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bpoolrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4860 on May 28, 2020, 06:09:44 pm by bpoolrover »
I don’t mind it being a issue maybe allow one question at the daily briefings on it not every question with a slightly different take on it



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bpoolrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4861 on May 28, 2020, 06:11:34 pm by bpoolrover »
His wifes sister 30miles away in London must be right bitch if she wasn't prepared to help them out in an emergency

Especially given his importance
did she offer to help? Was she able to help?

Surely someone so important could have made it happen. I honesty cannot believe your attempting to defend what is nothing more than a pack of lies. Lies which have been pointed out, continually. Yet, you still attempt to defend the indefensible.
I’ve defended him on going to the farm which the police have said is fine, I said I’m not defending him on going to the castle place so what’s wrong with that?

bpoolrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4862 on May 28, 2020, 06:12:25 pm by bpoolrover »
His wifes sister 30miles away in London must be right bitch if she wasn't prepared to help them out in an emergency

Especially given his importance
did she offer to help? Was she able to help?

Surely someone so important could have made it happen. I honesty cannot believe your attempting to defend what is nothing more than a pack of lies. Lies which have been pointed out, continually. Yet, you still attempt to defend the indefensible.
does being important mean your sister in law will babysit or can babysit for you? He might have a important job but he is no more important than anyone else

IDM

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4863 on May 28, 2020, 06:16:17 pm by IDM »
I don’t mind it being a issue maybe allow one question at the daily briefings on it not every question with a slightly different take on it

But the answers aren’t forthcoming therefore the questions get repeated.. had the PM answered the BBC question, then the ITV guy would not have needed to ask the same.

Also, on another matter, families and friends can now meet in open spaces and in private gardens.  But social distancing applies.

Does anyone else think that it is cruel that grandparents (regardless of age) can now see their grandkids in the garden, but can’t give them a hug.?

Isn’t that the instinctive thing to do, as a loving grandparent.?

Of course I understand the social distancing thing, but people will hug, won’t they.?


drfcdrfc

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4864 on May 28, 2020, 06:16:37 pm by drfcdrfc »
His wifes sister 30miles away in London must be right bitch if she wasn't prepared to help them out in an emergency

Especially given his importance
did she offer to help? Was she able to help?

Surely someone so important could have made it happen. I honesty cannot believe your attempting to defend what is nothing more than a pack of lies. Lies which have been pointed out, continually. Yet, you still attempt to defend the indefensible.
does being important mean your sister in law will babysit or can babysit for you?


It does if your the most important person in the room. It's absolute b*llocks and you know it is. This isn't political. It's right or wrong. He's wrong, aside from the castle jolly. He should not have gone anywhere. Just so happens that he was able to exploit a loophole, that the rest of the population didn't know existed. How conveniant

drfcdrfc

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4865 on May 28, 2020, 06:17:48 pm by drfcdrfc »
His wifes sister 30miles away in London must be right bitch if she wasn't prepared to help them out in an emergency

Especially given his importance
did she offer to help? Was she able to help?

Surely someone so important could have made it happen. I honesty cannot believe your attempting to defend what is nothing more than a pack of lies. Lies which have been pointed out, continually. Yet, you still attempt to defend the indefensible.
does being important mean your sister in law will babysit or can babysit for you? He might have a important job but he is no more important than anyone else

If only one part of his argument is PROVEN to be a lie, how on earth can you believe the rest of it?

bpoolrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4866 on May 28, 2020, 06:18:06 pm by bpoolrover »
This is a awful illness it’s affected pretty much everybody in some way, at last as long as there is no spike we can see a glimmer of hope about things getting back in some shape or form would it not be better concentrating on that rather than one person

bpoolrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4867 on May 28, 2020, 06:19:07 pm by bpoolrover »
His wifes sister 30miles away in London must be right bitch if she wasn't prepared to help them out in an emergency

Especially given his importance
did she offer to help? Was she able to help?

Surely someone so important could have made it happen. I honesty cannot believe your attempting to defend what is nothing more than a pack of lies. Lies which have been pointed out, continually. Yet, you still attempt to defend the indefensible.
does being important mean your sister in law will babysit or can babysit for you? He might have a important job but he is no more important than anyone else

If only one part of his argument is PROVEN to be a lie, how on earth can you believe the rest of it?
it’s proven because he admitted doing it and that is one person he is not doing the daily briefings

IDM

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4868 on May 28, 2020, 06:20:57 pm by IDM »
This is a awful illness it’s affected pretty much everybody in some way, at last as long as there is no spike we can see a glimmer of hope about things getting back in some shape or form would it not be better concentrating on that rather than one person

I agree, but Cummings has brought this on himself..

His interpretation of the rules potentially makes it a game changer for others to do the same.  Never mind the anger from those who could have done that over the last 2 months, but didn’t.

drfchound

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4869 on May 28, 2020, 06:23:12 pm by drfchound »
I approve of him going to the farm but not to the castle lol, I have answered your question why you trying to argue over it?





Fu**ing hell backpool.
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Bentley Bullet

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4870 on May 28, 2020, 06:23:40 pm by Bentley Bullet »
This is a awful illness it’s affected pretty much everybody in some way, at last as long as there is no spike we can see a glimmer of hope about things getting back in some shape or form would it not be better concentrating on that rather than one person

What, you mean like stop trying to score political smarty points? Don't be ridiculous!

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #4871 on May 28, 2020, 06:24:39 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Idm it’s not pathetic a lot of people have had enough of it now as there all asking the same question and they have done it for days now, they had a hour of questions with Cummings the other day, unless you are massively into politics I doubt you want to hear it anymore

"A lot" of people may well be fed up of it.

The polls say that "a lot more" are furious with Cummings and are not happy with the result.

drfcdrfc

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #4872 on May 28, 2020, 06:24:44 pm by drfcdrfc »
His wifes sister 30miles away in London must be right bitch if she wasn't prepared to help them out in an emergency

Especially given his importance
did she offer to help? Was she able to help?

Surely someone so important could have made it happen. I honesty cannot believe your attempting to defend what is nothing more than a pack of lies. Lies which have been pointed out, continually. Yet, you still attempt to defend the indefensible.
does being important mean your sister in law will babysit or can babysit for you? He might have a important job but he is no more important than anyone else

If only one part of his argument is PROVEN to be a lie, how on earth can you believe the rest of it?
it’s proven because he admitted doing it and that is one person he is not doing the daily briefings

What about his pandemic warning he claimed was older than when he actually edited it?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #4873 on May 28, 2020, 06:31:37 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
As for moving on, what you appear to be saying Bpool is that we should just belt up and let the Government (i.e. Cummings) get on with developing and implementing policy without any oversight.

Which would be grand if Cummings wasn't the man who had brought you:

Herd Immunity (and if a few old folk die, bad luck).

The worst deaths outcome and economic consequence this side of the Atlantic.

The attitude of "You follow top line rules. I'll make my own mind up thank you, and break them anyway."

The failed tracking app.

This isn't about party politics. It is EVERYTHING about the fact that Cummings is a danger to the country who needs his wings clipping.

I've asked several times and never got an answer. Just how badly would they have to screw up for you to start questioning their competence? 50,000 unnecessary deaths and half a trillion quid of lost economic output don't seem to have tipped the balance for you. What WOULD it take?

bpoolrover

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« Reply #4874 on May 28, 2020, 06:37:30 pm by bpoolrover »
As for moving on, what you appear to be saying Bpool is that we should just belt up and let the Government (i.e. Cummings) get on with developing and implementing policy without any oversight.

Which would be grand if Cummings wasn't the man who had brought you:

Herd Immunity (and if a few old folk die, bad luck).

The worst deaths outcome and economic consequence this side of the Atlantic.

The attitude of "You follow top line rules. I'll make my own mind up thank you, and break them anyway."

The failed tracking app.

This isn't about party politics. It is EVERYTHING about the fact that Cummings is a danger to the country who needs his wings clipping.

I've asked several times and never got an answer. Just how badly would they have to screw up for you to start questioning their competence? 50,000 unnecessary deaths and half a trillion quid of lost economic output don't seem to have tipped the balance for you. What WOULD it take?
no bst just not at the daily briefings have a special program on it or limit to one question

drfchound

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« Reply #4875 on May 28, 2020, 06:40:32 pm by drfchound »
I'm claiming the fiver, Syd is doing a grand impression of one of the journalists at the daily press conferences. Ask the same question over and over to try and get that "gotcha" soundbite

When I have a conversation with someone I prefer they are honest with me and me them, because johnson and cumming and gove and have been shown to be lying f**ks and tory voters accept this and don't mind so I have to be careful when tory voters tell me stuff because they may be doing the same. if that's ok with you ldr





Blackpool answered your question at least four times Sydney.

IDM

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« Reply #4876 on May 28, 2020, 06:45:52 pm by IDM »
I would like to see what people think of the new socialising rules.

From monday, in england, up to 6 people from (by deduction up to 6 different) households can meet - socially distancing between households and in outdoor areas.

In Scotland, from Monday, two households worth of people can meet with up to 8 people.

So in theory if one of the English people is carrying the virus there is potential to spread to more further households than in Scotland (assuming folks are careless).

I wonder why england has an arbitrary number of 6 people.?

So a family of 4 can visit grandparents, assuming both grandparents are there.  But a family with 3 or 4 children can’t, not all together anyway.

Yes, there needs to be some limit but I would have thought it would be better to allow any two households to get together on each occasion.?

We are also encouraged not to see different groupings too close together - yet again that is only encouraged.  Taken to the extreme, and considering let’s say young adults who live alone, one person could in theory socialise with 35 others in one week alone.  More realistically for example a couple in their 50s could nip for a drink with two other neighbouring couples on a Friday evening and have 4 of their family round on the Sunday.! That’s still an interaction with 3 other households over a weekend.

What do folks think.?
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drfchound

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« Reply #4877 on May 28, 2020, 06:52:51 pm by drfchound »
You don’t seem to wonder why Scotland have an arbitrary number of eight though IDM.
Which do you think is the better number to use.

wilts rover

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« Reply #4878 on May 28, 2020, 07:01:57 pm by wilts rover »
Idm it’s not pathetic a lot of people have had enough of it now as there all asking the same question and they have done it for days now, they had a hour of questions with Cummings the other day, unless you are massively into politics I doubt you want to hear it anymore

You want to listen to the phone-in shows on the radio. People are furious.

They are furious over what Cummings did. They are furious over the government covering it up. But most of all they are furious that they have sacrificed their lives for 8 weeks doing what they thought was right and now the government have told them they were wrong and they could have done what they wanted. Because he did.

People don't like being lied to. They want answers. And the longer they go without getting them - the more they will want them.


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« Reply #4879 on May 28, 2020, 07:15:49 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Wilts, what are your views on Jeremy Corbyn's insistence on carrying on working and attending parliament, despite the rules on over 70's isolating?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #4880 on May 28, 2020, 07:21:38 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Stupid comparison BB.

Corbyn is a senior politician who is clearly an exceptional case. He is choosing to risk HIS health to do his job.

That is not remotely similar to Cummings. Corbyn is putting no-one else at risk, any more than any MP in Westminster is. And Rees Mogg as Leader of the House has decided they are ALL coming back next week, and any that choose not to do for health reasons will not be allowed to contribute to debates or vote.

What would you want Corbyn to do then?

IDM

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« Reply #4881 on May 28, 2020, 07:24:37 pm by IDM »
Wilts, what are your views on Jeremy Corbyn's insistence on carrying on working and attending parliament, despite the rules on over 70's isolating?

Please tell us what you think the rules on over 70s are.?

There was a time a couple of months ago, when it was suggested that over 70s would have to isolate - but that never came into force.

Over 70s with no underlying health issues were permitted to act the same as everyone else, with the caveat that they should be extra vigilant (or words to that effect).

This meant that folks like me didn’t need to do a 150+ mile round trip every week to do my dad’s shopping, as he is perfectly entitled to do it himself, and has.

Unless this is another occasion where there is an element of the rule which isn’t widely known.?

wilts rover

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« Reply #4882 on May 28, 2020, 07:28:38 pm by wilts rover »
Wilts, what are your views on Jeremy Corbyn's insistence on carrying on working and attending parliament, despite the rules on over 70's isolating?

BB what are the rules on over 70's isolating?

IDM

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« Reply #4883 on May 28, 2020, 07:28:53 pm by IDM »
Stupid comparison BB.

Corbyn is a senior politician who is clearly an exceptional case. He is choosing to risk HIS health to do his job.

That is not remotely similar to Cummings. Corbyn is putting no-one else at risk, any more than any MP in Westminster is. And Rees Mogg as Leader of the House has decided they are ALL coming back next week, and any that choose not to do for health reasons will not be allowed to contribute to debates or vote.

What would you want Corbyn to do then?

Isn’t the official guideline on working, that we should all work from home if we can.? 

Why is parliament any different with the comms tech available.?   What do they have to do each day which doesn’t involve talking with each other (use MS Teams or similar, like many businesses do) or reading papers which could be in e-formats.?

I thought the idea to make workplaces Covid secure as for businesses where it was impractical to work from home, such as shops and factories etc.?
« Last Edit: May 28, 2020, 07:36:14 pm by IDM »

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« Reply #4884 on May 28, 2020, 07:32:57 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Stupid comparison BB.

Corbyn is a senior politician who is clearly an exceptional case. He is choosing to risk HIS health to do his job.

That is not remotely similar to Cummings. Corbyn is putting no-one else at risk, any more than any MP in Westminster is. And Rees Mogg as Leader of the House has decided they are ALL coming back next week, and any that choose not to do for health reasons will not be allowed to contribute to debates or vote.

What would you want Corbyn to do then?

Of course, it's a stupid comparison Billy lad. One's Labour and the other isn't!

wilts rover

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« Reply #4885 on May 28, 2020, 07:36:45 pm by wilts rover »
Stupid comparison BB.

Corbyn is a senior politician who is clearly an exceptional case. He is choosing to risk HIS health to do his job.

That is not remotely similar to Cummings. Corbyn is putting no-one else at risk, any more than any MP in Westminster is. And Rees Mogg as Leader of the House has decided they are ALL coming back next week, and any that choose not to do for health reasons will not be allowed to contribute to debates or vote.

What would you want Corbyn to do then?

Of course, it's a stupid comparison Billy lad. One's Labour and the other isn't!

Hence why you are only highlighting anything to do with Labour and ignoring a man who has put the government's whole coronavirus plan at risk - and the public with it.

Crack on dear boy...

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #4886 on May 28, 2020, 07:51:12 pm by DonnyOsmond »
One is high profile in our government and part of the making of rules. The other is a back bencher for the opposition.

bpoolrover

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« Reply #4887 on May 28, 2020, 07:53:09 pm by bpoolrover »
What surprises me is people are not more happier that some will be able to spend time with loved ones for sometime in the garden after all this time, I for one will be rejoicing that today, maybe that’s being selfish but oh well

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« Reply #4888 on May 28, 2020, 07:55:41 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I'm showing you up Wilts for your constant preaching of principles that you only apply to your enemies!

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #4889 on May 28, 2020, 07:56:45 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Stupid comparison BB.

Corbyn is a senior politician who is clearly an exceptional case. He is choosing to risk HIS health to do his job.

That is not remotely similar to Cummings. Corbyn is putting no-one else at risk, any more than any MP in Westminster is. And Rees Mogg as Leader of the House has decided they are ALL coming back next week, and any that choose not to do for health reasons will not be allowed to contribute to debates or vote.

What would you want Corbyn to do then?

Of course, it's a stupid comparison Billy lad. One's Labour and the other isn't!

No BB

One is a stupid example and the other one isn't.

 

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