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Sprotyrover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #630 on March 16, 2020, 11:13:23 am by Sprotyrover »
Sproty - I don't know what is/will happening there, but here in the Netherlands although the schools are "shut", they are still open to kids of parents in essential public services (health, police and fire brigade)

Thanks that makes sense hopefully the Uk will do something similar.



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5minstogo

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #631 on March 16, 2020, 11:15:57 am by 5minstogo »

Metalmicky

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #632 on March 16, 2020, 11:16:39 am by Metalmicky »
Aussies may have a cure...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8115879/COVID-19-Australian-researchers-CURE-coronavirus.html

I know it's in the DM - so most will ignore...

SydneyRover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #633 on March 16, 2020, 11:45:08 am by SydneyRover »
Well yes because it's unlikely to be true


BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #635 on March 16, 2020, 11:52:23 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Well, the Govt ain't taking the lead, but we are going into lockdown from the bottom up.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PGMcNamara/status/1239461514278588418

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #636 on March 16, 2020, 11:54:13 am by BillyStubbsTears »
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/australian-researchers-within-reach-of-coronavirus-cure-c-746655
Ldr.

Good news for the treatment of future waves of C-19, but no help for the present.

"If the trial is successful, within three months researchers should know whether these drugs are effective in treating COVID-19."

The impending peak will have already hit us within 3 months.

I keep saying. There's no magic solution to this.

We either:
1) Keep operating as best we can, smooth the peak, but still expect 1-200k minimum extra deaths if we are very lucky.

Or

2) Have a China-scale lockdown and keep the country isolated from the rest of the world until a vaccine is ready. That will give us a Great Depression level economic hit.

Take your pick. There truly is no alternative.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2020, 11:57:16 am by BillyStubbsTears »

River Don

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #637 on March 16, 2020, 11:56:18 am by River Don »
Aussies may have a cure...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8115879/COVID-19-Australian-researchers-CURE-coronavirus.html

I know it's in the DM - so most will ignore...

Interesting that they are using an HIV antiviral.

There have been reports that this virus has within it HIV traits, which has lead to speculation that what we have here is a bioengineered virus that based on a bat Coronavirus combining HIV and SARS and the finger is being pointed at the Bio Lab near the seafood market in Wuhan. All this speculation has been squashed as wild scaremongering and conspiracy.

Perhaps it is but as far as I am aware they still haven't been able to pinpoint where the zoological transition began.

Personally I think it no longer matters, it's here and we are forced to cope. Let's just hope HIV antivirals prove to be effective.

Metalmicky

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #638 on March 16, 2020, 12:18:19 pm by Metalmicky »
Early morning and already very drunk British tourists not following the quarantine rules established by the Spanish government in Benidorm have to be escorted out of the beach by police.

just amazing.....
« Last Edit: March 16, 2020, 12:24:10 pm by Metalmicky »

SydneyRover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #639 on March 16, 2020, 12:20:49 pm by SydneyRover »
Before anyone gets excited here are the two most reliable news sites ................... not a mention

https://www.abc.net.au/news/

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news

Metalmicky

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #640 on March 16, 2020, 12:25:47 pm by Metalmicky »
Before anyone gets excited here are the two most reliable news sites ................... not a mention

https://www.abc.net.au/news/

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news

TBF, I doubt even the Daily Mail would stoop so low as to publish something like that without substance...

SydneyRover

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #641 on March 16, 2020, 12:26:43 pm by SydneyRover »
There may be some useful advice here

''Coronavirus: advice for employers and employees
This advice is being reviewed daily. We're monitoring government updates and when legal changes happen, we will update this page''

https://www.acas.org.uk/coronavirus

River Don

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #642 on March 16, 2020, 12:30:34 pm by River Don »
Brent crude has dropped to around $30 a barrel, which means the price has halved in the space of a month.

It looks like the beginnings of a deflationary spiral.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #643 on March 16, 2020, 12:32:40 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Before anyone gets excited here are the two most reliable news sites ................... not a mention

https://www.abc.net.au/news/

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news

TBF, I doubt even the Daily Mail would stoop so low as to publish something like that without substance...

You have more faith in the DM than me. I know from direct  personal experience what they will twist to serve their purpose. Utter, unprincipled and unprofessional Kitsons.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #644 on March 16, 2020, 12:33:48 pm by SydneyRover »
After digging it's probably a rehash of this which is 3 weeks old.


Possible coronavirus treatment clinical trial begins in United States

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-26/possible-coronavirus-treatment-study-begins-in-us/12002026

adamtherover

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« Reply #645 on March 16, 2020, 12:49:41 pm by adamtherover »
Aussies may have a cure...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8115879/COVID-19-Australian-researchers-CURE-coronavirus.html

I know it's in the DM - so most will ignore...
they very well might?,   i saw a headling grabbing article on friday night saying vaccine found!!!!,  then you read the article and they talk about 18 months to 2 years before its ready for the public??  :-(

albie

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« Reply #646 on March 16, 2020, 01:47:01 pm by albie »
Spain takes control of private healthcare and pharma to counter Covid-19.

Here Ch4 say a leaked Public Health England document reveals most frontline NHS staff won’t be tested for Covid-19 even if they have symptoms.

In Italy an open letter from Italian academics and medics, to places like the UK, is published;
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E5AOOKQrFrhNtl5au1N5FCBqKmJiRtwwUjXIBT2vMSc/edit

Lets see what BJ says later...bated breath all round!

Metalmicky

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« Reply #647 on March 16, 2020, 02:15:42 pm by Metalmicky »

Metalmicky

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #648 on March 16, 2020, 03:11:06 pm by Metalmicky »
152 new cases in the UK - not sure if this is the final figure.  No new death total though...

Donnywolf

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« Reply #649 on March 16, 2020, 03:26:28 pm by Donnywolf »
There all queueing up for bog rolls at Aldi.

Just been to Costco (Sheffield) for a ride out

Never EVER seen it so full and everyone was queuing to get out. The bit where you show Receipt and the person pretends to check you have the right amount of things

They had a 39 Pallet consignment in this morning of 40 Pack Bog Rolls and when I was there everyone had a Pack - and when I passed them they were all gone !

Chickens were restricted to 2 per member and were totally stripped !

I got 3 bottles of wine and some Waste Bags

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #650 on March 16, 2020, 03:42:28 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
152 new cases in the UK - not sure if this is the final figure.  No new death total though...

Not surprising.

The figures will swing around from day to day.

The last couple of days figures both on new cases and new deaths looked on the high side compared to what the trend had been before. These figures look on the low side. The overall trend looks about what it was at the end of last week.

See attached.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #651 on March 16, 2020, 03:44:53 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
There all queueing up for bog rolls at Aldi.

Just been to Costco (Sheffield) for a ride out

Never EVER seen it so full and everyone was queuing to get out. The bit where you show Receipt and the person pretends to check you have the right amount of things

They had a 39 Pallet consignment in this morning of 40 Pack Bog Rolls and when I was there everyone had a Pack - and when I passed them they were all gone !

Chickens were restricted to 2 per member and were totally stripped !

I got 3 bottles of wine and some Waste Bags

It truly shows how f**king thick some people are!

The peak is not coming for 10 weeks  or so. It'll be at least a month before we even get close to starting to climb up towards the peak.

What the f**k would you want to panic buy raw chicken for?

Not much of that f**king Dunkirk spirit out there, its there?

Metalmicky

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« Reply #652 on March 16, 2020, 04:09:11 pm by Metalmicky »
Not much of that f**king Dunkirk spirit out there, its there?

There are some folk thinking of others..........

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51908023

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #653 on March 16, 2020, 04:12:05 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I assume it goes without saying that the 31 Dec deadline for the end of the Brexit tradition period MUST be delayed?

No Government anywhere in the world should be dealing with anything but keeping the lights on and food on the shelves and preparing us for the coming crisis. That will take 2-3 months. Then sorting out the aftermath will take at least as long.

We do not have the luxury of deciding what the tariff will be on frozen peas going across the Channel next January.

Postpone it NOW while we deal with this.

IDM

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« Reply #654 on March 16, 2020, 04:14:24 pm by IDM »
100% agree.  Whatever our views on Brexit are, the negotiatons to get things sorted before the end of this year would be difficult to achieve in time, if not impossible.

Surely it wouldn’t be seen as political weakness to postpone by say 6 months.?
« Last Edit: March 16, 2020, 04:40:43 pm by IDM »

Metalmicky

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« Reply #655 on March 16, 2020, 04:16:08 pm by Metalmicky »
More news on a positive slant over a vaccine....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51906604

Metalmicky

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« Reply #656 on March 16, 2020, 04:19:22 pm by Metalmicky »
More news on a positive slant over a vaccine....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51906604


BTW, I know it will still take 18 months before it may be available.... before anyone jumps down my throat...

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #657 on March 16, 2020, 04:25:37 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
100% agree.  Whatever our views on Brexit are, the negotiators to get things sorted before the end of this year would be difficult to achieve in time, if not impossible.

Surely it wouldn’t be seen as political weakness to postpone by say 6 months.?

It should be a no-brainer, although doubtless there will be some who see it as a conspiracy.

Apart from the fact that every nerve and fibre of Govt must be put to the task of preparing for the C-19 epidemic, the way the global economy is dropping off a cliff at the moment suggests we are going to be in a very different world in 6 months time. So what is the point in negotiating details now, when the whole lot may be irrelevant by September?

Just postpone it. Come back to it in the Autumn.

IDM

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« Reply #658 on March 16, 2020, 07:00:27 pm by IDM »
OMFG what a farce.!

The government is using words like “advise” “should” rather than “must”..

The WHO says “test, test test” but we’re not doing that..

We all need to avoid non essential travel and gatherings, but aren’t being told what they are.. we are told not to go to pubs etc, but these places aren’t being instructed to close..

In principle the measures are there to limit the spread etc but by god the ambiguity is terrible..

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #659 on March 16, 2020, 07:11:45 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
IDM.

It also means that pubs, restaurants, theatres etc will go bust and not be able to claim on insurance, because the Govt hasn't imposed a closure.

I'm getting an increasingly  bad feeling on how we are being led here.

 

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