Permanent Signings

[IDM]

We have “lost” two loans recently so we could take two or more loanees..

For the squad, that is..

[vaya]

Overall squad, or match day squad?

What would be the point in having 7/8 loan players when only 5 can be used?

Haven't you questioned the size of the squad overall?

[IDM]

Overall squad, or match day squad?

What would be the point in having 7/8 loan players when only 5 can be used?

Same as why you have more players in the squad - injuries, suspensions, lack of form..

Not saying we should have 7/8 loanees though..

[Campsall rover]

There is no issue whatsoever with signing loan players, non at all.
But our squad needs strengthening and we can only add one player to the squad if we only sign loans.
So by default we can’t only sign loan players in jan as this would mean we’re only signing one player which is obviously nowhere near enough

Yes, of course we are limited to the number of loans so, we will always require a core of contracted players however, as said before, if DM sees fit to utilise the loan system to the max by acquiring players of better quality and for less than it would by permanent signings, then that should be fine by everyone. Yes, we hope to see some evidence of maybe both in the not too distant future. DM knows he will have to manage contracts short term and long term. If he thinks he can manage recruitment in the summer using the same principles who are we to judge other than what we see on the pitch.

What makes my blood boil is comments like one I saw on a tweet from Liam Hoden when he was updating about Idah, someone said "We don't want another loan. We want the board to back the manager with permanent signings".

It's an obsession with some. If we're not buying players for published fees then the board can't be backing the manager inferring the board are not spending enough of their wealth. I just wish people would engage brain before posting these things.

Your asking a lot with that last line DBR.

This “the board are not backing the manager” line has been going on for years.
The no of loans has increased this season and that line has got louder and louder and louder.
Loan players come free don’t they. Cheap option. Oh dear oh dear, i just don’t think some people will ever get it will they. There are some of course that don’t want to get it. They just take great joy at slagging our board off at every opportunity.
Some of us DBR are just banging our heads against a brick wall.

[dickos1]

There is no issue whatsoever with signing loan players, non at all.
But our squad needs strengthening and we can only add one player to the squad if we only sign loans.
So by default we can’t only sign loan players in jan as this would mean we’re only signing one player which is obviously nowhere near enough

Yes, of course we are limited to the number of loans so, we will always require a core of contracted players however, as said before, if DM sees fit to utilise the loan system to the max by acquiring players of better quality and for less than it would by permanent signings, then that should be fine by everyone. Yes, we hope to see some evidence of maybe both in the not too distant future. DM knows he will have to manage contracts short term and long term. If he thinks he can manage recruitment in the summer using the same principles who are we to judge other than what we see on the pitch.

What makes my blood boil is comments like one I saw on a tweet from Liam Hoden when he was updating about Idah, someone said "We don't want another loan. We want the board to back the manager with permanent signings".

It's an obsession with some. If we're not buying players for published fees then the board can't be backing the manager inferring the board are not spending enough of their wealth. I just wish people would engage brain before posting these things.

Your asking a lot with that last line DBR.

This “the board are not backing the manager” line has been going on for years.
The no of loans has increased this season and that line has got louder and louder and louder.
Loan players come free don’t they. Cheap option. Oh dear oh dear, i just don’t think some people will ever get it will they. There are some of course that don’t want to get it. They just take great joy at slagging our board off at every opportunity.
Some of us DBR are just banging our heads against a brick wall.

Just said there’s nothing wrong with signing loan players. But we need more than one player in January don’t we?

[dickos1]

Overall squad, or match day squad?

What would be the point in having 7/8 loan players when only 5 can be used?

Haven't you questioned the size of the squad overall?

No,
I questioned the number of contracted players in our squad.

Do keep up

[vaya]

Overall squad, or match day squad?

What would be the point in having 7/8 loan players when only 5 can be used?

Haven't you questioned the size of the squad overall?

No,
I questioned the number of contracted players in our squad.

Do keep up

In the past few days you've described the squad as 'weak' and 'threadbare' and gone to some length to argue it was a mistake to let May go prior to replacing him. No caveats about these comments being limited to contracted players.

[drfchound]

Too many posters are sounding like prosecution lawyers these days, putting their case forward.

[IDM]

Overall squad, or match day squad?

What would be the point in having 7/8 loan players when only 5 can be used?

Haven't you questioned the size of the squad overall?

No,
I questioned the number of contracted players in our squad.

Do keep up

The other day.? When you counted 10/11 when it is actually 16/17.?

[dickos1]

Overall squad, or match day squad?

What would be the point in having 7/8 loan players when only 5 can be used?

Haven't you questioned the size of the squad overall?

No,
I questioned the number of contracted players in our squad.

Do keep up

The other day.? When you counted 10/11 when it is actually 16/17.?

Yes, we weren’t discussing the squad size overall were we, which is the point your mate is making

[IDM]

My mate.?

And no, your count of contracted players was blatantly wrong..

[dickos1]

Too many posters are sounding like prosecution lawyers these days, putting their case forward.

Exactly hound, some odd folk on here. Only ever ask questions of other posts and never push forward their own views.

[vaya]

Overall squad, or match day squad?

What would be the point in having 7/8 loan players when only 5 can be used?

Haven't you questioned the size of the squad overall?

No,
I questioned the number of contracted players in our squad.

Do keep up

The other day.? When you counted 10/11 when it is actually 16/17.?

Yes, we weren’t discussing the squad size overall were we, which is the point your mate is making

So are you happy with the squad size overall then? Sufficient competition for places as it stands?

[dickos1]

My mate.?

And no, your count of contracted players was blatantly wrong..

Thankyou,
As I just stated our discussion was regarding contracted players on our squad. But your mate is suggesting I was talking about the numbers in the squad overall

[IDM]

Too many posters are sounding like prosecution lawyers these days, putting their case forward.

Exactly hound, some odd folk on here. Only ever ask questions of other posts and never push forward their own views.

Even worse, those who claim things to be facts which are either blatantly wrong or opinions only..

[dickos1]

Overall squad, or match day squad?

What would be the point in having 7/8 loan players when only 5 can be used?

Haven't you questioned the size of the squad overall?

No,
I questioned the number of contracted players in our squad.

Do keep up

The other day.? When you counted 10/11 when it is actually 16/17.?

Yes, we weren’t discussing the squad size overall were we, which is the point your mate is making

So are you happy with the squad size overall then? Sufficient competition for places as it stands?

Of course not,
Signing 4 players on loan when we can only play one of them isn’t really going to help that situation though is it?

[IDM]

My mate.?

And no, your count of contracted players was blatantly wrong..

Thankyou,
As I just stated our discussion was regarding contracted players on our squad. But your mate is suggesting I was talking about the numbers in the squad overall

My mate.?

[vaya]

Overall squad, or match day squad?

What would be the point in having 7/8 loan players when only 5 can be used?

Haven't you questioned the size of the squad overall?

No,
I questioned the number of contracted players in our squad.

Do keep up

The other day.? When you counted 10/11 when it is actually 16/17.?

Yes, we weren’t discussing the squad size overall were we, which is the point your mate is making

So are you happy with the squad size overall then? Sufficient competition for places as it stands?

Of course not
 

Thank you.

[dickos1]

Too many posters are sounding like prosecution lawyers these days, putting their case forward.

Exactly hound, some odd folk on here. Only ever ask questions of other posts and never push forward their own views.

Even worse, those who claim things to be facts which are either blatantly wrong or opinions only..

Please stop bringing up arguments from days and weeks ago.

I said 10/11, your other mate said 11/12 and you said 16/17.

I can comfortably state we only have 10/11 contracted players who are capable of playing league 1 football.

[dickos1]

Overall squad, or match day squad?

What would be the point in having 7/8 loan players when only 5 can be used?

Haven't you questioned the size of the squad overall?

No,
I questioned the number of contracted players in our squad.

Do keep up

The other day.? When you counted 10/11 when it is actually 16/17.?

Yes, we weren’t discussing the squad size overall were we, which is the point your mate is making

So are you happy with the squad size overall then? Sufficient competition for places as it stands?

Of course not
 

Thank you.

I’m delighted I can help in overcoming your confusion

[IDM]

Too many posters are sounding like prosecution lawyers these days, putting their case forward.

Exactly hound, some odd folk on here. Only ever ask questions of other posts and never push forward their own views.

Even worse, those who claim things to be facts which are either blatantly wrong or opinions only..

Please stop bringing up arguments from days and weeks ago.

I said 10/11, your other mate said 11/12 and you said 16/17.

I can comfortably state we only have 10/11 contracted players who are capable of playing league 1 football.

Your original point the other day was quantity not quality.  You’re back tracking..

You are allowed to be wrong..

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[Nudga]

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From the same three of four people, arguing over the same stuff on three or four threads.
Unreal.
Put your phones down for a night fellas.

[IDM]

Sorry folks, it’s easy to get drawn in when certain things get said on here..

[sedwardsdrfc]

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From the same three of four people, arguing over the same stuff on three or four threads.
Unreal.
Put your phones down for a night fellas.

This is so true every time signings or budget is mentioned it's inevitable that the thread will end up in point scoring and over the top fact checking/microscopic checking of old posts for contradictions. People maybe enjoy it (they must to do it so often)

[Campsall rover]

It’s like a kindergarten on here.
Unfortunately there is one person who will never ever admit he is wrong about anything. He has to get the last word in and winds 3 or 4 of us to such a degree that we are all stupid enough to get drawn.
I am trying to keep well out of it. It’s just so repetitively boring and as some have said is not welcome and spoiling it for others.

Why some posts always end up with this tit for tat is really quite childish.
I have been guilty as i said in allowing myself to get involved.
I keep saying i won’t and keep getting drawn. Sorry.

From now on can we all try to behave like adults and just simply get behind the Club we all portray to support.

Come on everyone let’s make this forum something we should all be proud to be part of. Can we please.
We should be better than this.

[IDM]

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From the same three of four people, arguing over the same stuff on three or four threads.
Unreal.
Put your phones down for a night fellas.

This is so true every time signings or budget is mentioned it's inevitable that the thread will end up in point scoring and over the top fact checking/microscopic checking of old posts for contradictions. People maybe enjoy it (they must to do it so often)

I take no pleasure at all from these kind of debates but I get irked by the repetitive direct and indirect digs at the club.

The club isn’t perfect, individuals will make mistakes and in retrospect bad decisions,  but a lot of issues are bad luck or beyond our control such as Sterling and Idah, and good players performing below expectations.  Exaggerations, impatience, and jumping to conclusions are all too rife.

That’s why I get involved, to try and counter where necessary, to try and counter what I see as rash or unjustified posts - without resorting to personal stuff or insults - and yes, it can spiral out of hand so I apologise for letting that happen..

At least we have a football match tomorrow to look forward to..

[Filo]

I said it earlier, some people argue because of who the poster is, the point of the thread becomes irrelevant when trying to score points or belittle the other person, it’s boring and it’s certainly pissing folk off

[dickos1]

I said it earlier, some people argue because of who the poster is, the point of the thread becomes irrelevant when trying to score points or belittle the other person, it’s boring and it’s certainly pissing folk off

I do agree with this, whatever I post I can guarantee one of three people will start having a go at me.

I’ve had many people message me and ask me also in person who these people are and if I know them but I’ve never met them in my life. So I don’t know the issue.

2 years ago campsall was amongst the most negative posters on this forum and now anyone who says a bad word against the club gets it full barrel just because he’s changed his tune.

Anyhow I agree, it’s childish and boring for others.
I think people should be allowed their opinion without being told they don’t have a brain etc.

 

[Campsall rover]

I said it earlier, some people argue because of who the poster is, the point of the thread becomes irrelevant when trying to score points or belittle the other person, it’s boring and it’s certainly pissing folk off

I do agree with this, whatever I post I can guarantee one of three people will start having a go at me.

I’ve had many people message me and ask me also in person who these people are and if I know them but I’ve never met them in my life. So I don’t know the issue.

2 years ago campsall was amongst the most negative posters on this forum and now anyone who says a bad word against the club gets it full barrel just because he’s changed his tune.

Anyhow I agree, it’s childish and boring for others.
I think people should be allowed their opinion without being told they don’t have a brain etc.

When was i negative about the club 2 years ago. Negative about DF blowing the league title yes i was. Never about the club. Never.
Evidence please.

I thought we were going to stop this, but here you go starting an argument by posting something which is a blatant lie.
Last word again. You are the one having a go at 4 of us and you can’t see it.

Are you going to call a cease fire or not. Enough is enough don’t you think.

End of. End of. End of.  OK