Coronavirus

[drfchound]

BB, why do you think that some posters write “aye” when they are trying to get something over to another poster.

[River Don]

Right BB,

When they were around and both political parties were deemed vote worthy, they were floating voters then?

[SydneyRover]

If you mean my parents my dad died in 1993 and my mum in 2000 so that was back in the days when all parties were voteworthy in some respects. I strongly suspect they would opt for a Tory vote as opposed to Labour now because they would highly likely deem the latter as not vote worthy.

My guess is that you keep this phoney 'war' up with lefties and labour cos your too embarrassed to say why love the tories

[BillyStubbsTears]

Good luck RD. I can see where this is going.

[Bentley Bullet]

Right BB,

When they were around and both political parties were deemed vote worthy, they were floating voters then?

They did vote when holidaying on the Norfolk Broads  once, I believe.

[Bentley Bullet]

If you mean my parents my dad died in 1993 and my mum in 2000 so that was back in the days when all parties were voteworthy in some respects. I strongly suspect they would opt for a Tory vote as opposed to Labour now because they would highly likely deem the latter as not vote worthy.

My guess is that you keep this phoney 'war' up with lefties and labour cos your too embarrassed to say why love the tories

Who gives a Castlemaine XXXX what your guess is?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Presented without comment. On account of me being lost for words.

https://mobile.twitter.com/lisataljard/status/1405547919890169863

[wilts rover]

You know these hotels where people are sent to quarantine after arriving from red list countries. Where do you think the government has booked them. Near ports, airports - or in town & city centre miles away from either:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-57515332

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

You know these hotels where people are sent to quarantine after arriving from red list countries. Where do you think the government has booked them. Near ports, airports - or in town & city centre miles away from either:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-57515332

Same in other countries aswell. One of the hotel's we stayed in New Zealand is now a full on quarantine hotel. Not s 5 star place by any means but was decent.  Right in Auckland city centre.

Saw online the food there fairly similar to BST link..no doubt some hotels are providing far below the standard in many countries. Though plenty are probably doing a good job.

[Nudga]

Did the G7 mafia isolate for 10 days I wonder?

[SydneyRover]

If you mean my parents my dad died in 1993 and my mum in 2000 so that was back in the days when all parties were voteworthy in some respects. I strongly suspect they would opt for a Tory vote as opposed to Labour now because they would highly likely deem the latter as not vote worthy.

My guess is that you keep this phoney 'war' up with lefties and labour cos your too embarrassed to say why love the tories

Who gives a Castlemaine XXXX what your guess is?

looks like I hit the spot

[wilts rover]

Did the G7 mafia isolate for 10 days I wonder?

In other news, cases rise 2450% (yes 2450%) in Cornwall following G7 summit. Absolutely no issues in relaxing social disancing rules for large events then.

https://inews.co.uk/news/g7-summit-was-super-spreading-event-for-cornwall-as-cases-rocket-2450-after-johnson-and-biden-visit-1060710

[auckleyflyer]

Wilts, living down in Cornwall it's the small population and space to carry-on as normal with good social distancing
. The post Easter quadrupling of the population here on holibobs doing as they want that's taken the rate up to normal UK levels. So yes a 2450% rise but from a tiny bsae level.
I worked on the G7 (Newquay airport air traffic) the site and those in st Ives, Falmouth and carbis bay were all covid safe events where all staff, security, police and international agencies had to provide daily tests results before obtaining passes + 3tests the week before! G7 was a successful test of large scale events I'd say?

[wilts rover]

Sorry AuckleyF but now I am even more worried. If you can see a 2450% rise in cases after holding a covid safe event, imagine what it would be like where enforcement is not so strict!

The idea of these test events is to demonstrate you have have large gatherings of people without seeing a covid spike.

[auckleyflyer]

Thats it wilts, it's not G7 but the holiday season that's brought it to UK levels.

[bpoolrover]

It's the same in Blackpool and the fylde, the numbers got down to 10 per 100k now since the better weather and more people coming here it's over 200

[auckleyflyer]

Anyhow wilts it's only a week today that the 4day G7 finished, not enough time for the effects to be measured?!
Purley the result of the tourist season

[BillyStubbsTears]

So it looks like we can put to bed the misinformation that the death rate from COVID would be down at 0.1% or lower of those infected, as some of the sceptics have been pushing.

Already in Brazil, 0.25% of THE ENTIRE POPULATION have died from COVID.

[DonnyNoel]

So it looks like we can put to bed the misinformation that the death rate from COVID would be down at 0.1% or lower of those infected, as some of the sceptics have been pushing.

Already in Brazil, 0.25% of THE ENTIRE POPULATION have died from COVID.

Surely there's going to be some geographical/demogaphical skew to that figure though? Brazil had a borderline covid-denying leader and sadly once Covid got into the Favelas it was always going to have a disastrous effect. Could there be some countries at the other end of the scale (eg New Zealand) that will bring that down? Although there's certainly a sizeable difference in population overall between those two.

[BillyStubbsTears]

At bottom DN, all that really matters is how many people catch the virus and what percentage of them die. There have been bullshitters all over the internet wince the pandemic started, insisting that COVID was no more deadly than normal flu, which has a Infection Fatality Ratio of about 0.1%. We now know for definite that that is not true, because in the case of Brazil. even if every single person in the country had caught COVID, the IFR would already be 0.25%. In Hungary, Bosnia and Czechia, it's even worse, at 0.3%. In practice of course, in none of those countries have anything like the entire population been infected. So the actual IFR is much higher than 0.25-0.3% - much more likely to be in the range 0.5-1%, which is what the real experts have been saying from the off.

Why is this important? Because we still have influential idiots in the press and online saying lockdowns were never needed and we should have just lived with COVID as it went through the population. But we now have categorical evidence that at the absolute minimum, even if one dumbly insists of ignoring the arguments above, 0.25-0.3% of the population is a lower bound for the number who might die from COVID . And we also know that without huge social distancing efforts the virus would rip through the  whole population in 2-3 months, with most deaths occurring in a fortnight or so at the height of the outbreak. So that means that in our case, if we hadn't taken the extraordinary measures we did last year to combat COVID, we'd have had maybe 100,000 deaths over a fortnight late last Spring. Absolute minimum. And it's that fact that needs smacking in the face of the deniers every time they pop up with their idiocy.

[KeithMyath]

I actually live in Cornwall, and to say that the g7 has not increased Covid cases is laugahable. All the areas that have been used for the g7 have had increased 7 fold. Many other holiday resorts in Cornwall have had nothing. Wether that results I. Deaths remains to be seen, but how anyone can catorgically state that the g7 hasn’t increased cases because it was “ Covid safe” is beyond me

[no eyed deer]

So many mixed messages from day one.

Eyesight testing, meeting lovers, G8 BBQ, Gilmore hugging players and them not having to isolate. FIFA demanding dispensation, Portugal on amber list and India flood a strain in. Data data date !

All this while the working class are the ones who have to stick to all the rules…. Not me anymore, enough is enough!!

Yes that’s me you see in the supermarket without a mask. 

Boris already talking about lockdown 4.

[wilts rover]

ned - well yes, thats what some of us have been saying since page 1 of this thread - but still the government apologists will blame it back on the public for not understanding the 'clear' mixed messages.

A mask doesn't protect you btw. It protects other people from you - which would appear to be an increasing need - and how you think actions like that will help control the situation is beyond me.

[wilts rover]

Why people want to attempt to deny the G7 summit was a super-spreader event is something else beyond me. There were tens of thousands of people, police, security, hospitality, aides, journalist's etc from across the world staying in and around St Ives. So it's just a coincidence that St Ives then records one of the highest postive rates in the country is it?

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/g7-summit-super-spreader-covid-5552525

[albie]

Some people will deny what is in plain sight;
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/covid-cases-surge-cornwall-aftermath-24366475

All this enabled Bozo to fly to Cornwall to sound off about climate change!

[drfchound]

I expect rates to rise among people who have been attending football matches too.
Looking at the scenes with fans having their pre and after match celebrations tells you all you need to know.
A bit petty to complain about the people attending G7.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Yeah it's totally petty. The positive cases have only gone up 2500% in parts of Cornwall after the G7 summit.

[wilts rover]

As i said above. There are some government apologists who will apologise whatever the governent do and whatever the evidence is they have done it.

[wilts rover]

One rule for one - and one rle for another Pt330

Kwasi Kwarteng - I travelled to the Gulf & I didn't need to quarantine on  my return to the UK...

Susanna Reid - In what way are you immune to covid, in a way other travellers aren't... it seems there's one rule for special People & another rule for everybody else.

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1406881245775155205

[drfchound]

Yeah it's totally petty. The positive cases have only gone up 2500% in parts of Cornwall after the G7 summit.

Still trolling my posts BST.