He died like a Dog!

[Sprotyrover]

 :bscarf:m General Suliemani got caught in Iraq without a Tourist visa

[BillyStubbsTears]

Hilarious. f**king hilarious. Doubtless you'll be laughing maniacally when innocent people die in the tit for tat that's going to go on from this. 

[Sprotyrover]

 Suleimani wasn't in Baghdad on a sightseeing tour, thank god Corbyn isn't PM!

[wilts rover]

Suleimani wasn't in Baghdad on a sightseeing tour, thank god Corbyn isn't PM!

Why would Trump have had to ask Corbyn's permission? Unlike Johnson who he never bothered to inform and had to find out from the tv.

Wonder what he thinks now as there is a British woman stuck in an Iranian jail due to his actions? What's going to happen to her? Not that you seem to care ...

[BillyStubbsTears]

What the flying f**k has Corbyn got to do with it? The UK Govt has already announced that it wasn't consulted or informed before this action. An action which significantly raised the threat to British forces.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Suleimani wasn't in Baghdad on a sightseeing tour, thank god Corbyn isn't PM!

But Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe is in Iran.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Plus.

How many dogs do you know who have been blown up by an AGM sanctioned by a lifetime criminal just entering election year in the certain knowledge that if he loses, he's finishing his days behind bars and so is trying to whip up jingoistic support among the more gullible?

[wilts rover]

Googles - can Trump cancel elections if US is at war?

https://www.quora.com/Could-Donald-Trump-cancel-the-2020-election

[Axholme Lion]

Bad move. Iran have done good work fighting IS, unlike our 'friends' in Saudi and EU wannabees Turkey who back IS.

[Sprotyrover]

The timing of the assassination was questioned last night as it has over shadowed the Democrats and their Impeachment agenda.
Read what you like into my Corbyn comment he is a nobody the sooner he gets lost in his Cabbage patch the better.

[Glyn_Wigley]

The timing of the assassination was questioned last night as it has over shadowed the Democrats and their Impeachment agenda.
Read what you like into my Corbyn comment he is a nobody the sooner he gets lost in his Cabbage patch the better.

Why? Boris did f**k all about him as well, and he IS PM.

[Donnywolf]

The timing of the assassination was questioned last night as it has over shadowed the Democrats and their Impeachment agenda.

Reminds me of the sinking of the Belgrano for those of a certain age

[BillyStubbsTears]

And here's the real reason for that strike.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213585005986959361

Trump's plan is to try to deflect attention from his impeachment by firing up jingoists who revel in seeing America spill foreign blood (like the British examples in here).

He's doing that by threatening to commit war crimes.

Go back and read that again.

Last night, the Leader of the Free World openly and publicly boasted that he's planning to commit war crimes.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/01/trump-tweets-threat-to-commit-war-crimes-in-iran.html?__twitter_impression=true

Do you care? Or is it just about winning?

PS.
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-03/how-trump-made-the-decision-to-kill-suleimani?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

Just...f**king...crazy...

[Sprotyrover]

And here's the real reason for that strike.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213585005986959361

Trump's plan is to try to deflect attention from his impeachment by firing up jingoists who revel in seeing America spill foreign blood (like the British examples in here).

He's doing that by threatening to commit war crimes.

Go back and read that again.

Last night, the Leader of the Free World openly and publicly boasted that he's planning to commit war crimes.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/01/trump-tweets-threat-to-commit-war-crimes-in-iran.html?__twitter_impression=true

Do you care? Or is it just about winning?

PS.
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-03/how-trump-made-the-decision-to-kill-suleimani?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

Just...f**king...crazy...

Seems it was part of an ongoing US operation against Iranian military influence in Syria and Iraq it was preceded by 5 US air strikes on Military sites operated by Iranian fighters in Syria and Iraq on Monday. Pentagon advisers presented a list of Targets to Rrump which included Sulemani as it seems they have done on many occasions in the past and they were surprisingly given the go ahead.
I very much doubt the US Military has selected targets which are of cultural or religious significance, I think you might see Sites linked to their Nuclear programme becoming big piles of Ash,that's the next step, take away their ability for serious retaliation.I'm of the opinion that they the US have taken this step to ensure Iran never becomes a nuclear power.

[Filo]

And here's the real reason for that strike.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213585005986959361

Trump's plan is to try to deflect attention from his impeachment by firing up jingoists who revel in seeing America spill foreign blood (like the British examples in here).

He's doing that by threatening to commit war crimes.

Go back and read that again.

Last night, the Leader of the Free World openly and publicly boasted that he's planning to commit war crimes.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/01/trump-tweets-threat-to-commit-war-crimes-in-iran.html?__twitter_impression=true

Do you care? Or is it just about winning?

PS.
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-03/how-trump-made-the-decision-to-kill-suleimani?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

Just...f**king...crazy...

Seems it was part of an ongoing US operation against Iranian military influence in Syria and Iraq it was preceded by 5 US air strikes on Military sites operated by Iranian fighters in Syria and Iraq on Monday. Pentagon advisers presented a list of Targets to Rrump which included Sulemani as it seems they have done on many occasions in the past and they were surprisingly given the go ahead.
I very much doubt the US Military has selected targets which are of cultural or religious significance, I think you might see Sites linked to their Nuclear programme becoming big piles of Ash,that's the next step, take away their ability for serious retaliation.I'm of the opinion that they the US have taken this step to ensure Iran never becomes a nuclear power.

In recent times it appears the US is the rouge state, there are not many states backing them lately

[ravenrover]

Who are the jaune or vert states please?

[Donnywolf]

I dont know but we are in a white state !

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sproty.

I'm sure the Pentagon hasn't chosen sites of cultural importance to bomb. That's because they know what the Hague Treaty says on the topic.

The point is that the Leader of the Free World unambiguously said that that was what they were doing.

You appear not to see the problem with that.

[Sprotyrover]

Sproty.

I'm sure the Pentagon hasn't chosen sites of cultural importance to bomb. That's because they know what the Hague Treaty says on the topic.

The point is that the Leader of the Free World unambiguously said that that was what they were doing.

You appear not to see the problem with that.

Well when he comes out with remarks like "He Died like a Dog" I find his latest stuff a bit muted for him!

[wilts rover]

And here's the real reason for that strike.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213585005986959361

Trump's plan is to try to deflect attention from his impeachment by firing up jingoists who revel in seeing America spill foreign blood (like the British examples in here).

He's doing that by threatening to commit war crimes.

Go back and read that again.

Last night, the Leader of the Free World openly and publicly boasted that he's planning to commit war crimes.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/01/trump-tweets-threat-to-commit-war-crimes-in-iran.html?__twitter_impression=true

Do you care? Or is it just about winning?

PS.
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-03/how-trump-made-the-decision-to-kill-suleimani?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

Just...f**king...crazy...

Seems it was part of an ongoing US operation against Iranian military influence in Syria and Iraq it was preceded by 5 US air strikes on Military sites operated by Iranian fighters in Syria and Iraq on Monday. Pentagon advisers presented a list of Targets to Rrump which included Sulemani as it seems they have done on many occasions in the past and they were surprisingly given the go ahead.
I very much doubt the US Military has selected targets which are of cultural or religious significance, I think you might see Sites linked to their Nuclear programme becoming big piles of Ash,that's the next step, take away their ability for serious retaliation.I'm of the opinion that they the US have taken this step to ensure Iran never becomes a nuclear power.

Which rather than reducing Iranian influence in Iraq appears to have had the opposite effect of reducing American influence thus strengthening Iran.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-news-live-trump-war-soleimani-death-bombing-attack-tensions-a9270856.html

[BillyStubbsTears]

You know that theory that evil people project their evil thoughts into predictions of the behaviour of others?

Look at this f**king gem. From 2011.

https://mobile.twitter.com/aenbaoui/status/1213074097112002565

[wilts rover]

You may remember the future Mrs Wilts Rover is American and is a bit more clued up on these things than I am.

She reminded me yesterday that there is a good percentage of Trumps main supporter base who actuall do want a war in the middle east - which will hopefully then lead to armageddon and the end of the world - so as to bring about the second coming of christ.

Yes really. These are the people the most powerful man in the world listens to:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42402350
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/11/trump-administration-evangelical-influence-support
https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?destination=%2fopinions%2f2019%2f08%2f14%2fevangelicals-view-trump-their-protector-will-they-stand-by-him%2f%3f

[SydneyRover]

The massive delay (in politial terms) for Raab to say 'we're on the same page' speaks volumes and suggests that they wern't in the same library and had to find a way of saying something without pissing off a trading partner in waiting. It's going to be fun being reliant on the US for trade. 

[BobG]

Y'know what I find confusing about American foreign policv? Under Obama as well this chump. everyone always said, and still do from time to time, that terrorists would not change the way we live. So how come an awful lot of the less thoughtful amongst us, politicians included, now applaud example after example of premeditated, acknowledged, murder by western 'democratic' states?

Some folk have lost their sense of reallty. And yes. The General Belgrano was another example of exactly the same. As was the Rainbow Warrior. It's not just the Yanks...

BobG

[BillyStubbsTears]

https://mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1213978867683209216

Here's an interesting one.

Nuremberg established the principle that "obeying orders" was not a defence against committing war crimes.

If Trump orders the US Forces to bomb Persepolis or Ishfahan, the service personnel have a right and in fact a duty to refuse to carry out that order.

[BillyStubbsTears]

But of course, evil coward that he is, Trump doesn't mean this. He just wants the idiots who support him to think he means it. And that is perhaps even scarier.

[Sandy Lane]

Overall, I think this is a disaster. If republicans actually listened to Trump’s rhetoric and opened their eyes to the lasting damage he has caused with this assassination, they should just remove him from office immediately. He is unpredictable, unprincipled, refuses to look at the big picture and in his rush to distract from his impeachment trial has done something we all knew would happen. Maybe it was not this scenario specifically, but something big and damaging. Perhaps if we remove him from office now it would calm the situation.  But I wonder if republicans would even do it for world peace.

This morning I see troops leaving the US and probably wondering if or when they will come back because Trump says he doesn’t need an exit strategy.

This is a disgrace and abomination.  I don’t believe for a minute this was done for the ‘greater good’.

[wing commander]

The timing of the assassination was questioned last night as it has over shadowed the Democrats and their Impeachment agenda.

Reminds me of the sinking of the Belgrano for those of a certain age

Don't agree with that for one second Wolf..Argentina was the aggressor in that situation and Belgrano was a threat to our forces..She was rightly sunk and that resulted in the Argentine Navy never leaving Port for the duration..No doubt Saving British lives...

[wing commander]

   I'm going to be honest and say I struggle to have an actual opinion on this.There is no doubt that he was a tyrant responsible for ordering attacks that led to the deaths of many people including allied servicemen..And that's before the torture,abductions etc etc..People are quick to jump on the Trump hating,quickly presuming that his own ends was why he ordered this attack..Yet nobody knows what intelligence they had or what he was planning...Some of you are just happy to presume as long as it supports your own point of view..

That said sometimes decisions have to be made on what's best for the balance of world peace and was this the right thing to do??? I couldn't say..

[selby]

  Anyone holding BP shares this morning will be happy anyway.  And does anyone really think that it was Trump and Trump only that made this decision.
  It sends out a message that it doesn't matter who you are now, or where you are, the US can take you out.
  I  think that was the main thrust of this subject, a little just watch it, or else.