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That touches on the point I have been making all along though.It is only the wrong decision if you don’t agree with it.To others, whatever decision is made, will be the right one.
Quote from: drfchound on May 23, 2020, 09:41:00 amThat touches on the point I have been making all along though.It is only the wrong decision if you don’t agree with it.To others, whatever decision is made, will be the right one.Because there has been no football I haven’t been looking at the DFP site much.I formed my opinion independently ie without knowing what DM thought.It seems our manager agrees with me.
Again I find myself making the same point again when it comes to the EFL and how decisions are reached.You must remember its a membership organisation, so the EFL is the 71 clubs that participate in the competition. Its not a governing body. The EFL as a board and organisation are there to carry out the wishes of its members. That's why decisions are taken the way they are. They have to consult to find out what the various views are and then structure that into something that the majority of clubs will agree on. Nobody has ever seen a situation like this before, therefore there is no provision in the rules to accommodate what happens next. So, once the votes are cast a meeting will have to be called to then vote on the rule changes which will also need to be implemented.It is convoluted, but its all there for a reason, it means a DRFC vote is worth just as much as any other clubs. Just to add, this is the boards position;The Board’s view has been consistent throughout that playing out the remainder of the 2019/20 season when it is safe to do so is the most appropriate course of action. Ideally, all divisions would do so, but as the period of lockdown continues we have been asked to consider what would happen if a particular division was unable to complete the normal season. The Board’s unanimous view is that the League should, as one, determine a consistent position that remains as closely aligned as possible to the existing rules in the event of early curtailment.
Quote from: silent majority on May 23, 2020, 10:06:55 amAgain I find myself making the same point again when it comes to the EFL and how decisions are reached.You must remember its a membership organisation, so the EFL is the 71 clubs that participate in the competition. Its not a governing body. The EFL as a board and organisation are there to carry out the wishes of its members. That's why decisions are taken the way they are. They have to consult to find out what the various views are and then structure that into something that the majority of clubs will agree on. Nobody has ever seen a situation like this before, therefore there is no provision in the rules to accommodate what happens next. So, once the votes are cast a meeting will have to be called to then vote on the rule changes which will also need to be implemented.It is convoluted, but its all there for a reason, it means a DRFC vote is worth just as much as any other clubs. Just to add, this is the boards position;The Board’s view has been consistent throughout that playing out the remainder of the 2019/20 season when it is safe to do so is the most appropriate course of action. Ideally, all divisions would do so, but as the period of lockdown continues we have been asked to consider what would happen if a particular division was unable to complete the normal season. The Board’s unanimous view is that the League should, as one, determine a consistent position that remains as closely aligned as possible to the existing rules in the event of early curtailment.Was it the wishes of the 71 other clubs to boot Bury out of the league?
Understood S_M. I'm not calling out the EFL on this one as such.It'll need someone like Jurgen Klopp to come out and be bold and say, if we can't do it in front of our fans, we're not doing it. End of.
Quote from: Filo on May 23, 2020, 10:17:32 amQuote from: silent majority on May 23, 2020, 10:06:55 amAgain I find myself making the same point again when it comes to the EFL and how decisions are reached.You must remember its a membership organisation, so the EFL is the 71 clubs that participate in the competition. Its not a governing body. The EFL as a board and organisation are there to carry out the wishes of its members. That's why decisions are taken the way they are. They have to consult to find out what the various views are and then structure that into something that the majority of clubs will agree on. Nobody has ever seen a situation like this before, therefore there is no provision in the rules to accommodate what happens next. So, once the votes are cast a meeting will have to be called to then vote on the rule changes which will also need to be implemented.It is convoluted, but its all there for a reason, it means a DRFC vote is worth just as much as any other clubs. Just to add, this is the boards position;The Board’s view has been consistent throughout that playing out the remainder of the 2019/20 season when it is safe to do so is the most appropriate course of action. Ideally, all divisions would do so, but as the period of lockdown continues we have been asked to consider what would happen if a particular division was unable to complete the normal season. The Board’s unanimous view is that the League should, as one, determine a consistent position that remains as closely aligned as possible to the existing rules in the event of early curtailment.Was it the wishes of the 71 other clubs to boot Bury out of the league?I think that unlike the current situation there are clear rules around insolvency and financial mismanagement so they were just applying what had already been agreed
Quote from: Filo on May 23, 2020, 10:17:32 amQuote from: silent majority on May 23, 2020, 10:06:55 amAgain I find myself making the same point again when it comes to the EFL and how decisions are reached.You must remember its a membership organisation, so the EFL is the 71 clubs that participate in the competition. Its not a governing body. The EFL as a board and organisation are there to carry out the wishes of its members. That's why decisions are taken the way they are. They have to consult to find out what the various views are and then structure that into something that the majority of clubs will agree on. Nobody has ever seen a situation like this before, therefore there is no provision in the rules to accommodate what happens next. So, once the votes are cast a meeting will have to be called to then vote on the rule changes which will also need to be implemented.It is convoluted, but its all there for a reason, it means a DRFC vote is worth just as much as any other clubs. Just to add, this is the boards position;The Board’s view has been consistent throughout that playing out the remainder of the 2019/20 season when it is safe to do so is the most appropriate course of action. Ideally, all divisions would do so, but as the period of lockdown continues we have been asked to consider what would happen if a particular division was unable to complete the normal season. The Board’s unanimous view is that the League should, as one, determine a consistent position that remains as closely aligned as possible to the existing rules in the event of early curtailment.Was it the wishes of the 71 other clubs to boot Bury out of the league?Over simplifying as usual Filo.
Quote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 09:43:52 amQuote from: drfchound on May 23, 2020, 09:41:00 amThat touches on the point I have been making all along though.It is only the wrong decision if you don’t agree with it.To others, whatever decision is made, will be the right one.Because there has been no football I haven’t been looking at the DFP site much.I formed my opinion independently ie without knowing what DM thought.It seems our manager agrees with me.FWIIW, I am past caring really whether the the football resumes or not.It doesn’t matter whether you or I agree with ppg, playing on or completely wiping the records.As I keep saying, some will be happy with the outcome and others won’t.You can’t please all of the people all of the time.That’s life.
Quote from: silent majority on May 23, 2020, 10:37:57 amQuote from: Filo on May 23, 2020, 10:17:32 amQuote from: silent majority on May 23, 2020, 10:06:55 amAgain I find myself making the same point again when it comes to the EFL and how decisions are reached.You must remember its a membership organisation, so the EFL is the 71 clubs that participate in the competition. Its not a governing body. The EFL as a board and organisation are there to carry out the wishes of its members. That's why decisions are taken the way they are. They have to consult to find out what the various views are and then structure that into something that the majority of clubs will agree on. Nobody has ever seen a situation like this before, therefore there is no provision in the rules to accommodate what happens next. So, once the votes are cast a meeting will have to be called to then vote on the rule changes which will also need to be implemented.It is convoluted, but its all there for a reason, it means a DRFC vote is worth just as much as any other clubs. Just to add, this is the boards position;The Board’s view has been consistent throughout that playing out the remainder of the 2019/20 season when it is safe to do so is the most appropriate course of action. Ideally, all divisions would do so, but as the period of lockdown continues we have been asked to consider what would happen if a particular division was unable to complete the normal season. The Board’s unanimous view is that the League should, as one, determine a consistent position that remains as closely aligned as possible to the existing rules in the event of early curtailment.Was it the wishes of the 71 other clubs to boot Bury out of the league?Over simplifying as usual Filo. Not really, they are either a governing body or they are not, and if they are not, as you stated, they are carrying out the wishes of 71 clubs
Of course it matters what DM thinks.. I would expect he has an influence within the club on how it votes within the EFL set up.?
Not sure about his maths there.He is embarrassing himself, not for the first time, will all this carry on. As are his players sending out identical tweets akin to the Tories earlier today with the Cummings fiasco. That journalist we have derided on here before is also at it, crying of "injustice" and shams.If the roles were reversed they would be begging for the season to be curtailed. It's so transparently all down to the fact they would miss out and are scared all that money spent has gone to waste.
To be fair they do have a better argument than Ipswich. Each clubs' fans have an idea of their honest chances to go up if the season continued.Human nature dictates that if there is an opportunity to grasp whatever chance is available you would grab it.I bet if JR was still chairman we would have heard about us needing to be in any mix.I don't like the Peterborough chairman or that reporter but without playing another match they are probably the biggest loser.Look at poor old Barrow as well. They have waited years for a chance to return to the league and that may be snatched away from them. They might never get the chance again.