bolton could have signed and registered twenty part league players after the final whistle on Saturday in plenty of time for them to fulfil the fixture, which should be their first obligationit also renders the 'welfare' excuse a complete irrelevance, and leaves us with no reason whatsoever why the game should not have gone ahead, other that whatever the as yet unspoken, real motives might turn out to be, which would make for an even more concrete case for Rovers to be awarded the three points - does anyone have the wherewithal to check one or both of those queries ?the one thing that I keep coming back to when thinking about this is the absolute lack of respect shown to Rovers here, and for that reason alone I want Bolton absolutely shafted and Rovers given the points; there can be no excuse for treating another club in such a shitty, underhand, unprofessional manner - none at all - I'm still f**king seething !
Quote from: Not Now Kato on August 20, 2019, 02:03:25 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on August 20, 2019, 01:55:18 pmAs far as I can see the only actual person saying the game is officially off and Rovers aren't travelling is Liam Hoden. I think everyone assumes this is the case but it doesn't seem to have been put out there officially. Bolton said it was postponed but they don't have the authority to do that. The EFL just said they're aware of the situation. Shambles from all involved, and I worry that it's us who'll get the shit end of the stick again. Indeed. I got an email timed at 19:15 yesterday advertising tickets for the game, (amongst other news), and there's nothing on DROS yet! I think the club needs to make a statement.Why do the club need to make a further statement on top of that explaining refunds are available?
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on August 20, 2019, 02:46:30 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on August 20, 2019, 02:03:25 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on August 20, 2019, 01:55:18 pmAs far as I can see the only actual person saying the game is officially off and Rovers aren't travelling is Liam Hoden. I think everyone assumes this is the case but it doesn't seem to have been put out there officially. Bolton said it was postponed but they don't have the authority to do that. The EFL just said they're aware of the situation. Shambles from all involved, and I worry that it's us who'll get the shit end of the stick again. Indeed. I got an email timed at 19:15 yesterday advertising tickets for the game, (amongst other news), and there's nothing on DROS yet! I think the club needs to make a statement.Why do the club need to make a further statement on top of that explaining refunds are available? Que? The club hadn't made any statement, let alone a further statement at the time of my posting. According to the email I received yesterday evening they were still selling tickets! Keep up man.....
Quote from: Not Now Kato on August 20, 2019, 11:01:09 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on August 20, 2019, 02:46:30 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on August 20, 2019, 02:03:25 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on August 20, 2019, 01:55:18 pmAs far as I can see the only actual person saying the game is officially off and Rovers aren't travelling is Liam Hoden. I think everyone assumes this is the case but it doesn't seem to have been put out there officially. Bolton said it was postponed but they don't have the authority to do that. The EFL just said they're aware of the situation. Shambles from all involved, and I worry that it's us who'll get the shit end of the stick again. Indeed. I got an email timed at 19:15 yesterday advertising tickets for the game, (amongst other news), and there's nothing on DROS yet! I think the club needs to make a statement.Why do the club need to make a further statement on top of that explaining refunds are available? Que? The club hadn't made any statement, let alone a further statement at the time of my posting. According to the email I received yesterday evening they were still selling tickets! Keep up man.....What are you expecting?
Quote from: Not Now Kato on August 20, 2019, 11:01:09 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on August 20, 2019, 02:46:30 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on August 20, 2019, 02:03:25 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on August 20, 2019, 01:55:18 pmAs far as I can see the only actual person saying the game is officially off and Rovers aren't travelling is Liam Hoden. I think everyone assumes this is the case but it doesn't seem to have been put out there officially. Bolton said it was postponed but they don't have the authority to do that. The EFL just said they're aware of the situation. Shambles from all involved, and I worry that it's us who'll get the shit end of the stick again. Indeed. I got an email timed at 19:15 yesterday advertising tickets for the game, (amongst other news), and there's nothing on DROS yet! I think the club needs to make a statement.Why do the club need to make a further statement on top of that explaining refunds are available? Que? The club hadn't made any statement, let alone a further statement at the time of my posting. According to the email I received yesterday evening they were still selling tickets! Keep up man.....The club issued a brief statement from Gavin Baldwin yesterday and posted a notice about ticket refunds. Both of these were done on the evening of Bolton's cancellation announcement. So what would you be wanting exactly?Also, the e-mail will have been sent out automatically having been scheduled in place to go out 24 hours before the game. As simple as a tick box not being unchecked on the club's e-mail system.