Has the royal family finally passed their use by date?

[SydneyRover]

Thanks DW for putting your neck on the line and risking Sydney accusing you of being racist. I'm sure if he had his way all of us who watched Love Thy Neighbour would be locked up!

so this is not an attempt to wind me up as accusing other people as racists, my op was because of what I see as privileged tw#ts living the high life at the publics expense and acting like morons.

Prince Philip is a racist full stop we have established that and you agree by your own terms

I can't think how I can describe Andrew, I'll leave that to you.

Charles is a pompous d**khead that interferes in politics.

The queen or any other head of the royal family is lame-politically

Margaret - cough

Anne -quite a pleasant woman not rude in any way

[wilts rover]

I should stop being rude to Sydney if I were you - don't you know that the 'true' king of the UK is an Australian farmer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Abney-Hastings,_15th_Earl_of_Loudoun

Actually this isn't correct as the 'true' king of the UK would be the direct descendant of King Harold Goodwin - but good luck in tracing them.

[drfchound]

Thanks DW for putting your neck on the line and risking Sydney accusing you of being racist. I'm sure if he had his way all of us who watched Love Thy Neighbour would be locked up!

so this is not an attempt to wind me up as accusing other people as racists, my op was because of what I see as privileged tw#ts living the high life at the publics expense and acting like morons.

Prince Philip is a racist full stop we have established that and you agree by your own terms

I can't think how I can describe Andrew, I'll leave that to you.

Charles is a pompous d**khead that interferes in politics.

The queen or any other head of the royal family is lame-politically

Margaret - cough

Anne -quite a pleasant woman not rude in any way

This is why so many people have stopped posting on the forum.

[bpoolrover]

Thanks DW for putting your neck on the line and risking Sydney accusing you of being racist. I'm sure if he had his way all of us who watched Love Thy Neighbour would be locked up!

so this is not an attempt to wind me up as accusing other people as racists, my op was because of what I see as privileged tw#ts living the high life at the publics expense and acting like morons.

Prince Philip is a racist full stop we have established that and you agree by your own terms

I can't think how I can describe Andrew, I'll leave that to you.

Charles is a pompous d**khead that interferes in politics.

The queen or any other head of the royal family is lame-politically

Margaret - cough

Anne -quite a pleasant woman not rude in any way

what things have you done for the county/world that makes you not a moron?

[SydneyRover]

I post, you please yourself if you get involved.

bb, look at at post, decide which opposite view can be sustained, without proof, sustain the argument at all costs, never take a backward step, never ever apologise for being incorrect, escalate the argument in off topic direction, suck others in to support off topic direction, put words in others mouths, don't answer on topic post that are difficult, make an unsustained post and expect others to search to defend it.

[bpoolrover]

https://amp.theguardian.com/voluntary-sector-network/2012/jun/11/queen-charitable-support How lame can you get!

[SydneyRover]

If you rephrase it I may reply

[SydneyRover]

Alert: Guardian link, may contain facts, anyone allergic to facts please call their doctor now 

''After the royal’s defiant Newsnight interview on Saturday triggered a disbelieving reaction from the public and the media, the prince was under growing pressure from critics in the UK and US on Sunday who demanded an apology for his conduct and said that his defence of his actions was simply not credible''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/17/prince-andrew-calls-for-royal-to-say-sorry-and-speak-to-fbi

[bpoolrover]

You seem very bitter lol plenty of mps on all sides have done wrong in the past why don’t you post a few links of labour ones if your disgusted by people’s behaviour? Andrew no doubt is a bad egg that does not mean they all are does it?

[SydneyRover]

Always room for another, pint of bitter thank bp 

[SydneyRover]

You seem very bitter lol plenty of mps on all sides have done wrong in the past why don’t you post a few links of labour ones if your disgusted by people’s behaviour? Andrew no doubt is a bad egg that does not mean they all are does it?

There you go bp, happy now , oh shit thought you said tory oh well too late now 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lies-conservative-leader-candidate-list-times-banana-brexit-bus-a8929076.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gove-boris-johnson-no-deal-blame-brexit-brussels-europe-eu-a9043851.html

https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/01/failing-grayling-long-long-list-chris-graylings-blunders-8789780/

http://www.thejist.co.uk/politics/a-list-of-alleged-conservative-lies-corruption-and-incompetence/

[Muttley]

You seem very bitter lol plenty of mps on all sides have done wrong in the past why don’t you post a few links of labour ones if your disgusted by people’s behaviour? Andrew no doubt is a bad egg that does not mean they all are does it?

The difference is that we can vote out MPs or they can be pressured to resign whereas with the royals they just expect people to continue doffing their caps, bowing and curtsying and funding their extravagant lifestyles.

[Donnywolf]

They certainly do - want to perpetuate procreate and take advantage of what is now an anochronism that is

If they are to continue they need to be similar to other European Monarchies

There are 3 major things that we need to address imho

1) Leaving the EU / B****t (call it what you will) which needs sorting one way or another. However this is a discussion for the dedicated Threads

2) Proportional Representation - which would hopefully negate "extremism" either way and make people engage more with Politics.

3) Whether we become a Republic

The Republic discussion is one that will be faced and will probably be very devisive as well. It wont happen in my lifetime and luckily for posters / readers on here I have no offspring to continue adding their old dads "ten pennorth" (or to ignore)

[Glyn_Wigley]

You seem very bitter lol plenty of mps on all sides have done wrong in the past why don’t you post a few links of labour ones if your disgusted by people’s behaviour? Andrew no doubt is a bad egg that does not mean they all are does it?

The difference is that we can vote out MPs or they can be pressured to resign whereas with the royals they just expect people to continue doffing their caps, bowing and curtsying and funding their extravagant lifestyles.

Quite. Every time all of you now see Andrew living in the lap of luxury, just remember who earnt the money that pays for it. Because it certainly wasn't him.

[The Red Baron]

They certainly do - want to perpetuate procreate and take advantage of what is now an anochronism that is

If they are to continue they need to be similar to other European Monarchies

There are 3 major things that we need to address imho

1) Leaving the EU / B****t (call it what you will) which needs sorting one way or another. However this is a discussion for the dedicated Threads

2) Proportional Representation - which would hopefully negate "extremism" either way and make people engage more with Politics.

3) Whether we become a Republic

The Republic discussion is one that will be faced and will probably be very devisive as well. It wont happen in my lifetime and luckily for posters / readers on here I have no offspring to continue adding their old dads "ten pennorth" (or to ignore)

I won't get onto the B word, but I think the prospects of PR might get a boost in the wake of this General Election. It needs one of the "Big" parties to get behind it. There's currently no incentive for the Tories to support PR, but if the penny drops with Labour that the situation in Scotland means it will struggle to gain an outright majority even in favourable circumstances, they might just start to call for the introduction of PR.

I can't see it happening while Corbyn is Labour Leader, but when he steps down, a younger Leader might be receptive to the idea.

As for the Monarchy, as I said earlier, I think it's not going to be a live issue while the Queen is alive, but after that I think it could become a topic for discussion.

[Not Now Kato]

I really can't get all this 'love' for the monarchy.  They aren't chosen by God, nor any other Sky Fairy.  They aren't special. They are only there because somewhere in the past someone had a bigger gang with bigger sticks!
 
Take a look through history.  A bigger bunch of murdering crooks is hard to find - yet people think they're wonderful somehow.
 
And don't give me that crap about the alternative being President Johnson or President Corbin - where does it say that we HAVE to have either a Monarch or a President?  We can operate quite successfully, and I believe quite happily, under a well run Parliament acting in the countries best interests.
 
Oh, and cut the crap about how much tourism they bring in;  more people visit Disney in America than come to see Buck House etc.  If we really do want more tourism then there are better options than the supposed 'Royal' family!
 
https://magicguides.com/disney-world-statistics/   
 
https://www.statista.com/statistics/373081/uk-royal-tourism-admission-numbers-by-establishment/

[Glyn_Wigley]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/373081/uk-royal-tourism-admission-numbers-by-establishment/

And that tourism is nothing to do with the Royal Family themselves, it's the buildings. Which would still be there, monarchy or not.

[BobG]

Hear hear Kato!

It may be heretical, but I always did think that Princess Diana would have turned out a much better person if someone had taken her behind the bike sheds when she was 15 or 16. Mind you, in later years I played tennis with an extremely tall female police officer, who, as luck would have it, was on the Royal Protection Squad - or whatever it's called. She scared me shitless one evening when she opened her handbag and pulled out a bloody pistol... Anyway, said lady copper was most disparaging about the Diana. Did not like her one bit. Manipulative, immature, no human decency to her 'inferiors' and extremely thick as well were some of the adjectives I recall. So perhaps the bike sheds wouldn't have done much good after all?

Most of 'em could do with a session behind them sheds tbh.

Cheers

BobG

[SydneyRover]

Probably why she was so acceptable to the royals to start with Bob

[BobG]

Ha ha ha!! now that did make me laugh Sydney

Cheers

BobG

[SydneyRover]

Best one-liner so far about Andrew  'he neither engaged a lawyer or his brain' 

[SydneyRover]

You know you've hit rock bottom when BT dumps you

"BT says it will not work with company linked to Prince Andrew

Pressure on prince grows as telecoms firm becomes latest to distance itself from him''

Apparently he's thinking of ditching the trade job and joining the Speaking Circuit 

[SydneyRover]

Maybe it's a good Andrew cancelled his visit to Doncaster as many would have run out of y-fronts following Johnson's visit? 

[bpoolrover]

I think what's left of the UK should go to a model with a figurehead being appointed/voted so they can be removed in adverse circumstances, withbthe lot we have now, when they screw up big time just spend more money on PR and ride out the storm. It's unbelievable that these are the people that the country is supposed to look up to. How do you answer your Kids when they ask 'what did prince Andrew do?'



 

let’s say the people voted and they voted for say a Tory mp you would then not agree with that, when you say let the people vote, what you mean is let the people vote for what you want, no?

[SydneyRover]

I think you've already forgotten that the speaker of the house is a position elected by all Mps,  independent and accepted by all. 

Do you have a problem with that bp?

[BobG]

Bit surprised I haven't provoked old BB tbh. You are the funniest person on this board BB. You have a real talent. You make me roar with laughter sometimes. But you are not one ofthose blessed with much ability or, I suspect, experience in discussion, debate and argument. As Charles Handy used to say, "Stick to your knitting." It's good advice.

Cheers

BobG

[drfchound]

Bit surprised I haven't provoked old BB tbh. You are the funniest person on this board BB. You have a real talent. You make me roar with laughter sometimes. But you are not one ofthose blessed with much ability or, I suspect, experience in discussion, debate and argument. As Charles Handy used to say, "Stick to your knitting." It's good advice.

Cheers

BobG

That is a very condescending post BG.
I am guessing that you don’t know BB personally.

[BobG]

Sorry DRFC. You are right. And I was wrong. I don't know BB. No. But I do know his penchant for perpetual unreasoned and prolonged outbursts of emotion which he seeks to masquerade as facts. That, I think, detracts from the man. As I said, BB is gloriously funny. i love him for that. He would hjave a whole legion of fans if he did that a bit more.

Sorry BB. I'm not trying to be a git - even if I've come across like one!

Cheers

BobG

[SydneyRover]

This is funny, apologies for posting a sun link.

DAN WOOTTON The time has come for Prince Charles step up and sort out the monarchy – the Queen needs his help and support

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10396733/prince-charles-sort-out-monarchy/

Charlie?

yes mum,

Pass me that spade 

[SydneyRover]

Prince Andrew obviously doesn't think that knowingly consorting with a convicted paedophile is serous then?

"'Buckingham Palace confirmed on Sunday that the Duke of York was “standing back from all his patronages” but indicated he still hoped to return to a public role at some point by saying the move was only temporary''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/24/prince-andrew-to-withdraw-from-scores-of-charities