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the vicar

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #60 on December 28, 2019, 08:50:23 pm by the vicar »
Well i like Sheaf. Think he will become a very good player.
His passing is often wayward agreed. He is naturally a defender and his main attribute is winning the ball and providing defensive cover in front of the back 4

He will improve his passing and vision and decision making given the amount of playing time he is being given by DM.
He has good coaches who will improve his weaknesses. Remember he is only 20yrs old and still learning his trade. This is his 1st season playing League football.

For some reason some of our supporters need to have a scapegoat someone to vent their anger on. Don’t know why but it’s the same every season.

With regard to today, maybe on reflection giving him a well earned rest might not be a bad thing.
Get behind him everyone and support him, encourage him. Players thrive on encouragement and supporters play a huge part in giving players confidence.

If we get the opportunity to sign him permanently we should jump at the chance imo.







Paul, sorry to step in mate but you have to allow people to pass comments on players performances, good or bad.
You too have had a pop at players, Bingham, Thomas, Gomes and May all spring to mind in recent weeks.
hound have i done something to upset you? You have had quite a few pops at me this last week or so.

What have i said to not allow anyone else have a pop at players. Have i put out a ban on people making comments hound? All I said was there always seems to have to be a scapegoat. Sheaf is the one at the present time.
I agree he isn’t playing as well now as he was earlier in the season but there is a great deal of unwarranted criticism of him on this forum imo.

Surely i am allowed to criticise people who i think are giving out criticism which i feel is unwarranted.
Doesn’t mean they are not entitled to their opinion and i have never ever said that.

Paul you do jump on people from a great hight, when they say something about a player club director or even the tea lady, just let them have there say even if it is nor what you agree with them, after all it is there option.



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5 on Tour

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #61 on December 28, 2019, 09:27:01 pm by 5 on Tour »
Well i like Sheaf. Think he will become a very good player.
His passing is often wayward agreed. He is naturally a defender and his main attribute is winning the ball and providing defensive cover in front of the back 4

He will improve his passing and vision and decision making given the amount of playing time he is being given by DM.
He has good coaches who will improve his weaknesses. Remember he is only 20yrs old and still learning his trade. This is his 1st season playing League football.

For some reason some of our supporters need to have a scapegoat someone to vent their anger on. Don’t know why but it’s the same every season.

With regard to today, maybe on reflection giving him a well earned rest might not be a bad thing.
Get behind him everyone and support him, encourage him. Players thrive on encouragement and supporters play a huge part in giving players confidence.

If we get the opportunity to sign him permanently we should jump at the chance imo.







Paul, sorry to step in mate but you have to allow people to pass comments on players performances, good or bad.
You too have had a pop at players, Bingham, Thomas, Gomes and May all spring to mind in recent weeks.
hound have i done something to upset you?

What have i said to not allow anyone else have a pop at players. Have i put out a ban on people making comments hound? All I said was there always seems to have to be a scapegoat. Sheaf is the one at the present time.
I agree he isn’t playing as well now as he was earlier in the season but there is a great deal of unwarranted criticism of him on this forum imo.







No mate, of course you haven’t upset me.
I myself have said that Sheaf hasn’t been lately at the level he was at earlier in the season.
I actually do agree that some fans have a downer on certain players, I hear them in the seats around me every week.
If those players do something bad they rip into them but if they do something good then they either don’t say anything or laugh and say he was lucky or something of the kind.
I picked up on your earlier post though because you yourself have also had a pop at our players, the ones I mentioned earlier immediately sprang to mind, but you have been jumping on others who have had a pop at Sheaf.
Nothing personal, just an observation, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Ok  :thumbsup:

I did say Bingham, May and Thomas are not good enough for league 1 and i don’t think there are too many people that would disagree with me.
Depends how many we get in Jan as to whether we keep Thomas and use him as a different option off the bench if required.

May is worth it just for his response to the “Alfie what’s the score” chant at Peterborough. 😂

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #62 on December 28, 2019, 09:42:50 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Back at the ranch. Should we expect a good attendance tomorrow? Holidays, decent weather, good away following, good result at Posh. What do we reckon, about 11,000?

the vicar

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« Reply #63 on December 28, 2019, 09:45:05 pm by the vicar »
There should be at least 11000 with at least 7000 us and there sellout

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #64 on December 28, 2019, 09:56:14 pm by drfchound »
Well i like Sheaf. Think he will become a very good player.
His passing is often wayward agreed. He is naturally a defender and his main attribute is winning the ball and providing defensive cover in front of the back 4

He will improve his passing and vision and decision making given the amount of playing time he is being given by DM.
He has good coaches who will improve his weaknesses. Remember he is only 20yrs old and still learning his trade. This is his 1st season playing League football.

For some reason some of our supporters need to have a scapegoat someone to vent their anger on. Don’t know why but it’s the same every season.

With regard to today, maybe on reflection giving him a well earned rest might not be a bad thing.
Get behind him everyone and support him, encourage him. Players thrive on encouragement and supporters play a huge part in giving players confidence.

If we get the opportunity to sign him permanently we should jump at the chance imo.







Paul, sorry to step in mate but you have to allow people to pass comments on players performances, good or bad.
You too have had a pop at players, Bingham, Thomas, Gomes and May all spring to mind in recent weeks.
hound have i done something to upset you?

What have i said to not allow anyone else have a pop at players. Have i put out a ban on people making comments hound? All I said was there always seems to have to be a scapegoat. Sheaf is the one at the present time.
I agree he isn’t playing as well now as he was earlier in the season but there is a great deal of unwarranted criticism of him on this forum imo.







No mate, of course you haven’t upset me.
I myself have said that Sheaf hasn’t been lately at the level he was at earlier in the season.
I actually do agree that some fans have a downer on certain players, I hear them in the seats around me every week.
If those players do something bad they rip into them but if they do something good then they either don’t say anything or laugh and say he was lucky or something of the kind.
I picked up on your earlier post though because you yourself have also had a pop at our players, the ones I mentioned earlier immediately sprang to mind, but you have been jumping on others who have had a pop at Sheaf.
Nothing personal, just an observation, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Ok  :thumbsup:

I did say Bingham, May and Thomas are not good enough for league 1 and i don’t think there are too many people that would disagree with me.
Depends how many we get in Jan as to whether we keep Thomas and use him as a different option off the bench if required.

May is worth it just for his response to the “Alfie what’s the score” chant at Peterborough. 😂







I wasn’t at the game mate, what did Alfie do?

Campsall rover

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #65 on December 29, 2019, 05:54:01 am by Campsall rover »
They have not scored an away goal in open play in the league since 14 September.
Sshh. What are you doing CBcb
Not due an away goal (hopefully) until Jan 1st.   ;) ;) ;)
« Last Edit: December 29, 2019, 06:33:29 am by Campsall rover »

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« Reply #66 on December 29, 2019, 10:13:09 am by Campsall rover »
Huge game today. A massive opportunity to show our credentials as prospective play off contenders.
We need to keep up the standards set at London Road. It’s not easy to do week in week out. It is the teams that produce that consistency most often that finish at the top end of the league.

We play Sunderland at a good time as the manager & team are under huge pressure.
Nothing less than promotion will suffice for them this season and their current form suggests they at present are a very long way from achieving their objective.

It’s important we score first and not give them a sniff of getting any momentum in the game and boosting their confidence.

Should be a tremendous atmosphere and i hope 8.000 Rovers fans turn up today to negate the noise from 4.000 Mackhams.

donnievic

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #67 on December 29, 2019, 10:25:04 am by donnievic »
2 coach loads of mackems just turned up at skellow grange for a pre match drink

Campsall rover

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« Reply #68 on December 29, 2019, 10:28:33 am by Campsall rover »
2 coach loads of mackems just turned up at skellow grange for a pre match drink
That’s about 3 hours drinking time.
What state will they be in by 1-30/2-0pm.

donnievic

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« Reply #69 on December 29, 2019, 10:35:11 am by donnievic »
Lol they made need a drink way they are playing
« Last Edit: December 29, 2019, 11:16:31 am by donnievic »

Spud

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #70 on December 29, 2019, 11:02:41 am by Spud »
Lol they made need a drink why they are playing

Reading that, are you with them Vic? 😂

donnievic

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #71 on December 29, 2019, 11:15:47 am by donnievic »
No watching cricket   :ohmy:

donny dave

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« Reply #72 on December 29, 2019, 11:43:38 am by donny dave »
I think we may have a problem with tennis balls on the pitch by the sound of it in protest to their club.

Reesielad

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« Reply #73 on December 29, 2019, 01:06:56 pm by Reesielad »
From what I gather and watching the extended highlights of the Sunderland vs Bolton game, Phil Parkinson had set his team up all wrong and was to worried about losing than actually pushing on to win the game. Hopefully some Copps magic can unlock the door today.


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redarmy82

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #74 on December 29, 2019, 01:15:33 pm by redarmy82 »
Pubs in town only letting away fans in again. Happens every time visitors bring a big following. A joke really.

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« Reply #75 on December 29, 2019, 01:18:58 pm by Filo »
Pubs in town only letting away fans in again. Happens every time visitors bring a big following. A joke really.

Makes you wonder who’s town it is

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #76 on December 29, 2019, 06:19:59 pm by selby »
  Anybody would find it difficult to argue against the best team won today, we were second best all the game, Sunderland looking a very good side to me, as I didn't think we played that bad, just met a better side on the day.
  While in games like that you cannot give goals away like their first goal. There is no way Sunderland would score that goal against Accrington, one of their players would have kicked the ball away, and then stood directly in front of it until their defence was organised. Not Ennis chunter at the Referee, take your eye off the ball, stand on the touchline side and let the taker pass inside to a player with a free 20 yard run to the edge of the box and bingo goal.
   Dieng pulled off a wonder save, and they hit the bar with him well beaten, and we also had chances Taylors full pitch  run down the middle, and Sadlier with a header he nearly got to could have resulted in us scoring, so the game was a decent one to watch, the away fans really getting behind Sunderland, on today's display they are as good a side as we have played all season, and as usual we look to have got a side on a bad run out of it.

 

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« Reply #77 on December 29, 2019, 06:27:40 pm by dickos1 »
The most concerning thing today was every second ball was picked up by a Sunderland player
And they presssd and harried us all over the pitch whereas our work rate levels weren’t anywhere near where they need to be
It’s forgivable to lose games especially by a better side but work and effort should never be lacking

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« Reply #78 on December 29, 2019, 06:29:10 pm by Chris Black come back »
The most concerning thing today was every second ball was picked up by a Sunderland player
And they presssd and harried us all over the pitch whereas our work rate levels weren’t anywhere near where they need to be
It’s forgivable to lose games especially by a better side but work and effort should never be lacking

I agree with this. Dieng, Taylor and Halliday (he was pulled down for their goal) and perhaps Anderson were only players who really looked the part.

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #79 on December 29, 2019, 06:32:22 pm by RedRover »
  Anybody would find it difficult to argue against the best team won today, we were second best all the game, Sunderland looking a very good side to me, as I didn't think we played that bad, just met a better side on the day. 

Seriously you can't have been to the Keepmoat today if that's your opinion.

monkeytennis

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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #80 on December 29, 2019, 06:42:28 pm by monkeytennis »
The most concerning thing today was every second ball was picked up by a Sunderland player
And they presssd and harried us all over the pitch whereas our work rate levels weren’t anywhere near where they need to be
It’s forgivable to lose games especially by a better side but work and effort should never be lacking

Agreed. Dieng, Taylor, Anderson and Halliday were the only players who looked to be properly up for it today.

I didn’t think they were that good tbh it’s just that we were quite poor. Too many mistakes, losing the ball and possession, and just not getting into them enough to make them wobble.

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« Reply #81 on December 29, 2019, 06:46:11 pm by dickos1 »
It’s unbelievable to think they hadn’t scored an away goal under Parkinson before today
They created 4 or 5 very good chances

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« Reply #82 on December 29, 2019, 06:46:32 pm by selby »
  RedRover, you are entitled to your opinion, I happen to think for our level ( the third level) that was a good well contested game, with two sides trying to win the game, not just pinch it, and on the day they were better than us.
  Myself I would have started Thomas, as the two games last season told me they are very physical especially in central defence, and prefer Sheaf to Gomes, Others disagreed with me after the Peterborough game.
  Having said that I think we would have beaten most teams we have played this season today, just came up against a team that had something to prove, and on the day probably played as well as they have all season.
  If we had played Wright and Anderson in the last ten games we would be at least five points better off, if not more.My opinion of course, you are entitled to yours.
 

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« Reply #83 on December 29, 2019, 08:27:50 pm by Campsall rover »
  RedRover, you are entitled to your opinion, I happen to think for our level ( the third level) that was a good well contested game, with two sides trying to win the game, not just pinch it, and on the day they were better than us.
  Myself I would have started Thomas, as the two games last season told me they are very physical especially in central defence, and prefer Sheaf to Gomes, Others disagreed with me after the Peterborough game.
  Having said that I think we would have beaten most teams we have played this season today, just came up against a team that had something to prove, and on the day probably played as well as they have all season.
  If we had played Wright and Anderson in the last ten games we would be at least five points better off, if not more.My opinion of course, you are entitled to yours.
 
Don’t always agree with Brian but yes we came across a Sunderland team who had a point to prove.
The knives were out for Parkinson before the match. He got his team fired up and yes I doubt they have played better than that all season. They may have been 15th in the league but they played like a team in the top 3/4.
We didn’t play badly, yes not as good as on Thursday but DF messed up with his tactical plan and gave us freedom on the flanks which they had no answer to. Also our midfield 3 of Whiteman, Gomes & Sheaf in a role at the front of the 3 which worked a treat. We dominated the ball.
Sunderland never gave us any space to play, closed us down with a solid press and forced us to go long when we wanted to play short.
Credit Sunderland if they play with that intensity every week they will reach the play offs.
Obviously they have not been playing like that in the last 2/3 months.

Credit where credit is due. THERE ARE ALWAYS TWO TEAMS PLAYING.

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« Reply #84 on December 29, 2019, 08:30:57 pm by dickos1 »
Moore got his tactics wrong today which of course can happen but then the worrying thing was when he could see it was all going wrong he didn’t do anything about it

Campsall rover

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« Reply #85 on December 29, 2019, 08:37:47 pm by Campsall rover »
Maybe Sheaf wasn’t 100% fit.
What was he supposed to do. Who else on the bench would have changed it.

It’s easy sat here but the reality is he didn’t have any game changing players on the bench.
Maybe we will in a couple of weeks.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2019, 10:09:08 am by Campsall rover »

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« Reply #86 on December 29, 2019, 08:42:25 pm by Donnywolf »
  RedRover, you are entitled to your opinion, I happen to think for our level ( the third level) that was a good well contested game, with two sides trying to win the game, not just pinch it, and on the day they were better than us.
  Myself I would have started Thomas, as the two games last season told me they are very physical especially in central defence, and prefer Sheaf to Gomes, Others disagreed with me after the Peterborough game.
  Having said that I think we would have beaten most teams we have played this season today, just came up against a team that had something to prove, and on the day probably played as well as they have all season.
  If we had played Wright and Anderson in the last ten games we would be at least five points better off, if not more.My opinion of course, you are entitled to yours.
 

Got to agree there Selby !

Great (or grate) game depending on who you supported. They did a number on us but of course we assisted with the short play from the Goal Kicks. Also Ref was wildly inconsistent

Sheaf v Gomes not really one to ponder on. Sheaf is better than Gomes now and will be destined for a long career probably somewhere better than us. I never slag our players off and I wont start now but Sheaf is / will be better than Madger G  now / in the future

I also think Thomas was a more physical presence but against those two Centre Backs he still would have struggled but he could have worn them down then Ennis could have been unleashed

How the hell have they not been beating "the likes of Teams" ? Obviously they have not been playing like that surely. On the other hand though we "only played as well as the opposition let us" we would have beaten 7 out of 10 teams

I am pig sick because again they did a number on us - and once again we kick started someones season - not scored recently - play us - cant win away - play us.

Entertaining game and pity we didnt get to sing "Sacked in the morning"

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« Reply #87 on December 29, 2019, 08:44:01 pm by drfchound »
Maybe Sheaf wasn’t 100% fit.
What was he supposed to do. Who else on the bench would have changed it.

It’s easy sat here but the reality is he didn’t have any game change
Ears on the bench.
Maybe we will in a couple of weeks.







As I said on another thread Campsall, we don’t have enough depth in the squad.
That is why we struggle when we have injuries (all teams get injuries) and the odd suspension.
That is why we are mid table and unlikely to be better than that this season.
For us to challenge at a higher level we have to bring in three or four players who are good enough to be regular staters.


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Re: Let's talk about the Sunderland game.
« Reply #88 on December 29, 2019, 08:45:13 pm by Filo »
Maybe Sheaf wasn’t 100% fit.
What was he supposed to do. Who else on the bench would have changed it.

It’s easy sat here but the reality is he didn’t have any game change
Ears on the bench.
Maybe we will in a couple of weeks.

I’m sure there were plenty of Ears on the bench 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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« Reply #89 on December 29, 2019, 09:19:19 pm by selby »
  It doesn't matter who we sign Filo. there are only so many seats in the dug out, so we can't increase the number of ears.

 

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