MyEU.uk

[bobjimwilly]

Only just come across this website; interesting to see how EU money has been spent in our area, region and right across the country:

https://www.myeu.uk

Can Brexiteers look in the mirror and convince themselves this government, or any government, will spend the same amount of money on similar projects in the future if Brexit happens?

[DonnyOsmond]

Depends on which Government. A Tory one will spend it in London, we will see very little.

Don't bite the hand that feeds.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Of course they won't. We've been awful in this country at funding projects outside the London magnet, and awful at funding R&D full stop. In any case, there is no way that we will replace this money even if we wanted to do so, because we will take a massive net hit to economic performance when we leave the EU. So there'll be a protracted period of belt-tightening.

And of course, it'll all be the fault of the Remainers...

[bpoolrover]

Under 2 million from the eu in Doncaster unless I’ve misunderstood, not massive amounts and the money was given to the council so let’s hope they spent it properly, and not sure how beneficial some of the projects are to most people

[DonnyOsmond]

Under 2 million from the eu in Doncaster unless I’ve misunderstood, not massive amounts and the money was given to the council so let’s hope they spent it properly, and not sure how beneficial some of the projects are to most people

They create a lot of jobs for starters.

[keith79]

2 million. Wow. Great stuff that.

[DonnyOsmond]

It's more than £2million.

£45m a year for local farmers
£4m for research
£6m for young people
£13m for growth & jobs

https://www.myeu.uk/area/DN

Looks like it's the whole DN post code but still a shit tonne.

[MachoMadness]

"Here's £2m in free money"
"Not a right lot though, is it?"

f**k me Bpool, I thought it was the remainers who were the out of touch elite!

As DO points out, it's significantly more than £2m as well.

[glosterred]

Isn’t the money our money anyway? The money that the EU spends is money that this and every government since we joined, sends to the EU each year. For them, the EU, to decide where it’s going to be spent

So well done to each and every government for sending the money to the EU to be spent here

[BillyStubbsTears]

You've totally misunderstood Bpool.

[DonnyOsmond]

Isn’t the money our money anyway? The money that the EU spends is money that this and every government since we joined, sends to the EU each year. For them, the EU, to decide where it’s going to be spent

So well done to each and every government for sending the money to the EU to be spent here

They use it in areas and for projects the countries governments wouldn't tend to spend it on.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Glos..

Depends what you mean by "our" money.

Yes, the UK puts in more than it gets back. But Yorkshire and the Humber region gets back a lot more than it puts in.

Because the EU invests heavily in economically disadvantaged areas. LikeY&H.

If we weren't leaving, we'd be about to receive a more than €3bn injection into our economy from the EU. But we won't now, because folk in Doncaster apparently don't want that.

Now, the question to ask yourself is, when we stop paying into the EU, do you reckon a Tory Govt will pour money into Y&H to make up that difference. Cos they sure as f**k didn't in the 80s and 90s.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Glos.

To follow up,what gets me about your post is the lack of understanding of the situation of places like South Yorks that it betrays. And it's something we hear regularly from Leave supporters.

They hammer on about how "our" money is mopped up by the EU. And yes, the country pays in more than it gets back. Because the UK as a country is richer than the EU average.

But South Yorks doesn't make a net contribution to the EU. Because South Yorkshire is one of the poorest areas in the EU.

Read that again

South Yorks is one of the poorest areas in the EU.

And it is one of the poorest areas because it was hammered by the Tories in the 80s, and hammered again by the Tories' Austerity since 2010.

And a driving force of the EU is to take money from richer areas (like London, and Milan, and Barcelona, and Amsterdam, and Paris) and invest it in poorer areas (like Sicily, and Bulgaria, and Greece, and Andalusia, and South Yorkshire).

And we've been guided by London spivs into giving that up.

Utter, f**king stupidity

[bpoolrover]

Was it one of the poorest areas when the tories didn’t hammer it I presume labour made it thriving? Back to the point which I’m not missing the eu gave 2 Doncaster under 2 million for projects that most probably will not benefit much from, which point am I missing

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bpool.

It did far better in the 2000s. Partly due to the generally better economy that Labour ran. Partly due to the huge amounts of money that the EU poured in through the Objective One programme.

[bpoolrover]

Thank you for the reply on that bst

[BillyStubbsTears]

No problem Bpool.

South Yorkshire moved out of the group of poorest areas in the EU in the early 2000s, under Labour.

It's just recently dropped back into the group of poorest areas, after 9 years of Tory rule.

Draw your own conclusions....

[glosterred]

So it is UK money that is spent in the UK as the EU sees fit, then we get a lot of political diatribe which says a lot but not a lot trying to say how good it is of the EU to spend our, UK, money in Yorkshire and Humberside that may or may not, cos we don’t know, that the government wouldn’t spend here, whilst saying I don’t really understand

[BillyStubbsTears]

Anybody?

[IDM]

Wubble.??

[tommy toes]

Get Blackpool to explain it.

[Not Now Kato]

Get Blackpool to explain it.

That would be fun. 

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

If you want to convince us a ration analysis of uk government funding in Doncaster vs tax return and the same for the eu please.  Doncaster you will find also receives more in uk money than paid in.  The eu money is not that significant is it?  It would be better spent given to local areas to decide how it is used directly.

[keith79]

45 million for farmers wow. What do they spend that on?

[BillyStubbsTears]

BFYP.

Yes. I know that Donny gets more from national Govt than it pays in.

That's not the point.

The point is, do you expect a Tory Govt to make up the additional amount that Donny and the rest of Yorkshire is going to lose after we leave the EU?

Table 1 here doesn't give much encouragement, does it?

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN04033

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

What does table 1 tell us?  An interesting point is overlay the areas with highest spend per person with the political party typically favoured there...

Equally, I think its valid that government will be judged on what they do. The Tories have held power for 9 years now, people have a valid choice to remove them.

[BillyStubbsTears]

BFYP.

It tells us that Yorkshire and the Humber gets significantly less per head spent on it by Govt than the national average, and that the proportion is going steadily down under the Tories. I see that and I find it stretches credibility to breaking point and beyond to even imagine that the Tories will cover the several billion Euros that Yorkshire and the Humber were due to get from the EU in the 2020s, and which we've now chucked away.

Regarding your comment on other regions, are you SERIOUSLY saying that London gets more spent on it per head than anywhere else in England, by a Tory Govt because it predominantly votes Labour? Really?

[bpoolrover]

Get Blackpool to explain it.

why don’t you explain it? How have you benefited from eu money?

[SydneyRover]

The problem is with the eu money that is reinvested it hardly benefits the locals, many of the projects in Blackpool are for immigrants that have moved to Blackpool it’s not benefiting the people that already live there

Let's for the time being not take this as dog whistling and get you to provide some proof bp

[bpoolrover]

What proof would you like Sydney?