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foxbat

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #840 on December 06, 2019, 05:29:03 pm by foxbat »
Andrew Neil has exposed Boris Johnson's major weaknesses without even interviewing him. And they are:

1. A record of failure.
2. A litany of lies and broken promises.
3. Abject cowardice.

Vote for this shallow, uncaring, chickenshit pretender and you'll get the PM you deserve.



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foxbat

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #841 on December 06, 2019, 05:43:28 pm by foxbat »
Nurses using foodbanks, disabled & sick denied benefits & dying while trying to appeal, millions of children living in poverty & a PM who makes 3/4 of a million on the side! Can anyone seriously think he's on te side of ordinary people trying to get by?
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Boris Johnson pocketed more than £700,000 in outside earnings in the last year – more than any other MP.

The figure was described as “obscene” and evidence of the “sickening inequality in this country”, as struggling nurses are having to use foodbanks to survive.

Mr Johnson was also able to use an £850,000 political war chest from personal donations.

Labour’s Louise Haigh said: “While the PM has been raking in obscene amounts of money on top of his prime ministerial salary, hundreds of thousands are relying on foodbanks, unable to heat homes and struggling to make ends meet.

“His contempt for the people that need government support the most is exactly why we have such sickening inequality in this country.”

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #842 on December 06, 2019, 07:11:06 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
This is big.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1202986288586117120

This is a senior British diplomat who signed up to her current job in order to help "get Brexit done."

She says she "can no longer peddle half lies on behalf of political leaders she doesn't trust."

She says if another country had been as dishonest about what Brexit meant as our Govt had been, she would have expected to be instructed, as a senior Diplomat, to make strong representations to them about their behaviour.

Still. We took back control eh? I'm sure she's just another f**king Remoaner firing off.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #843 on December 06, 2019, 09:45:45 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I know it's well known in Govt circles that Johnson is f**king useless on details. Disorganised, lacking in attention, unwilling to put the effort in to master his brief.

But good God, I had no idea quite how bad until seeing that debate tonight.

No discussion at all about detailed policy. Every question was answered with "Get Brexit done". By the end, even his supporters in the audience had got bored of it.

When he DID try to get into detail, he just trotted out bald lies. Labour spending £1.2trn. (They wouldn't). Labour putting Corporation Tax up to the highest in Europe. (They wouldn't.) The Tories building 40 new hospitals. (They aren't.)

You can see why his minders don't want you to see him in front of Andrew Neil. Or even Julie Etchingham. He's simply hopeless when he's not just parrotting standard lines.

scawsby steve

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #844 on December 06, 2019, 09:54:27 pm by scawsby steve »
I know it's well known in Govt circles that Johnson is f**king useless on details. Disorganised, lacking in attention, unwilling to put the effort in to master his brief.

But good God, I had no idea quite how bad until seeing that debate tonight.

No discussion at all about detailed policy. Every question was answered with "Get Brexit done". By the end, even his supporters in the audience had got bored of it.

When he DID try to get into detail, he just trotted out bald lies. Labour spending £1.2trn. (They wouldn't). Labour putting Corporation Tax up to the highest in Europe. (They wouldn't.) The Tories building 40 new hospitals. (They aren't.)

You can see why his minders don't want you to see him in front of Andrew Neil. Or even Julie Etchingham. He's simply hopeless when he's not just parrotting standard lines.

According to Sky News, YouGov data suggests that 52% of people think Johnson won the debate tonight.

drfchound

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #845 on December 06, 2019, 09:55:21 pm by drfchound »
I know it's well known in Govt circles that Johnson is f**king useless on details. Disorganised, lacking in attention, unwilling to put the effort in to master his brief.

But good God, I had no idea quite how bad until seeing that debate tonight.

No discussion at all about detailed policy. Every question was answered with "Get Brexit done". By the end, even his supporters in the audience had got bored of it.

When he DID try to get into detail, he just trotted out bald lies. Labour spending £1.2trn. (They wouldn't). Labour putting Corporation Tax up to the highest in Europe. (They wouldn't.) The Tories building 40 new hospitals. (They aren't.)

You can see why his minders don't want you to see him in front of Andrew Neil. Or even Julie Etchingham. He's simply hopeless when he's not just parrotting standard lines.

According to Sky News, YouGov data suggests that 52% of people think Johnson won the debate tonight.







The people have spoken eh then Steve.

wilts rover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #846 on December 06, 2019, 09:55:37 pm by wilts rover »
How will you deal with Islamaphobia in the Conservative Party?

I will get Brexit done....

wilts rover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #847 on December 06, 2019, 09:57:13 pm by wilts rover »
I know it's well known in Govt circles that Johnson is f**king useless on details. Disorganised, lacking in attention, unwilling to put the effort in to master his brief.

But good God, I had no idea quite how bad until seeing that debate tonight.

No discussion at all about detailed policy. Every question was answered with "Get Brexit done". By the end, even his supporters in the audience had got bored of it.

When he DID try to get into detail, he just trotted out bald lies. Labour spending £1.2trn. (They wouldn't). Labour putting Corporation Tax up to the highest in Europe. (They wouldn't.) The Tories building 40 new hospitals. (They aren't.)

You can see why his minders don't want you to see him in front of Andrew Neil. Or even Julie Etchingham. He's simply hopeless when he's not just parrotting standard lines.

According to Sky News, YouGov data suggests that 52% of people think Johnson won the debate tonight.







The people have spoken eh then Steve.

The ones who have been fooled into believing that he will get Brexit done... boy do you have a shock coming.

drfchound

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #848 on December 06, 2019, 09:59:44 pm by drfchound »
I know it's well known in Govt circles that Johnson is f**king useless on details. Disorganised, lacking in attention, unwilling to put the effort in to master his brief.

But good God, I had no idea quite how bad until seeing that debate tonight.

No discussion at all about detailed policy. Every question was answered with "Get Brexit done". By the end, even his supporters in the audience had got bored of it.

When he DID try to get into detail, he just trotted out bald lies. Labour spending £1.2trn. (They wouldn't). Labour putting Corporation Tax up to the highest in Europe. (They wouldn't.) The Tories building 40 new hospitals. (They aren't.)

You can see why his minders don't want you to see him in front of Andrew Neil. Or even Julie Etchingham. He's simply hopeless when he's not just parrotting standard lines.

According to Sky News, YouGov data suggests that 52% of people think Johnson won the debate tonight.







The people have spoken eh then Steve.

The ones who have been fooled into believing that he will get Brexit done... boy do you have a shock coming.







Why have I got a shock coming Wilts?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #849 on December 06, 2019, 10:03:22 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Because Brexit won't be done in 6 weeks or 6 months, or probably even 6 years. The work has barely started.

drfchound

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #850 on December 06, 2019, 10:09:28 pm by drfchound »
But that doesn’t shock me BST, I expected that to be the case, whoever wins next week.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #851 on December 06, 2019, 10:14:08 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Good Hound.

drfchound

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #852 on December 06, 2019, 10:20:56 pm by drfchound »
That’s what I say to my dogs,

SydneyRover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #853 on December 07, 2019, 12:36:52 am by SydneyRover »
But that doesn’t shock me BST, I expected that to be the case, whoever wins next week.

so when johnson says 'we'll get brexit done' what do you think he means hound?
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Donnywolf

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #854 on December 07, 2019, 06:08:45 am by Donnywolf »
I know it's well known in Govt circles that Johnson is f**king useless on details. Disorganised, lacking in attention, unwilling to put the effort in to master his brief.

But good God, I had no idea quite how bad until seeing that debate tonight.

No discussion at all about detailed policy. Every question was answered with "Get Brexit done". By the end, even his supporters in the audience had got bored of it.

When he DID try to get into detail, he just trotted out bald lies. Labour spending £1.2trn. (They wouldn't). Labour putting Corporation Tax up to the highest in Europe. (They wouldn't.) The Tories building 40 new hospitals. (They aren't.)

You can see why his minders don't want you to see him in front of Andrew Neil. Or even Julie Etchingham. He's simply hopeless when he's not just parrotting standard lines.

According to Sky News, YouGov data suggests that 52% of people think Johnson won the debate tonight.







The people have spoken eh then Steve.

The ones who have been fooled into believing that he will get Brexit done... boy do you have a shock coming.

Thta what many will think. The only thing that will be over (done) will be the Divorce settlement itself.

Oh and even that was technically done when Johnson got it through HOC but then had to trump up some way of getting it "stopped" as it was not extreme enough for his "clique"

I think I am old enough to perhaps never see the damage / or the positivities because it will follow years and years of wrestling hand wringing etc (imo) after which the little guys will be left with the crumbs (as they are now whether we are in or out) whilst as it always hes been the elite will be in clover (as they are now whether we are in or out)

All that is imho

Padge_DRFC

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #855 on December 07, 2019, 07:56:51 am by Padge_DRFC »
I know it's well known in Govt circles that Johnson is f**king useless on details. Disorganised, lacking in attention, unwilling to put the effort in to master his brief.

But good God, I had no idea quite how bad until seeing that debate tonight.

No discussion at all about detailed policy. Every question was answered with "Get Brexit done". By the end, even his supporters in the audience had got bored of it.

When he DID try to get into detail, he just trotted out bald lies. Labour spending £1.2trn. (They wouldn't). Labour putting Corporation Tax up to the highest in Europe. (They wouldn't.) The Tories building 40 new hospitals. (They aren't.)

You can see why his minders don't want you to see him in front of Andrew Neil. Or even Julie Etchingham. He's simply hopeless when he's not just parrotting standard lines.

According to Sky News, YouGov data suggests that 52% of people think Johnson won the debate tonight.

Quick everyone demand a re-vote.

SydneyRover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #856 on December 07, 2019, 08:34:57 am by SydneyRover »
The same tactics are geing used in the the uk as were used in the recent Australian elections that gave the conservatives a single seat majority, only use the leader, hide the rest and only allow the leader out in controlled situations.


wilts rover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #857 on December 07, 2019, 09:17:02 am by wilts rover »

The ones who have been fooled into believing that he will get Brexit done... boy do you have a shock coming.

Why have I got a shock coming Wilts?

The people who believe Johnson will 'get Brexit done' will have a shock coming hound.

If that applies to you - which it appears to in your reply to my comment - then you will have a shock coming. If it doesn't - which you appear to reference in your reply to Billy - then it wont.

wilts rover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #858 on December 07, 2019, 09:20:02 am by wilts rover »
On who came across as more trustworthy in #BBCDebate:

Jeremy Corbyn: 48%
Boris Johnson: 38%

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203071862374305792

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #859 on December 07, 2019, 09:24:00 am by Bentley Bullet »
So Corbyn's a better liar than Johnson then!

wilts rover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #860 on December 07, 2019, 09:27:23 am by wilts rover »
The same tactics are geing used in the the uk as were used in the recent Australian elections that gave the conservatives a single seat majority, only use the leader, hide the rest and only allow the leader out in controlled situations.



Funnily enough the same bloke who ran Morrison's campaign is the one running Johnson's. Isaac Levido a protege of Lynton Crosby. Channel 4 News did a piece this week on the similarities in the campaign strategies.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/30/lynton-crosby-isaac-levido-protege-conservative-election-machine

SydneyRover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #861 on December 07, 2019, 09:27:56 am by SydneyRover »
So Corbyn's a better liar than Johnson then!

that's something trump would say

Bentley Bullet

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #862 on December 07, 2019, 09:46:30 am by Bentley Bullet »
...Great minds......

SydneyRover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #863 on December 07, 2019, 10:26:46 am by SydneyRover »
yep, if trump wanted another tee he knows where to look.

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #864 on December 07, 2019, 10:46:36 am by Bentley Bullet »
He's found one or two of mine at Turnberry.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #865 on December 07, 2019, 12:57:01 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I suspect this is a future leader of the Labour party and PM.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RCorbettMEP/status/1203289732672819201

Seen her speak many times and she is a force of nature. Calm, but passionate. Knowledgeable but not lecturing. Clear without being simplistic. She never avoids a question but answers them with gentle authority.

We desperately need a better next generation of politicians than this one. If there's one thing that Austerity has done, it's that it has invigorated a whole generation on Left to get involved in politics.

SydneyRover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #866 on December 07, 2019, 09:11:16 pm by SydneyRover »
''Calls grow to stop Boris Johnson with tactical voting as race tightens

Eleventh-hour appeal to anti-Tory voters as poll shows Conservative majority halved''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/07/calls-grow-to-stop-boris-johnson-with-tactical-voting-as-race-tightens

anyone but johnson.

SydneyRover

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #867 on December 07, 2019, 10:58:06 pm by SydneyRover »
But that doesn’t shock me BST, I expected that to be the case, whoever wins next week.

so when johnson says 'we'll get brexit done' what do you think he means hound?
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don't forget to give your answer on this hound  :)

Ah well maybe next time?  :)
« Last Edit: December 08, 2019, 12:37:27 am by SydneyRover »

drfchound

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #868 on December 08, 2019, 06:40:31 pm by drfchound »
But that doesn’t shock me BST, I expected that to be the case, whoever wins next week.

so when johnson says 'we'll get brexit done' what do you think he means hound?
'

don't forget to give your answer on this hound  :)

Ah well maybe next time?  :)






Sydney, sorry, I didn’t realise there was a time limit for me to answer in.
What do I think he (Johnson) means...... well I think it means that he wants to get Brexit done.
What do you think........no time limit.....in your own time.

foxbat

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Re: General Election 2019 - 12th December
« Reply #869 on December 08, 2019, 07:33:00 pm by foxbat »
' get Brexit Done '
 Spafman's version of Trump's
 ' Make America Great Again ' .
A meaningless phrase for  the misguided,
 gullible and educationally challenged.

 

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