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Quote from: Axholme Lion on September 06, 2019, 11:08:11 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 05, 2019, 10:14:07 pmI've said many times, McDonnell understands how a capitalist economy works FAR better than any Tory Chancellor going back 50 years, with the possible exception of Ken Clarke.The history of the rest of them is horrific.Hammond and Osborne implemented insane Austerity measures which is the 180 degree opposite of what any basic university economics course would tell you to do to a depressed economy. We have had the worst recovery from recession since the South Sea Bubble as a result and have lost a decade of economic growth.Lamont was destroyed in 1992 by the financial markets when trying to keep the pound tied to the Deutschmark and suffered the most humiliating defeat for any Chancellor since the War.Lawson stupidly cut taxes as the economy was booming in 1988, leading to runaway inflation and the inevitable bust of the 1990 recession.Geoffrey Howe made the incomprehensible mistake of raising I retest rates and cutting Govt spending at the depth of a recession in 1981, turning a bad recession into a catastrophic one, trebling unemployment and starting the collapse of industry in the UK.Anthony Barber poured Govt spending into an already overheating economy in 1972, leading to an unsustainable boom and the massive increase in inflation of the mid-70s.50 years of almost continuous failure by Tory Chancellor's, because of a failure to understand the basic precepts of capitalist macroeconomics.McDonnell understands this. It's clear in every speech he gives. His economics are no more radical than Ken Clarke's in 1993, but he's painted as some sort of mad Marxist. That shows you how far the Tories have moved from anything remotely resembling sensible economics or politics.McDonell would have you use your spare bedroom to house asylum seekers at gun point.Well I pity the poor t**t who gets lumbered with you.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 05, 2019, 10:14:07 pmI've said many times, McDonnell understands how a capitalist economy works FAR better than any Tory Chancellor going back 50 years, with the possible exception of Ken Clarke.The history of the rest of them is horrific.Hammond and Osborne implemented insane Austerity measures which is the 180 degree opposite of what any basic university economics course would tell you to do to a depressed economy. We have had the worst recovery from recession since the South Sea Bubble as a result and have lost a decade of economic growth.Lamont was destroyed in 1992 by the financial markets when trying to keep the pound tied to the Deutschmark and suffered the most humiliating defeat for any Chancellor since the War.Lawson stupidly cut taxes as the economy was booming in 1988, leading to runaway inflation and the inevitable bust of the 1990 recession.Geoffrey Howe made the incomprehensible mistake of raising I retest rates and cutting Govt spending at the depth of a recession in 1981, turning a bad recession into a catastrophic one, trebling unemployment and starting the collapse of industry in the UK.Anthony Barber poured Govt spending into an already overheating economy in 1972, leading to an unsustainable boom and the massive increase in inflation of the mid-70s.50 years of almost continuous failure by Tory Chancellor's, because of a failure to understand the basic precepts of capitalist macroeconomics.McDonnell understands this. It's clear in every speech he gives. His economics are no more radical than Ken Clarke's in 1993, but he's painted as some sort of mad Marxist. That shows you how far the Tories have moved from anything remotely resembling sensible economics or politics.McDonell would have you use your spare bedroom to house asylum seekers at gun point.
I've said many times, McDonnell understands how a capitalist economy works FAR better than any Tory Chancellor going back 50 years, with the possible exception of Ken Clarke.The history of the rest of them is horrific.Hammond and Osborne implemented insane Austerity measures which is the 180 degree opposite of what any basic university economics course would tell you to do to a depressed economy. We have had the worst recovery from recession since the South Sea Bubble as a result and have lost a decade of economic growth.Lamont was destroyed in 1992 by the financial markets when trying to keep the pound tied to the Deutschmark and suffered the most humiliating defeat for any Chancellor since the War.Lawson stupidly cut taxes as the economy was booming in 1988, leading to runaway inflation and the inevitable bust of the 1990 recession.Geoffrey Howe made the incomprehensible mistake of raising I retest rates and cutting Govt spending at the depth of a recession in 1981, turning a bad recession into a catastrophic one, trebling unemployment and starting the collapse of industry in the UK.Anthony Barber poured Govt spending into an already overheating economy in 1972, leading to an unsustainable boom and the massive increase in inflation of the mid-70s.50 years of almost continuous failure by Tory Chancellor's, because of a failure to understand the basic precepts of capitalist macroeconomics.McDonnell understands this. It's clear in every speech he gives. His economics are no more radical than Ken Clarke's in 1993, but he's painted as some sort of mad Marxist. That shows you how far the Tories have moved from anything remotely resembling sensible economics or politics.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 06, 2019, 11:33:49 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on September 06, 2019, 11:08:11 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 05, 2019, 10:14:07 pmI've said many times, McDonnell understands how a capitalist economy works FAR better than any Tory Chancellor going back 50 years, with the possible exception of Ken Clarke.The history of the rest of them is horrific.Hammond and Osborne implemented insane Austerity measures which is the 180 degree opposite of what any basic university economics course would tell you to do to a depressed economy. We have had the worst recovery from recession since the South Sea Bubble as a result and have lost a decade of economic growth.Lamont was destroyed in 1992 by the financial markets when trying to keep the pound tied to the Deutschmark and suffered the most humiliating defeat for any Chancellor since the War.Lawson stupidly cut taxes as the economy was booming in 1988, leading to runaway inflation and the inevitable bust of the 1990 recession.Geoffrey Howe made the incomprehensible mistake of raising I retest rates and cutting Govt spending at the depth of a recession in 1981, turning a bad recession into a catastrophic one, trebling unemployment and starting the collapse of industry in the UK.Anthony Barber poured Govt spending into an already overheating economy in 1972, leading to an unsustainable boom and the massive increase in inflation of the mid-70s.50 years of almost continuous failure by Tory Chancellor's, because of a failure to understand the basic precepts of capitalist macroeconomics.McDonnell understands this. It's clear in every speech he gives. His economics are no more radical than Ken Clarke's in 1993, but he's painted as some sort of mad Marxist. That shows you how far the Tories have moved from anything remotely resembling sensible economics or politics.McDonell would have you use your spare bedroom to house asylum seekers at gun point.Well I pity the poor t**t who gets lumbered with you.How many will you be taking?
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Quote from: Axholme Lion on September 06, 2019, 02:14:33 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 06, 2019, 11:33:49 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on September 06, 2019, 11:08:11 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on September 05, 2019, 10:14:07 pmI've said many times, McDonnell understands how a capitalist economy works FAR better than any Tory Chancellor going back 50 years, with the possible exception of Ken Clarke.The history of the rest of them is horrific.Hammond and Osborne implemented insane Austerity measures which is the 180 degree opposite of what any basic university economics course would tell you to do to a depressed economy. We have had the worst recovery from recession since the South Sea Bubble as a result and have lost a decade of economic growth.Lamont was destroyed in 1992 by the financial markets when trying to keep the pound tied to the Deutschmark and suffered the most humiliating defeat for any Chancellor since the War.Lawson stupidly cut taxes as the economy was booming in 1988, leading to runaway inflation and the inevitable bust of the 1990 recession.Geoffrey Howe made the incomprehensible mistake of raising I retest rates and cutting Govt spending at the depth of a recession in 1981, turning a bad recession into a catastrophic one, trebling unemployment and starting the collapse of industry in the UK.Anthony Barber poured Govt spending into an already overheating economy in 1972, leading to an unsustainable boom and the massive increase in inflation of the mid-70s.50 years of almost continuous failure by Tory Chancellor's, because of a failure to understand the basic precepts of capitalist macroeconomics.McDonnell understands this. It's clear in every speech he gives. His economics are no more radical than Ken Clarke's in 1993, but he's painted as some sort of mad Marxist. That shows you how far the Tories have moved from anything remotely resembling sensible economics or politics.McDonell would have you use your spare bedroom to house asylum seekers at gun point.Well I pity the poor t**t who gets lumbered with you.How many will you be taking?So Axholme you want the country to be led by a bunch of rich Old Etonian right wing thugs who don't give a flying f***k for the likes of us.You want your bumps feeling.The thought of another 5 years of them (which will probably be among my last on this planet) honestly makes me come out in a cold sweat.
meanwhile back on planet earthWe all thought that we had seen it all when the Tories tweeted a meme of Jeremy Corbyn dressed as a chicken but it would appear that the UK's governing party had another trick up their sleeves.The Tories have actually produced a bucket of chicken (or what they are trying to pass off as chicken, anyway) with a JFC logo on it plus Corbyn's face as well as the slogan 'totally spineless chicken' and are sending it to journalists across London.This completely bizarre stunt was soon all over social media, and needless to say people were not impressed with the Tories attempt to try and goad Corbyn into backing a general election.
Corbyn the bottler? it just shows how some people fall forthe Sun's sh1te.the strategic move is to wait and make Johnson ask for an extension .Even a 5 year old wouldn't fall for Johnson's trap.
Quote from: foxbat on September 06, 2019, 04:37:45 pmCorbyn the bottler? it just shows how some people fall forthe Sun's sh1te.the strategic move is to wait and make Johnson ask for an extension .Even a 5 year old wouldn't fall for Johnson's trap.Or he could do the decent thing and not ask for an extension.
Quote from: Axholme Lion on September 06, 2019, 04:43:02 pmQuote from: foxbat on September 06, 2019, 04:37:45 pmCorbyn the bottler? it just shows how some people fall forthe Sun's sh1te.the strategic move is to wait and make Johnson ask for an extension .Even a 5 year old wouldn't fall for Johnson's trap.Or he could do the decent thing and not ask for an extension.The decent thing would be to try and get a deal and not ruin the economy and people's lives.
To all of you having a pop at me today, point me to where I've ever defended either Boris Johnson or the Tory Party. What I've always said is that the rabble in Westminster are all useless, and have been accused of being a "lazy thinker" because of it.Well it looks like my views are vindicated today, as both Corbyn and McDonnell had stated that once the bill to block Non Deal had been locked down, they'd vote for an election. Now they''re saying they won't.So they're not only cowards and cheats, they're a pair of f*cking liars as well.
Steve, what's the Daily Mail say this morning about Labour, mate?
Quote from: scawsby steve on September 06, 2019, 05:18:53 pmTo all of you having a pop at me today, point me to where I've ever defended either Boris Johnson or the Tory Party. What I've always said is that the rabble in Westminster are all useless, and have been accused of being a "lazy thinker" because of it.Well it looks like my views are vindicated today, as both Corbyn and McDonnell had stated that once the bill to block Non Deal had been locked down, they'd vote for an election. Now they''re saying they won't.So they're not only cowards and cheats, they're a pair of f*cking liars as well.If that's directed at me, I didn't say that people who thought our MPs were shite are "lazy thinkers", but people who believe every single politician is out for themselves and themselves alone. Because that just isn't true.
Quote from: RedJ on September 06, 2019, 05:29:48 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 06, 2019, 05:18:53 pmTo all of you having a pop at me today, point me to where I've ever defended either Boris Johnson or the Tory Party. What I've always said is that the rabble in Westminster are all useless, and have been accused of being a "lazy thinker" because of it.Well it looks like my views are vindicated today, as both Corbyn and McDonnell had stated that once the bill to block Non Deal had been locked down, they'd vote for an election. Now they''re saying they won't.So they're not only cowards and cheats, they're a pair of f*cking liars as well.If that's directed at me, I didn't say that people who thought our MPs were shite are "lazy thinkers", but people who believe every single politician is out for themselves and themselves alone. Because that just isn't true.No, it wasn't you Red, it was someone else.
Here you go:https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/Enjoy, lads and lasses!There will be a new one for the coming election of course!
Quote from: scawsby steve on September 06, 2019, 05:18:53 pmTo all of you having a pop at me today, point me to where I've ever defended either Boris Johnson or the Tory Party. What I've always said is that the rabble in Westminster are all useless, and have been accused of being a "lazy thinker" because of it.Well it looks like my views are vindicated today, as both Corbyn and McDonnell had stated that once the bill to block Non Deal had been locked down, they'd vote for an election. Now they''re saying they won't.So they're not only cowards and cheats, they're a pair of f*cking liars as well.It hasn't been given Royal Assent yet, so it's not locked down.Have you bothered to read the 2017 Labour Manifesto yet?
Lol at Steve
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on September 06, 2019, 05:20:47 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on September 06, 2019, 05:18:53 pmTo all of you having a pop at me today, point me to where I've ever defended either Boris Johnson or the Tory Party. What I've always said is that the rabble in Westminster are all useless, and have been accused of being a "lazy thinker" because of it.Well it looks like my views are vindicated today, as both Corbyn and McDonnell had stated that once the bill to block Non Deal had been locked down, they'd vote for an election. Now they''re saying they won't.So they're not only cowards and cheats, they're a pair of f*cking liars as well.It hasn't been given Royal Assent yet, so it's not locked down.Have you bothered to read the 2017 Labour Manifesto yet?But it will have Royal Assent by Monday, before the motion for a GE, and they're still going to vote against it. They're simply reneging on what they've said.No wonder people's trust in politicians is at an all time low.