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This is the Sophie Ridge podcast for those interestedhttps://twitter.com/RidgeOnSundayand Sir Mark Walport on the Indian variant:https://twitter.com/RidgeOnSunday/status/1393849134340354052Quote from: drfchound on May 16, 2021, 08:53:48 pmQuote from: wilts rover on May 16, 2021, 08:38:26 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 16, 2021, 08:33:13 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 16, 2021, 08:24:09 pmHeard the most bizarre comment from Hancock today. He's "confident" that the vaccines will work on the Indian variant. Bizarre because virologists don't yet know whether they will. I wonder what Hancock is basing that assessment on?I’m not trying to be confrontational here BST but maybe he knows something that you don’t.Presumably why he asked the question hound - and I gave the answer aboveWilts, I hadn’t seen your post until just now.Looking at the timings of our posts I was typing mine as you posted.As I recall from this morning, Hancock didn’t put the number of people in hospital with COVID in Bolton as high as 20, but I may be wrong there, I was once before. (Still can’t find that blinking emoji).As for your last couple of questions...... maybe you could read some of the previous posts on this thread as there are differences of opinions into the whys and wherefores.To repeat what I asked BST though, maybe Hancock knows something that us football forum people don’t.Sorry hound, I think yours came up just after I posted mine.I have been offline for a few days. If you don't mind I won't bother going back through previous posts as I don't think I am going to be very enlightened am I!Hancock has been party to three late lockdowns after ignoring the scientific advice, the policy to not introduce travel restrictions and quarantine for travellers from affected countries until the virus was running wild in this country, and has been party to not introducing travel restrictions on India for 3 weeks after being informed the variant was running wild there. What he knows is that however many cockups (or policy decisions to prioritise his party donors wealth over public health) people don't care and will still defend him and attack the people defending him - he pretty much said so in the interview this morning.
Quote from: wilts rover on May 16, 2021, 08:38:26 pmQuote from: drfchound on May 16, 2021, 08:33:13 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 16, 2021, 08:24:09 pmHeard the most bizarre comment from Hancock today. He's "confident" that the vaccines will work on the Indian variant. Bizarre because virologists don't yet know whether they will. I wonder what Hancock is basing that assessment on?I’m not trying to be confrontational here BST but maybe he knows something that you don’t.Presumably why he asked the question hound - and I gave the answer aboveWilts, I hadn’t seen your post until just now.Looking at the timings of our posts I was typing mine as you posted.As I recall from this morning, Hancock didn’t put the number of people in hospital with COVID in Bolton as high as 20, but I may be wrong there, I was once before. (Still can’t find that blinking emoji).As for your last couple of questions...... maybe you could read some of the previous posts on this thread as there are differences of opinions into the whys and wherefores.To repeat what I asked BST though, maybe Hancock knows something that us football forum people don’t.
Quote from: drfchound on May 16, 2021, 08:33:13 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 16, 2021, 08:24:09 pmHeard the most bizarre comment from Hancock today. He's "confident" that the vaccines will work on the Indian variant. Bizarre because virologists don't yet know whether they will. I wonder what Hancock is basing that assessment on?I’m not trying to be confrontational here BST but maybe he knows something that you don’t.Presumably why he asked the question hound - and I gave the answer above
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 16, 2021, 08:24:09 pmHeard the most bizarre comment from Hancock today. He's "confident" that the vaccines will work on the Indian variant. Bizarre because virologists don't yet know whether they will. I wonder what Hancock is basing that assessment on?I’m not trying to be confrontational here BST but maybe he knows something that you don’t.
Heard the most bizarre comment from Hancock today. He's "confident" that the vaccines will work on the Indian variant. Bizarre because virologists don't yet know whether they will. I wonder what Hancock is basing that assessment on?
To add further to the perspective, currently there are 0 people in hospital in Doncaster with the virus, 0. Forgive me for thinking that after 18 months I may be able to visit my grandparents.
Not really in context though is it, but you knew that.
Government experts and the BMA recommend the public ignore the loosening of restrictions tomorrow.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/16/ignore-lockdown-easing-to-curb-indian-covid-variant-health-experts-urge
Quote from: Nudga on May 16, 2021, 02:09:10 pmNot really in context though is it, but you knew that.I thought you may at least have a look and see what the official advice is Nudga, if you have taken some and you start whinnying and pawing the ground with your front legs this tells you why.''There seems to be a growing interest in a drug called ivermectin to treat humans with COVID-19. Ivermectin is often used in the U.S. to treat or prevent parasites in animals. The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses''''Here’s What You Need to Know about IvermectinFDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans. Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (a drug for treating viruses).Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm. If you have a prescription for ivermectin for an FDA-approved use, get it from a legitimate source and take it exactly as prescribed. Never use medications intended for animals on yourself. Ivermectin preparations for animals are very different from those approved for humans''https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
Quote from: SydneyRover on May 16, 2021, 11:41:19 pmQuote from: Nudga on May 16, 2021, 02:09:10 pmNot really in context though is it, but you knew that.I thought you may at least have a look and see what the official advice is Nudga, if you have taken some and you start whinnying and pawing the ground with your front legs this tells you why.''There seems to be a growing interest in a drug called ivermectin to treat humans with COVID-19. Ivermectin is often used in the U.S. to treat or prevent parasites in animals. The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses''''Here’s What You Need to Know about IvermectinFDA has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans. Ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses for some parasitic worms, and there are topical (on the skin) formulations for head lice and skin conditions like rosacea. Ivermectin is not an anti-viral (a drug for treating viruses).Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm. If you have a prescription for ivermectin for an FDA-approved use, get it from a legitimate source and take it exactly as prescribed. Never use medications intended for animals on yourself. Ivermectin preparations for animals are very different from those approved for humans''https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19Touché.https://www.pharmacymagazine.co.uk/ivermectin-for-covid-19-a-cheap-drug-with-a-remarkable-effectProbably not being rolled out and used because its a cheap drug and no money to be made. I'd trust this after being in use over 40 years than a vaccine that is still under emergency trials until 2023 and the pharmaceutical industry is exempt from being sued from any side effects.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/14/scientists-admit-totalitarian-use-fear-control-behaviour-covid/I would liken parts of the SAGE group to MK Ultra fanatics.
Those admitted to hospital with the new Indian variant were eligible for the vaccine but chose not to have it. Should we stay in lockdown until anti-vaccers change their minds?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 17, 2021, 09:33:56 amThose admitted to hospital with the new Indian variant were eligible for the vaccine but chose not to have it. Should we stay in lockdown until anti-vaccers change their minds?No. Let's open everything up, i've already wasted a year of my life for no good reason.
We've had 5 months to plan what the policy on overseas travel was going to be.As of this morning, the official Govt policy is that you CAN travel to amber list countries for leisure purposes. But the Govt strongly urged you not to do.Just...how the actual f**k does someone sign off on this?
Smoke and drink heavily and you might make yourself very ill.Pick up covid on your holidays and you might make yourself very ill and lots of other people too.
That's not the point BFYP. It's the conflicting message.You are free to go to Spain on holiday.We urge you not to go to Spain on holiday.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 17, 2021, 03:53:24 pmThat's not the point BFYP. It's the conflicting message.You are free to go to Spain on holiday.We urge you not to go to Spain on holiday. Herein lies a rather large debate. Should the state force the issue or leave it up to the population?