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Metalmicky

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #10590 on March 29, 2021, 05:26:04 pm by Metalmicky »
Is it time for Boris to invest in an Alice band.....?   and not because he is in Wonderland



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selby

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« Reply #10591 on March 29, 2021, 05:47:25 pm by selby »
  He has done better than that another vaccine is going to be manufactured and produced in the North East of England.

Filo

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« Reply #10592 on March 29, 2021, 06:03:05 pm by Filo »
  He has done better than that another vaccine is going to be manufactured and produced in the North East of England.

As well as Spain, Portugal and Canada

ravenrover

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« Reply #10593 on March 29, 2021, 06:29:16 pm by ravenrover »
  He has done better than that another vaccine is going to be manufactured and produced in the North East of England.
What's that got to do with him?


wilts rover

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« Reply #10595 on March 29, 2021, 08:33:35 pm by wilts rover »
  He has done better than that another vaccine is going to be manufactured and produced in the North East of England.

Vaccine nationalism - are you going to ask to have yours redone in case you got the 'foreign one'...

selby

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« Reply #10596 on March 29, 2021, 08:59:02 pm by selby »
  Your a good egg Wilts, what will you do wait until all Paris is vaccinated  just to be fair?  If you want it doing this year though pick another city.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #10597 on March 31, 2021, 06:45:37 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1377263367346356225

Just...f**king...words.

Is he actually saying that by September last year, he didn't understand that delaying lockdown wouldn't help the economy? Anyone who spent any time thinking about this at the time knew damn f**king well that delaying lockdown could only mena more cases, and an eventual lockdown from a higher level that would a) kill more people and b) take much, MUCH longer to get under control, thus causing far worse economic damage.

I don't know which is the more shocking - that Sunak truly believes what he is saying, or he doesn't realise how plainly he is openly admitting that he is unfit for high office.

In a normally functioning democracy, this would dominate the political agenda for days. As it is, we don't seem to give much of a f**k that the decision that he pushed through has killed 50,000 people and cost us maybe £0.25trn in economic damage.

drfchound

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« Reply #10598 on March 31, 2021, 10:01:33 pm by drfchound »
Some posts have gone missing from this thread.

bobjimwilly

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« Reply #10599 on March 31, 2021, 10:01:46 pm by bobjimwilly »
most people in my circle of friends, even now we are all approaching 40, just don't give a f**k about politics. These sorts of comments by ministers and the PM are scandalous, yet they know no-one gives a f**k, and it's scary what they can get away with.

Just yesterday Johnson was exposed for cheating on his dying wife and giving his mistress over £100 million from the public purse, and it's not even covered by the BBC or ITV news?

Forum Admin

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« Reply #10600 on March 31, 2021, 10:03:11 pm by Forum Admin »
Some posts have gone missing from this thread.

we're cracking down on posts that are turning public threads into personal arguments, that's all.

drfchound

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« Reply #10601 on March 31, 2021, 10:04:48 pm by drfchound »
Some posts have gone missing from this thread.

we're cracking down on posts that are turning public threads into personal arguments, that's all.





Good.

belton rover

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« Reply #10602 on March 31, 2021, 10:07:44 pm by belton rover »
Who decides what constitutes a personal argument?

Forum Admin

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« Reply #10603 on March 31, 2021, 10:17:44 pm by Forum Admin »
Who decides what constitutes a personal argument?

not you

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #10604 on March 31, 2021, 10:20:01 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Are you suggesting it won't be a neutral arbitration, Belton?

Wash your mouth out!  :laugh:

belton rover

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« Reply #10605 on March 31, 2021, 10:22:24 pm by belton rover »
Admin. That sounds like a provocative post aimed at creating a personal argument.

It was quite a reasonable question.

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #10606 on March 31, 2021, 10:25:53 pm by Bentley Bullet »
A happy forum is a unanimous one!

Nudga

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« Reply #10607 on April 01, 2021, 07:26:49 am by Nudga »

River Don

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« Reply #10608 on April 01, 2021, 01:04:00 pm by River Don »
https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1377263367346356225

Just...f**king...words.

Is he actually saying that by September last year, he didn't understand that delaying lockdown wouldn't help the economy? Anyone who spent any time thinking about this at the time knew damn f**king well that delaying lockdown could only mena more cases, and an eventual lockdown from a higher level that would a) kill more people and b) take much, MUCH longer to get under control, thus causing far worse economic damage.

I don't know which is the more shocking - that Sunak truly believes what he is saying, or he doesn't realise how plainly he is openly admitting that he is unfit for high office.

In a normally functioning democracy, this would dominate the political agenda for days. As it is, we don't seem to give much of a f**k that the decision that he pushed through has killed 50,000 people and cost us maybe £0.25trn in economic damage.

His interview on the news last night was painful. He sort of accepted he made the wrong decisions but not really because nobody could know... He didn't accept that he'd pushed for the wrong approach (though it was widely reported he did) and then blamed Johnson three times for making the wrong choices. He looked like a guilty puppy throughout. A Prime Minister in waiting? Christ.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #10609 on April 01, 2021, 03:03:32 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
RD.
It was widely reported and never denied, that he brought in the three lockdown deniers in chief to meet Johnson (Gupta, Tegnell and Heneghan).

It is certainly true that
a) After that reported meeting, Johnson chose not to lockdown.
b) The SAGE guidance was strongly for a lockdown.
c) Cases continued going up rapidly.
d) Heneghan fired out a series of increasingly divorced from reality tweets and articles about lockdowns and other interventions, culminating in one that so directly misrepresented the established scientific facts that it really ought to have been a career-ender.

Circumstantial evidence suggests that that meeting did occur, and that Heneghan, having got his way, was under massive stress to paint black as white as the second wave got out if control. And the fact that Sunak has never once denied the reports that he organised the meeting...draw your own conclusions.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #10610 on April 01, 2021, 03:18:21 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Some posts have gone missing from this thread.

we're cracking down on posts that are turning public threads into personal arguments, that's all.
Good call. I'll do my best to not start anything you need to take action on.

belton rover

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« Reply #10611 on April 01, 2021, 03:57:54 pm by belton rover »
I think he’ll make a good PM. Certainly better than what we’ve got now and better then anyone I can think from from another party.

Billy. What’s a lockdown denier? I don’t think I’ve come across that phrase before.

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #10612 on April 01, 2021, 04:07:45 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I thought lockdown deniers were special tights worn in lockdown.

idler

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« Reply #10613 on April 01, 2021, 05:39:06 pm by idler »
I you don’t agree with BST is it not better to provide a fact rather than a jibe or a silly answer?
I say this as someone that has seen four relatives suffer the Corona virus to varying degrees and this is a general question rather than aimed at just one individual.

belton rover

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« Reply #10614 on April 01, 2021, 05:48:14 pm by belton rover »
Forgive me, Idler - do you mean my post?

idler

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« Reply #10615 on April 01, 2021, 05:52:36 pm by idler »
I mean all posts that rather than addressing any data or point raised by him is just ridiculed rather than countered by evidence to the contrary Belton.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #10616 on April 01, 2021, 05:55:34 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Belton.
It's a shorthand term in a quickly written post to describe people who have repeatedly denied the need to have lockdowns and denied the efficacy of lockdowns working to suppress the virus.

Those three have a year long record of that sort of behaviour.

Those three were brought in to persuade the PM not to follow the consensus scientific advice on lokcdown last September.

That decision led directly to us having the worst second/third wave of any large European country.

But yeah. Sunak would make a great PM.

belton rover

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« Reply #10617 on April 01, 2021, 06:09:45 pm by belton rover »
Not all posts need to be counter argued with evidence. I gave my personal opinion of the politician in question and asked what a phrase I’d never heard of meant (after googling it with no success). Thanks to Billy’s reply, I now know what he meant by it.

wilts rover

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« Reply #10618 on April 01, 2021, 06:13:28 pm by wilts rover »
What is it about a millionaire who refuses to disclose where his investments are, in his previous job was a partner in one of  the hedge funds which literally started the financial crash and has shown as chancellor that he priortises business wealth over working people's health, that people think he will make a good PM?

drfchound

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« Reply #10619 on April 01, 2021, 06:16:22 pm by drfchound »
Sorry to interject, but didn’t BST say that he considered Sunak might make a good PM.

 

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