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bpoolrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #14010 on October 19, 2021, 04:30:49 pm by bpoolrover »
Bit of a decrease today to 43k if we can keep it slowly going down before holidays then things should look much better



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ravenrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #14011 on October 19, 2021, 06:06:56 pm by ravenrover »
Let me assure you no random person would want to hug or kiss me or Wolfie. Oh and we both wear masks at the game
Good to have met you on Saturday Wolfie, no we didn't hug and kiss

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #14012 on October 19, 2021, 06:07:44 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Bpool

Today's figures are 5000 up on last Tuesday. The 7 day average is still going up very quickly. I'd put decent money on the next 3-4 days all being around 50k reported cases.

bpoolrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #14013 on October 19, 2021, 06:25:59 pm by bpoolrover »
Bpool

Today's figures are 5000 up on last Tuesday. The 7 day average is still going up very quickly. I'd put decent money on the next 3-4 days all being around 50k reported cases.
yes but there still down on yesterday which is still better news than them being higher than yesterday

big fat yorkshire pudding

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« Reply #14014 on October 19, 2021, 06:49:24 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Bpool

Today's figures are 5000 up on last Tuesday. The 7 day average is still going up very quickly. I'd put decent money on the next 3-4 days all being around 50k reported cases.

And the solution is what? More misery locked in our homes? No thanks.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #14015 on October 19, 2021, 06:53:35 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
BFYP
Easy for you to say. You're not one of the 223 people whose deaths have been reported today.

Do you have a cut off level of deaths at which the misery of being locked in your home would be a reasonable price to pay?

bpoolrover

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« Reply #14016 on October 19, 2021, 07:20:14 pm by bpoolrover »
Yes but there wasn't really 223 in one day as you know it's just delayed from the weekend, some people are saying there could be up to 50k deaths from the flu at what point do you then put restrictions in place for that? What restrictions do you think they should have bst?

no eyed deer

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« Reply #14017 on October 19, 2021, 07:24:56 pm by no eyed deer »
BFYP
Easy for you to say. You're not one of the 223 people whose deaths have been reported today.

Do you have a cut off level of deaths at which the misery of being locked in your home would be a reasonable price to pay?

Thought the vaccine was the answer and anti-vaxxer the cause.


BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #14018 on October 19, 2021, 07:27:10 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Bpool
Agreed. But the 7 day average of deaths is up above 130 and rising rapidly. That's nearly 1000 avoidable deaths a week. And we are just accepting that.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #14019 on October 19, 2021, 07:28:35 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
BFYP
Easy for you to say. You're not one of the 223 people whose deaths have been reported today.

Do you have a cut off level of deaths at which the misery of being locked in your home would be a reasonable price to pay?

Thought the vaccine was the answer and anti-vaxxer the cause.



How many of those do you think haven't been vaccinated? Or had the vaccine so long ago that it is fading and we are not getting boosters in arms very quickly?

no eyed deer

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« Reply #14020 on October 19, 2021, 07:35:45 pm by no eyed deer »
BFYP
Easy for you to say. You're not one of the 223 people whose deaths have been reported today.

Do you have a cut off level of deaths at which the misery of being locked in your home would be a reasonable price to pay?

Thought the vaccine was the answer and anti-vaxxer the cause.



How many of those do you think haven't been vaccinated? Or had the vaccine so long ago that it is fading and we are not getting boosters in arms very quickly?

It fades away now does it.

How many peoples immune system is more than adequate to fight the infection.




drfchound

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« Reply #14021 on October 19, 2021, 07:37:25 pm by drfchound »
I’m not sure that boosters aren’t being done quickly enough.
Me and the wife are having our boosters next week, six months after the second jab.

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #14022 on October 19, 2021, 08:07:13 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Our lass and I had ours today.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #14023 on October 19, 2021, 08:50:31 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Our lass and I had ours today.

Good. I'm glad for you.

Problem is, you are the lucky ones. Eslewhere, there's nearly 5 million people who should have had their booster jab because they are >6 months after their second jab, but who haven't been called up yet. And every day, they are getting more vulnerable. With something approaching 1 in 60 of the population currently infected.

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #14024 on October 19, 2021, 08:56:21 pm by Bentley Bullet »
So, maybe we've become victims of our own success following our brilliant jab output initially becoming a hard act to follow?

Nudga

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« Reply #14025 on October 19, 2021, 08:58:47 pm by Nudga »
BFYP
Easy for you to say. You're not one of the 223 people whose deaths have been reported today.

Do you have a cut off level of deaths at which the misery of being locked in your home would be a reasonable price to pay?

Thought the vaccine was the answer and anti-vaxxer the cause.



How many of those do you think haven't been vaccinated? Or had the vaccine so long ago that it is fading and we are not getting boosters in arms very quickly?

You're like a cross between Mat Hancock and Pablo Escobar

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #14026 on October 19, 2021, 09:45:17 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Oh eh up. Here's the lovechild of Donald Trump and David Icke.

Nudga

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« Reply #14027 on October 19, 2021, 10:13:32 pm by Nudga »
Cheer up BST, the coronavirus act has been extended for another 6 months without parliamentary debate.
You'll have your lockdowns, masks, new borns jabbed in a couple of weeks.

Nudga

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« Reply #14028 on October 19, 2021, 10:28:41 pm by Nudga »
This has got me raging. These Kitsons are taking the piss out of us. It's all fun and games for these w**kers, but of course, the rules don't apply to them.

https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1450510463272427522?t=CL0_uJJh3T9eGZ0J8YDATw&s=19

big fat yorkshire pudding

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« Reply #14029 on October 19, 2021, 10:34:00 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
BFYP
Easy for you to say. You're not one of the 223 people whose deaths have been reported today.

Do you have a cut off level of deaths at which the misery of being locked in your home would be a reasonable price to pay?

No, but I am in the vulnerable category. I also have two small children who need development, need to be in education and developing social skills in person.  I have a team at work who need to be trained in person and need social interaction for their mental health who are seeing their careers suffer as they aren't getting the knowledge of the more experienced and highly qualified.

If anything the return to normality has made me realise just how much it's needed in many ways and I don't have an answer to get there.

I've had my jabs, still wear a mask, still do my tests for the covid study and still minimise contact where possible.  But we have to find an equilibrium.

TheFunk

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« Reply #14030 on October 19, 2021, 10:52:57 pm by TheFunk »
Thankfully for me Harrogate have realised they need a vaccination centre again for the first time since June. For some reason they seemed to think a small community centre in Knaresborough could cope. No wonder we've got the highest rate in Yorkshire.

bpoolrover

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« Reply #14031 on October 19, 2021, 11:06:52 pm by bpoolrover »
Bpool
Agreed. But the 7 day average of deaths is up above 130 and rising rapidly. That's nearly 1000 avoidable deaths a week. And we are just accepting that.
that is just not true so your telling me none of the 1000 people Would die and are all avoidable? The only way to bring the numbers right down would be some sort of lockdown, people keep calling for masks but that alone will not bring the numbers down without limiting pubs and sporting events,what do you propose?

scawsby steve

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« Reply #14032 on October 20, 2021, 01:54:27 am by scawsby steve »
Bpool
Agreed. But the 7 day average of deaths is up above 130 and rising rapidly. That's nearly 1000 avoidable deaths a week. And we are just accepting that.

Avoidable? How?

drfchound

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« Reply #14033 on October 20, 2021, 10:06:41 am by drfchound »
I suggested on here a few days ago that we could be heading for another winter lockdown.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #14034 on October 20, 2021, 10:23:04 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Bpool
Agreed. But the 7 day average of deaths is up above 130 and rising rapidly. That's nearly 1000 avoidable deaths a week. And we are just accepting that.

Avoidable? How?

Avoidable by us not having lost control of the outbreak back in May.

By us not having chosen as policy to send a clear message that masks were no longer needed, so that we now have the lowest rate of mask use in western Europe.

Avoidable by having kept sensible measures in schools instead of throwing our hands up and letting it rip.

Avoidable by sorting out vaccinations for kids months earlier than we did.

Avoidable by not being months behind on booster jabs.

Simple issues of competent management, well short of lockdown, could have kept this under control, as they have across Western Europe. But we are always different. And when it goes wrong, our response is always "What else could we have done?"

Ldr

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« Reply #14035 on October 20, 2021, 10:28:26 am by Ldr »
You simply cannot state as fact they were all avoidable and you know it. Emotive opinion is not fact. “Some” or “most” would have worked.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #14036 on October 20, 2021, 10:30:17 am by BillyStubbsTears »
They weren't ALL avoidable of course. But hundreds a week, thousands a month are.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #14037 on October 20, 2021, 10:33:19 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Imagine if Govt policy was to reduce standards of aviation safety, because, cost...

Imagine then if an airliner fell out of the sky every three days. For months.

Do you think there would be an outcry?

That's what our death toll currently is, compared to similar countries that have taken different paths this past 6 months, without f**king their economies.

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #14038 on October 20, 2021, 10:33:33 am by Bentley Bullet »
One point at a time.

They did NOT send a clear message that masks were no longer needed. They said common sense should prevail and people should wear masks when in crowded areas.


BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #14039 on October 20, 2021, 10:35:49 am by BillyStubbsTears »
One point at a time.

They did NOT send a clear message that masks were no longer needed. They said common sense should prevail and people should wear masks when in crowded areas.



And then they sent a VERY clear message by refusing to wear masks, day after day after day in the crowded House of Commons.

This matters. People see those images and take the message.

 

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