No Brexit Extension

[BigH]

Yep, Brexit is indeed history. We left the EU on 31st January.

Yet there are those who think that it's still carrying on because we are in a trade negotiation with the EU.

That (negotiation) is an entirely separate matter. It's a predominantly commercial - not political - negotiation and is about getting the best possible deal with our closest trading partner. A deal that helps preserve the economy of this country and ensures prosperity for the UK going forward. That's a patriotic duty.

All Starmer has done is point out that the government has committed to getting a deal agreed by the end of this year. He'll hold them to that date. And he'll hold them to the quality of the deal that they negotiate.

[SydneyRover]

They are of course only negotiating for second or third prize BH as having the same VIP card as a member is non negotiable and this has been known from the get go.

[BillyStubbsTears]

This is going to upset Selby.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52819126

The EU has got its shit together and has produced a massive rescue package to support Italy and Spain.

Very, very good news.

[Glyn_Wigley]

This is going to upset Selby.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52819126

The EU has got its shit together and has produced a massive rescue package to support Italy and Spain.

Very, very good news.

Nah, selby will paint that as Germany running other country's economies.

[selby]

  What do I say Glyn, not long before the shorting of the Euro starts then. Bide your time watch the markets and you can make a bob or two, it won't be long to wait.

[BillyStubbsTears]

  What do I say Glyn, not long before the shorting of the Euro starts then.

Can someone pin this message? So we can come back and check.

[BigH]

  What do I say Glyn, not long before the shorting of the Euro starts then. Bide your time watch the markets and you can make a bob or two, it won't be long to wait.

My money's on the pound being shorted way before the Euro!

[Glyn_Wigley]

  What do I say Glyn, not long before the shorting of the Euro starts then. Bide your time watch the markets and you can make a bob or two, it won't be long to wait.

When can we expect this to happen, oh wise one?

[selby]

  I can't understand this board, we have experts on Brexit, covid 19, the law and now money, and spend all your time on here telling everyone.
  Made a nice little earner on Barclays bought early April at 89p sold this morning a couple of tranches 119p I suppose the tax will go in the pot for you lot with nothing to do.

[IDM]

  I can't understand this board, we have experts on Brexit, covid 19, the law and now money, and spend all your time on here telling everyone.
  Made a nice little earner on Barclays bought early April at 89p sold this morning a couple of tranches 119p I suppose the tax will go in the pot for you lot with nothing to do.

You mean like folks like me on furlough.?  Folks like me who don’t yet know if we actually have a job in a few weeks time, with mortgages and families to support.?

Folks like me who have paid tax continuously since September 1987.?

f**k you Selby.!

[selby]

  I see Holland are loving this idea.

[IDM]

Selby if you apologise and retract your jibe I will amend my post above.

[selby]

  IDM, no need to amend anything I am not in the least offended and you can add it to the sizeable chunk of  dividends I chucked in at the beginning of April that were chucked into fight Covid 19.
  I am sorry to hear of your personal circumstances and anybody else caught up in it through no fault of their own, but if people want a pop expect one back.

[Glyn_Wigley]

  I can't understand this board, we have experts on Brexit, covid 19, the law and now money, and spend all your time on here telling everyone.
  Made a nice little earner on Barclays bought early April at 89p sold this morning a couple of tranches 119p I suppose the tax will go in the pot for you lot with nothing to do.

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You're the one telling us you're the expert on the demise of the EU and the Euro, nobody else.  Are you going to enlighten us about the timing of your prediction about the Euro anytime soon or are you just going to waffle and deflect again?

[IDM]

  IDM, no need to amend anything I am not in the least offended and you can add it to the sizeable chunk of  dividends I chucked in at the beginning of April that were chucked into fight Covid 19.
  I am sorry to hear of your personal circumstances and anybody else caught up in it through no fault of their own, but if people want a pop expect one back.

Disagreeing is one thing - you made it personal.  Yes you may not have known about my circumstances and I actually feel that I am very lucky to be able to benefit from furlough notwithstanding my worries about my job.  So the jibe about your few p of extra tax is something I find offensive.

For what it is worth I would not argue against a small increase in the income tax rate for a couple of years to help pay for this.  It could actually be a coup for the Tories - raise taxes for 2-3’years then cut them again in the run up to the next GE.

Mind you, the way they are going, that will come sooner than they want.!

[BillyStubbsTears]

IDM.

There absolutely shouldn't be ANY tax rises for a long while until we get a proper recovery going. (Except perhaps on the top rate of tax.) What Govt needs to do for the next 3 years is pour money into people's pockets, not take it out.

The political problem they have cuts both ways.

If they DON'T get the economy restarted, they are toast.

If they DO get the economy re-started, THEN it will be time for reduced spending and increased taxes. Just when an election is on the horizon.

[IDM]

I meant the principle of giving something back following my furlough, rather than a macro economic measure.

[BillyStubbsTears]

No I get that IDM. I'm just saying it's going to be a way off down the line.

[wilts rover]

IDM.

There absolutely shouldn't be ANY tax rises for a long while until we get a proper recovery going. (Except perhaps on the top rate of tax.) What Govt needs to do for the next 3 years is pour money into people's pockets, not take it out.

The political problem they have cuts both ways.

If they DON'T get the economy restarted, they are toast.

If they DO get the economy re-started, THEN it will be time for reduced spending and increased taxes. Just when an election is on the horizon.

Errr - look at the title of this thread. Would you care to revise your post on account of a further political 'difficulty' that may be awaiting down the line. 31st December 2020 to be exact.

[BillyStubbsTears]

You know what Wilts, I'd actually forgotten about that.

[wilts rover]

No probs Billy. Tell you what, do a quick Cummings and edit the post. No-one will know and I wont tell.

[IDM]

I saw a line on the bottom of the tv screen during the bbc coverage of the committee questioning Johnson today, where the EU would be happy to extend the brexit arrangements by two years.

I really cannot see why the government are hell bent on completing by the end of this year at a risk of a really bad deal, for want of an arbitrary date target.  Well I suspect they want a no deal after all.

And my view isn’t about opposition to brexit - we left in January so this is now about dotting Is and crossing Ts..

[selby]

 Two years eh, quite a change from tic toc tic toc that was their mantra don't you think.

[IDM]

The eu was always open to the date changing - it is the uk government which set that arbitrary date.

[DonnyOsmond]

Two years would be smart and in everyone's best interests. It'll allow for the financial affects of coronavirus to die down.

[drfchound]

 

[idler]

Two years would certainly give us time to try to assemble a group of negotiators fit for purpose. something that's been beyond us so far.

[SydneyRover]

  I can't understand this board, we have experts on Brexit, covid 19, the law and now money, and spend all your time on here telling everyone.
  Made a nice little earner on Barclays bought early April at 89p sold this morning a couple of tranches 119p I suppose the tax will go in the pot for you lot with nothing to do.

Gamblers only tell you when they win 

[selby]

  Sydney, I am not a gambler.

[SydneyRover]

You shouldn't feel you have to big yourself up selby we're all the same on here