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albie

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ravenrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #10711 on April 13, 2021, 02:55:55 pm by ravenrover »
We booked both ours at the same time, 2nd one for both of us 2nd May AZ vaccine

drfchound

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #10712 on April 13, 2021, 03:01:55 pm by drfchound »

Filo

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #10713 on April 13, 2021, 03:24:19 pm by Filo »
From the horse's mouth;
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain/uks-johnson-warns-lockdown-not-vaccines-behind-drop-in-covid-deaths-idUSKBN2C00PZ?rpc=401

Go careful, everyone!

In my opinion that is Johnson playing Politics, trying to take the credit rather than acknowledge the Vaccination programme has been a great success

Not Now Kato

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #10714 on April 13, 2021, 03:25:37 pm by Not Now Kato »

Axholme Lion

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« Reply #10715 on April 13, 2021, 03:33:37 pm by Axholme Lion »
Meanwhile, yet another appalling article by Heneghan in The Spectator this weekend, suggesting, wrongly  that 10s of thousands of excess deaths have been caused by lockdown. I really don't understand what stunt the right wing media are trying to pull on this issue. And the fact that Sunak dragged Heneghan into Downing Street to convince Johnson to ignore SAGE on the circuit breaker last September is looking more and more like a shocking error.

https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/371/bmj.m4074.full.pdf


What about all the people who have missed out on cancer diagnosis in time to save their lives because the NHS shut up shop?

Dentists are always banging on about how important regular check ups are in relation to general health, but all of a sudden they don't want to know. I suppose my dentist will get back in touch with me when it's time for him to renew his Range Rover.
Not sure what point you're making AL.

Obviously there will be knock on health issues (positive as well as negative) from lockdown.

My point about Heneghan's article is that he was strongly implying that there have been many tens of thousands of additional, non-COVID related deaths due to lockdown.

There haven't. Full stop. For him to imply that, and for The Spectator to publish that is nothing short of disgusting.

PS. They have edited the article to water down that implication slightly, so they know they have gone over the line. But they haven't apologised for the original. Just quietly changed it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1380912308512288769

bpoolrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #10716 on April 13, 2021, 05:23:02 pm by bpoolrover »

SydneyRover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #10717 on April 13, 2021, 11:08:06 pm by SydneyRover »
''Boris Johnson’s government has been accused of corruption, privatising the NHS by stealth, operating a “chumocracy” and mishandling the pandemic and climate crisis, by Sir David King, a former government chief scientist.

King contrasted the success of the vaccination programme, carried out by the NHS, with the failure of the government’s test-and-trace operation, which has been contracted out to private companies''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/13/tories-accused-of-corruption-and-nhs-privatisation-by-former-chief-scientist


Metalmicky

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« Reply #10719 on April 14, 2021, 10:35:11 am by Metalmicky »
There will be some scary numbers to come from India yet. A country with a poor health system, millions living in poverty and third world living conditions. Hospitals already overwhelmed. We may never know the actual devastation the virus will wreak here.

And yet they still gather in their thousands for religious festivals... after recording over 150,000 new cases on each of the last two days

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-56713993

Hundreds test positive for Covid at Kumbh Mela...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-56742231

wilts rover

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« Reply #10720 on April 18, 2021, 10:48:40 am by wilts rover »
As a result of working countless hours attempting to keep seriously ill patients alive in a pandemic, and then running the UK's vaccine progamme, NHS staff are recieving a 1% pay rise (real terms pay cut).

As a result of running the UK's failed £37 billion Test & Trace system the chief executive of Serco will recieve a bonus of £4.9 million.

Cronyism and capitalism eh, makes you proud to be British...

https://twitter.com/ReicherStephen/status/1383692228590137350

SydneyRover

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« Reply #10721 on April 18, 2021, 01:25:25 pm by SydneyRover »
As a result of working countless hours attempting to keep seriously ill patients alive in a pandemic, and then running the UK's vaccine progamme, NHS staff are recieving a 1% pay rise (real terms pay cut).

As a result of running the UK's failed £37 billion Test & Trace system the chief executive of Serco will recieve a bonus of £4.9 million.

Cronyism and capitalism eh, makes you proud to be British...

https://twitter.com/ReicherStephen/status/1383692228590137350

Who could be so mealy mouthed to begrudge nurses a decent pay rise after all they have done?

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #10722 on April 18, 2021, 02:20:29 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Skippy, wouldn't it have been easy for the government to give NHS staff a 'decent' pay rise, especially when it's not them paying for it! Their 'generosity' would have been really paid for by the likes of me and thee, and all other taxpayers living in the UK.

Oh, hang on a minute......

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #10723 on April 18, 2021, 05:17:19 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
BB

No. It wouldn't. Sunak would tell you that's where the money would come from, but it's not.

bpoolrover

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« Reply #10724 on April 18, 2021, 05:21:42 pm by bpoolrover »
Out of interest why does no one ever ask for care workers to get a pay rise, many care homes charge a fortune to be there and the vast majority of care workers only get minimum wage?

wilts rover

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« Reply #10725 on April 18, 2021, 06:46:28 pm by wilts rover »
Out of interest why does no one ever ask for care workers to get a pay rise, many care homes charge a fortune to be there and the vast majority of care workers only get minimum wage?

Boris Johnson has a plan for that. Ready to go, he said when he took over in July 2019.

You don't think he was, err lying to us do you...

SydneyRover

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« Reply #10726 on April 18, 2021, 10:21:44 pm by SydneyRover »
Skippy, wouldn't it have been easy for the government to give NHS staff a 'decent' pay rise, especially when it's not them paying for it! Their 'generosity' would have been really paid for by the likes of me and thee, and all other taxpayers living in the UK.

Oh, hang on a minute......

Simon, this attitude tells those that deserve or just need or want will use opportunity next time and ask/demand a pay rise when they are in a better position,

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #10727 on April 18, 2021, 10:25:57 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Que?

SydneyRover

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« Reply #10728 on April 18, 2021, 10:28:20 pm by SydneyRover »
mealy mouth Simon or commit to give the nurses a pay rise?

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #10729 on April 18, 2021, 11:00:38 pm by Bentley Bullet »
The easiest thing in the world would have been to give the NHS staff a bigger pay rise. I'm sure your great leader Starmer would have done so if only to make a name for himself as Mr Generous, despite it being someone else's money he'd have used to pay for it.

You see, or more to the point you fail to see, there's more to politics than making decisions in order to pacify persistent whingers like you, who would never be appeased by anything a Tory government did anyway.

I believe NHS staff will get their reward when the time is right, and that will be when the government feel the financial climate has sufficiently recovered from the pandemic. if that's at the cost of popularity from people who they've never been popular with anyway so be it.

bpoolrover

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« Reply #10730 on April 18, 2021, 11:17:16 pm by bpoolrover »
Out of interest why does no one ever ask for care workers to get a pay rise, many care homes charge a fortune to be there and the vast majority of care workers only get minimum wage?

Boris Johnson has a plan for that. Ready to go, he said when he took over in July 2019.

You don't think he was, err lying to us do you...
what did he say I never saw it?

SydneyRover

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« Reply #10731 on April 18, 2021, 11:21:48 pm by SydneyRover »
The easiest thing in the world would have been to give the NHS staff a bigger pay rise. I'm sure your great leader Starmer would have done so if only to make a name for himself as Mr Generous, despite it being someone else's money he'd have used to pay for it.

You see, or more to the point you fail to see, there's more to politics than making decisions in order to pacify persistent whingers like you, who would never be appeased by anything a Tory government did anyway.

I believe NHS staff will get their reward when the time is right, and that will be when the government feel the financial climate has sufficiently recovered from the pandemic. if that's at the cost of popularity from people who they've never been popular with anyway so be it.

Well Simon I suppose it's how good your memory is aye?

''COVID-19: remembering the nursing staff who have lost their lives''

https://rcni.com/nursing-standard/features/covid-19-remembering-nursing-staff-who-have-lost-their-lives-160011

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #10732 on April 18, 2021, 11:30:03 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Who's saying the governments forgot the nursing staff who have lost their lives, other than you?

SydneyRover

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« Reply #10733 on April 18, 2021, 11:34:02 pm by SydneyRover »
I'm talking about you Simon, the people employ the government don't they Mr memory man

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #10734 on April 18, 2021, 11:40:04 pm by Bentley Bullet »
You seem to have a problem with the people employing the government when it's not your choice, don't you Skippy?

By the way, do you have a vote living on the other side of the planet?

SydneyRover

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« Reply #10735 on April 19, 2021, 12:02:34 am by SydneyRover »
remind me which planet you live on Simon

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #10736 on April 19, 2021, 12:06:21 am by Bentley Bullet »
Top of the world, Skippy. You?

SydneyRover

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« Reply #10737 on April 19, 2021, 09:13:35 am by SydneyRover »
I did science and astronomy at school so top of the world too

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #10738 on April 19, 2021, 09:17:07 am by Bentley Bullet »
As you're talking past tense I assume you've now left school. Maybe it's time for you to remove your head from the clouds then.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #10739 on April 19, 2021, 09:18:26 am by SydneyRover »
nothing get past you bb, sharpest tool in the shed  :)

 

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