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Quote from: Dagenham Rover on July 03, 2020, 08:10:14 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 03, 2020, 07:42:30 pmQuote from: selby on July 03, 2020, 07:35:26 pm People on nights in January and February checking paperwork for lorries at the border in the cold.You mean all the bureaucracy that I told everyone was going to happen? Only to get told I didn't know what I was talking about, or that it was 'Project Fear'. And Brexiters still voted for? Your mess, you clean it up.I never said you didn't know what you were talking about. I just said there was no way you could be absolutely 100% sure, your opinion based on your experience yes but you could not be absolutely sure I wasn't talking about you. I wasn't the other day as it happens.Mind you, selby acknowledges what's going to happen.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 03, 2020, 07:42:30 pmQuote from: selby on July 03, 2020, 07:35:26 pm People on nights in January and February checking paperwork for lorries at the border in the cold.You mean all the bureaucracy that I told everyone was going to happen? Only to get told I didn't know what I was talking about, or that it was 'Project Fear'. And Brexiters still voted for? Your mess, you clean it up.I never said you didn't know what you were talking about. I just said there was no way you could be absolutely 100% sure, your opinion based on your experience yes but you could not be absolutely sure
Quote from: selby on July 03, 2020, 07:35:26 pm People on nights in January and February checking paperwork for lorries at the border in the cold.You mean all the bureaucracy that I told everyone was going to happen? Only to get told I didn't know what I was talking about, or that it was 'Project Fear'. And Brexiters still voted for? Your mess, you clean it up.
People on nights in January and February checking paperwork for lorries at the border in the cold.
Glyn, that generation did it, you lot have got to prove you can do it as well. Idler there are some on here that are going to have to get on board then if they want to flourish, if they put as much effort into getting on with things as they do moaning about everything that doesn't suit the way they want things to be they might achieve their goal of a flourishing country. I won't hold my breath though.
Squeaky bum time from the ERG.... https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/cummings-is-starting-to-make-the-erg-nervous/?fbclid=IwAR2SEmUUyGTpY0Hq9sVrAQXmfSVWbpqIJCfHNipsRqlnefCiIAvIkw4Rces And they continue to peddle lies too - a free trade deal with the EU will lead to an increase in trade between us. Really? An increase? What will we be able to trade that we couldn't have done as members?
8. One could very easily conclude that the Tories simply haven't the first idea what they're doing, and haven't even begun to understand the dynamics or the complexity of trade. I've been watching closely for any sign of intelligent life but the trade minister is Liz Truss.
UK government has submitted applications to the EU to create Border Control Posts at Northern Ireland's ports.Taking back control if the EU will let us!https://twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1280448898797056000
Quote from: wilts rover on July 07, 2020, 05:43:39 pmUK government has submitted applications to the EU to create Border Control Posts at Northern Ireland's ports.Taking back control if the EU will let us!https://twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1280448898797056000Are those the control posts that Johnson consistently denied we'd need, during the General Election campaign, despite anyone with more than a passing acquaintance with truth and logic telling him we would?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 07, 2020, 07:06:40 pmQuote from: wilts rover on July 07, 2020, 05:43:39 pmUK government has submitted applications to the EU to create Border Control Posts at Northern Ireland's ports.Taking back control if the EU will let us!https://twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1280448898797056000Are those the control posts that Johnson consistently denied we'd need, during the General Election campaign, despite anyone with more than a passing acquaintance with truth and logic telling him we would?Them's the ones.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 07, 2020, 07:12:56 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 07, 2020, 07:06:40 pmQuote from: wilts rover on July 07, 2020, 05:43:39 pmUK government has submitted applications to the EU to create Border Control Posts at Northern Ireland's ports.Taking back control if the EU will let us!https://twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1280448898797056000Are those the control posts that Johnson consistently denied we'd need, during the General Election campaign, despite anyone with more than a passing acquaintance with truth and logic telling him we would?Them's the ones.Thought so.Hindsight, eh?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 07, 2020, 08:03:02 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 07, 2020, 07:12:56 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 07, 2020, 07:06:40 pmQuote from: wilts rover on July 07, 2020, 05:43:39 pmUK government has submitted applications to the EU to create Border Control Posts at Northern Ireland's ports.Taking back control if the EU will let us!https://twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1280448898797056000Are those the control posts that Johnson consistently denied we'd need, during the General Election campaign, despite anyone with more than a passing acquaintance with truth and logic telling him we would?Them's the ones.Thought so.Hindsight, eh?It's only hindsight for those who have hitherto had their eyes firmly shut to reality.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 07, 2020, 08:54:50 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 07, 2020, 08:03:02 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 07, 2020, 07:12:56 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 07, 2020, 07:06:40 pmQuote from: wilts rover on July 07, 2020, 05:43:39 pmUK government has submitted applications to the EU to create Border Control Posts at Northern Ireland's ports.Taking back control if the EU will let us!https://twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1280448898797056000Are those the control posts that Johnson consistently denied we'd need, during the General Election campaign, despite anyone with more than a passing acquaintance with truth and logic telling him we would?Them's the ones.Thought so.Hindsight, eh?It's only hindsight for those who have hitherto had their eyes firmly shut to reality.GlynI think the line is that you can't predict anything about the future because it's too hard.And then you can't criticise anything about the past because anybody can get it right with hindsight. And anyway, what has happened has happened so no point worrying about it.
How much more will it take for Brexiters to finally admit they've been mugged?
Quote from: Not Now Kato on July 07, 2020, 06:38:15 pmHow much more will it take for Brexiters to finally admit they've been mugged?I suspect they wont CARE. We're OUTAll of us can sit back now while we see if "taking back control" works for us or notIf it does, great, they were right all along - if it doesnt then there is now "Covid-19* raging away without which it might have all gone so much better - who knows a lot will be thinkingIt is so polarised as are so many issues theses days so I will stick to thinking my Vote for Remain was still the right way to vote and I have seen nothing since that encourages me to think it might be anywhere near "great"
Well the Irish are tipping an agreement in late October. their hope against hope.
Well it looks like it is kicking off over there in La La land, Varadkar coming into trouble with the greens who are themselves coming in for trouble with the farmers who need a Brexit agreement to protect their largest market. Merkel is considering sidelining Barnier to push for an agreement, and no fiscal agreement with the frugal four and the German courts dead set on not continually bailing out their med friends.
Quote from: Donnywolf on July 08, 2020, 05:42:55 amQuote from: Not Now Kato on July 07, 2020, 06:38:15 pmHow much more will it take for Brexiters to finally admit they've been mugged?I suspect they wont CARE. We're OUTAll of us can sit back now while we see if "taking back control" works for us or notIf it does, great, they were right all along - if it doesnt then there is now "Covid-19* raging away without which it might have all gone so much better - who knows a lot will be thinkingIt is so polarised as are so many issues theses days so I will stick to thinking my Vote for Remain was still the right way to vote and I have seen nothing since that encourages me to think it might be anywhere near "great"A very reasoned post wolfie.More or less my thoughts on it too.