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Boris Johnson has now been discharged from hospital and will continue his recovery at Chequers
Unfortunately albie, there will be plenty of Patsys in the executive of the NHS (some of them deserving of blame, perhaps) to shield the government ministers from the law.
Quote from: Copps is Magic on April 12, 2020, 01:18:56 pmBRR, there was a flu epidemic in the Netherlands in 2018. Shown in the blue line on that graph.https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutch-expat-news/dutch-flu-epidemic-spreadingThere's one every year but some are weak, as I believe ths ones were. And that's an interesting angle too - several weaker epidemics and more vulnerable are left as victims for the more potent one. This is a factor in this. I'm not downplaying Corona but it is important to try and get the real perspective. Things are being ignored, the stats we have and the use of them are effectively an artists impression.
BRR, there was a flu epidemic in the Netherlands in 2018. Shown in the blue line on that graph.https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutch-expat-news/dutch-flu-epidemic-spreading
Quote from: ian1980 on April 12, 2020, 02:07:52 pmBoris Johnson has now been discharged from hospital and will continue his recovery at Chequers Good, hopefully he has had a lesson in the importance of a well resourced NHS, with proper forward planning.At the end of this, the actions of those in charge need to be considered.Culpable negligence leading to manslaughter is one interpretation of the road not travelled.
Quote from: ian1980 on April 12, 2020, 02:07:52 pmBoris Johnson has now been discharged from hospital and will continue his recovery at Chequers Wait till he grows up and finds himself behind at chess
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on April 12, 2020, 02:02:02 pmQuote from: Copps is Magic on April 12, 2020, 01:18:56 pmBRR, there was a flu epidemic in the Netherlands in 2018. Shown in the blue line on that graph.https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutch-expat-news/dutch-flu-epidemic-spreadingThere's one every year but some are weak, as I believe ths ones were. And that's an interesting angle too - several weaker epidemics and more vulnerable are left as victims for the more potent one. This is a factor in this. I'm not downplaying Corona but it is important to try and get the real perspective. Things are being ignored, the stats we have and the use of them are effectively an artists impression.BRR.It's pointless comparing THIS epidemic when there have been uprecedented suppression measures, with a normal flu epidemic when life carries on as normal.If you want to compare like with like, you'd need to assume that the pre-suppression doubling rate of deaths (doubling every 3-4 days) had carried on until 0.5% or so of the population were dead.I did precisely that sort of model back in February and it was terrifying. At the peak there would have been something like 25,000 people a day dying in the UK. As it is, by losing 30% of GDP over the spring, we MIGHT, if we are lucky, have only 2-3 times the deaths from CV-19 than we would in a normal flu epidemic.
Sweden absolutely do not have the fewest reported deaths per capita in Europe outside Germany.Ireland, Austria, Denmark, Portugal, Slovenia, Iceland, Norway, Czechia, Finland, Estonia, Romania and Greece all have lower death rates. That's not an exhaustive list, just a few.
Lot's being said about how poor the government has been, discounting Germany who seem to be fantastic, of the other countries in Europe comparing the total population and the number of deaths Sweden who have been criticised for their approach have the fewest deaths per million with 0.0086 per million. Spain with 0.0361 the most per million Italy 0.0325 Belgium with 0.0314 France with 0.0206 UK with 0.0148 Luxembourg with 0.0101 Germany is 0.0035 deaths per million by far the least
and amazingly just as I posted that this popped up:Despite denials to the contrary 'Herd Immunity' was still being modeled as a policy by the government as late as 23rd Marchhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/12/documents-contradict-uk-government-stance-on-covid-19-herd-immunity
If the uk has had 85,000 cases, of which 10,0000 have died, how come only 344 people have been deemed to have recovered?What happened with the other 74,656?The true recovery rate is likely to be much higher as many cases will have only suffered minor discomfort and will not have been tested.
Quote from: drfchound on April 12, 2020, 06:03:19 pmIf the uk has had 85,000 cases, of which 10,0000 have died, how come only 344 people have been deemed to have recovered?What happened with the other 74,656?The true recovery rate is likely to be much higher as many cases will have only suffered minor discomfort and will not have been tested.Emergency! Hound's body has been taken over by tenty thousand micro Priti Patels.
Billy, I never claimed that Just the numbers of the main countries with the most deaths reported, not the whole of Europe.
Yes, it is certainly true.
Wind your neck in and have a look at the typo in the first line of your post that I responded to.