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albie

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EFL season over
« on May 08, 2020, 01:56:51 pm by albie »
According to TalkSport;
https://talksport.com/football/efl/703590/leagues-one-two-abandoned-next-week-efl-promotion-relegation/

Points per game to decide final table.

It was always going to come to this IMO.



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Branton Rover

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #1 on May 08, 2020, 02:26:24 pm by Branton Rover »
Seems like the only sensible outcome however - we lose Rovvrum upwards but gain Barnsley coming down - I also think teams will unfortunately fold - just hope we’re not one of those

goalkick

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #2 on May 08, 2020, 02:43:23 pm by goalkick »
Be interesting to see what happens re contracts.what players will we have left?

RoversAlias

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #3 on May 08, 2020, 02:51:01 pm by RoversAlias »
If this does happen, then it's maybe the best solution. I do wonder if it could lead to a rethink on the non-league decision to void, maybe they could come back and change that to PPG as well?

Will be interesting to see what the reaction is from those clubs adversely affected.

bedale rover

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #4 on May 08, 2020, 02:53:16 pm by bedale rover »
Does that mean that Notlob will be relegated?

(Monty Python reference)
« Last Edit: May 08, 2020, 05:39:59 pm by bedale rover »

Copps is Magic

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #5 on May 08, 2020, 03:07:12 pm by Copps is Magic »
Alfie May promoted with Cheltenham.

PPG does seem a bit crude in this day and age, though. Could they not use an algorithm to work it out?

the vicar

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #6 on May 08, 2020, 03:14:13 pm by the vicar »
Just cos it's to be voted on dunt mean they will all vote for it, but as mong as Bolton go down I'm happy

DonnyNoel

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #7 on May 08, 2020, 03:21:43 pm by DonnyNoel »
Alfie May promoted with Cheltenham.

PPG does seem a bit crude in this day and age, though. Could they not use an algorithm to work it out?

I think it will always come down to PPG as such but I think what you're saying is the level of detail put into it:

Should it be PPG since the transfer window closed?
Or the last 6 games?
10 games?
Or since every club appointed their current manager?
Should there be a separate home and away PPG to account for some teams that had unbalanced run ins?

Or does that kind of stuff even out across a season?

I'm sure someone will be shafted by this. I'm sure someone will benefit from this (DRFC would have in previous years given some of the collapses we've had under SoD and Dickov). Not sure if there's any other way if we're completely adamant games can't take place.


vaya

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #8 on May 08, 2020, 03:55:29 pm by vaya »
Well, for a season that's felt like it's never really got going, it looks like strictly speaking it's not going to end.

DonnyNoel

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #9 on May 08, 2020, 04:07:32 pm by DonnyNoel »
Well, for a season that's felt like it's never really got going, it looks like strictly speaking it's not going to end.

Succinct

knockers

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #10 on May 08, 2020, 05:00:51 pm by knockers »
Just cos it's to be voted on dunt mean they will all vote for it, but as mong as Bolton go down I'm happy

You might want to change mong for long

the vicar

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« Reply #11 on May 08, 2020, 05:05:45 pm by the vicar »
Ha ha but no I will leave it it fits in with the Bolton lot

NickDRFC

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #12 on May 08, 2020, 05:24:47 pm by NickDRFC »
The Free Press is suggesting that a weighted points per game will be used based on home & away performance. Has Rovers staying in 9th, 5 points behind Fleetwood.

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #13 on May 08, 2020, 05:34:32 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Whatever they use doesnt work.  I'd prefer it all being scrapped but theres no win either way.

For rovers league 1 football works best next season whatever.

drfchound

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #14 on May 08, 2020, 06:39:52 pm by drfchound »
Seems like the only sensible outcome however - we lose Rovvrum upwards but gain Barnsley coming down - I also think teams will unfortunately fold - just hope we’re not one of those






Barnsley coming down.
Has the Championship decided to end with ppg then.

drfchound

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #15 on May 08, 2020, 06:41:01 pm by drfchound »
Alfie May promoted with Cheltenham.

PPG does seem a bit crude in this day and age, though. Could they not use an algorithm to work it out?

I think it will always come down to PPG as such but I think what you're saying is the level of detail put into it:

Should it be PPG since the transfer window closed?
Or the last 6 games?
10 games?
Or since every club appointed their current manager?
Should there be a separate home and away PPG to account for some teams that had unbalanced run ins?

Or does that kind of stuff even out across a season?

I'm sure someone will be shafted by this. I'm sure someone will benefit from this (DRFC would have in previous years given some of the collapses we've had under SoD and Dickov). Not sure if there's any other way if we're completely adamant games can't take place.







SoD, Dickov and Ferguson.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #16 on May 08, 2020, 07:18:56 pm by DonnyOsmond »
PPG doesn't take in to account the quality of the teams you're yet to play, only the ones you've played so if one teams destroyed the likes of Bolton, Southend and Tranmere they'll obviously have a better PPG than a team that's been playing Portsmouth, Coventry and Rotherham in the second half of the season. Peterborough, Sunderland and us all have easier run ins on paper than Oxford, Rotherham and Coventry do.

NickDRFC

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« Reply #17 on May 08, 2020, 07:23:33 pm by NickDRFC »
PPG doesn't take in to account the quality of the teams you're yet to play, only the ones you've played so if one teams destroyed the likes of Bolton, Southend and Tranmere they'll obviously have a better PPG than a team that's been playing Portsmouth, Coventry and Rotherham in the second half of the season. Peterborough, Sunderland and us all have easier run ins on paper than Oxford, Rotherham and Coventry do.

You might have a case for it being harsh on the other clubs but the majority of our games are away and our away record is middling at best.

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #18 on May 08, 2020, 07:26:36 pm by ravenrover »
Doesn't ppg mean that Posh end up 7th? I'm sure McAnthony has already said he will start legal proceedings if that happens

scawsby steve

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #19 on May 08, 2020, 07:47:22 pm by scawsby steve »
I don't think Frankie Rennie will be pleased with this.

Barmby Rover

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #20 on May 08, 2020, 08:02:09 pm by Barmby Rover »
I can see the law suits coming out  if the season is decided by committee and statisticians.

IDM

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #21 on May 08, 2020, 08:11:24 pm by IDM »
Duckworth Lewis method.?

drfchound

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« Reply #22 on May 08, 2020, 08:30:10 pm by drfchound »
I dont know what all the fuss is about.
Everyone knew that it was unlikely that the rest of this seasons games would be played and a solution had to be found.
As the saying goes, you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
Whatever decision is/was taken there will be some clubs and fans who don’t like it and some that will.

wilts rover

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« Reply #23 on May 08, 2020, 08:33:39 pm by wilts rover »
Play it on FIFA. Its as good a way as any and a lot safe than many of the other possibilities.

karldew

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #24 on May 08, 2020, 11:03:53 pm by karldew »
Doesn't ppg mean that Posh end up 7th? I'm sure McAnthony has already said he will start legal proceedings if that happens

He’s only pissed off because he knows he’ll lose Toney

drfchound

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« Reply #25 on May 09, 2020, 07:39:05 am by drfchound »
Doesn't ppg mean that Posh end up 7th? I'm sure McAnthony has already said he will start legal proceedings if that happens

He’s only pissed off because he knows he’ll lose Toney






I assume that there won’t be any play off matches so what difference would it make to Peterbro whether they finished seventh?

Donnywolf

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Re: EFL season over
« Reply #26 on May 09, 2020, 08:19:56 am by Donnywolf »
Probably promoting the 4th Team if no Play offs ?


IDM

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« Reply #27 on May 09, 2020, 09:08:54 am by IDM »
That would mean 4 teams coming down from the championship so that’s unlikely.?

Concocted outcomes are unsatisfactory in my opinion.  If the season cannot be played out, then cancel the lot and start next time as if it were this one.. Bolton on -12 but not sure about Bury.

At least for Doncaster I can’t see any “model” which would see us go down and it whilst we were in a shout for the play offs, it was going to be tougher for us to reach that than for teams in those slots to drop out..

We can’t affect how this will pan out anyway.

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« Reply #28 on May 09, 2020, 10:00:41 am by Campsall rover »
Probably promoting the 4th Team if no Play offs ?
Presume you mean 3rd placed team in Championship & league 1 and 4th placed team in league 2

NewDonny

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« Reply #29 on May 09, 2020, 10:30:47 am by NewDonny »
That would mean 4 teams coming down from the championship so that’s unlikely.?

Concocted outcomes are unsatisfactory in my opinion.  If the season cannot be played out, then cancel the lot and start next time as if it were this one.. Bolton on -12 but not sure about Bury.

At least for Doncaster I can’t see any “model” which would see us go down and it whilst we were in a shout for the play offs, it was going to be tougher for us to reach that than for teams in those slots to drop out..

We can’t affect how this will pan out anyway.


Each team has played anything between 34-36 games already this season, they were never going to to just cancel the season and nor should they. This is the right outcome imo should they formally announce this, which I understand is going to happen sometime this week.


 

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