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Why should it fall on fans? For me, the players have to take a massive hit. Their wages are inflated at all levels. Agent fees have to take a hit also. The game for me has completely lost perspective. I still get news articles popping on my social media about Manu, Chelsea et al. 'planning' to spend 80 million on this and that player. 80 million on ONE player at THIS time? I can't align with that. Thats probably enough money to keep all clubs in the lower two leagues in business for forseeable future. I am falling out of love with the sport very quickly.
To be fair the players have taken hit
Quote from: roversdude on June 04, 2020, 05:34:56 pmTo be fair the players have taken hitHave they? Genuine question because I don't know. I know the playing staff were put on furlough, but I also remember reading they were recieving a 100% of their wage. Here, infact. Did this change?https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2020/april/chief-executive-thanks-supporters-clubs-for-donation/In any case, I am obviously not really refering to right now, or really our players specifically. Its the game as a whole. Players are overpaid, agents are overpaid, transfer fees are stupid, clubs are spending too much money. I won't give money to the club if this is whats going to continue in the future.If there were some gurantees about a more sustainable system going forward, I would happily help. But it seems to me some clubs are just eager, waiting to start pissing money up the wall again.
Quote from: Copps is Magic on June 04, 2020, 03:00:00 pmWhy should it fall on fans? For me, the players have to take a massive hit. Their wages are inflated at all levels. Agent fees have to take a hit also. The game for me has completely lost perspective. I still get news articles popping on my social media about Manu, Chelsea et al. 'planning' to spend 80 million on this and that player. 80 million on ONE player at THIS time? I can't align with that. Thats probably enough money to keep all clubs in the lower two leagues in business for forseeable future. I am falling out of love with the sport very quickly.This.We only paid £140 for this season as part of the Black Friday deal so I am not going to lose sleep over losing 3 games this season and I wouldnt be hounding the club for my money back HOWEVER there will be plenty of fans who are suffering real financial hardship right now and given the games arent going to go ahead, they should be refunded and they defo shouldnt be made to feel guilty about doing so.
Quote from: Copps is Magic on June 04, 2020, 03:00:00 pmWhy should it fall on fans? For me, the players have to take a massive hit. Their wages are inflated at all levels. Agent fees have to take a hit also. The game for me has completely lost perspective. I still get news articles popping on my social media about Manu, Chelsea et al. 'planning' to spend 80 million on this and that player. 80 million on ONE player at THIS time? I can't align with that. Thats probably enough money to keep all clubs in the lower two leagues in business for forseeable future. I am falling out of love with the sport very quickly.Falling out of love with the game at the top level due to the obscene levels of players' wages and transfer fees is something I can totally empathise with Copps. But I can't ever imagine falling out of love with DRFC. Your legendary namesake excepted, Rovers players are transitory and won't be at the club for two minutes in comparison to the fans.Hoping or expecting them to do much more than defer their wages, which I believe they have, will only lead to disappointment.The fans are the permanent feature, and the club matters more to us than to any other stakeholder.So I hope we will all do whatever we can in order to help secure the future survival of our club.
Ok this is how I see it. Approaching 64 I have reasonable financial security. I have written off this season price wise and if necessary my pre-paid next seasons ST if extremely necessary to keep my team afloat. I am not a family with one wage earner on the minimum wage with kids. So to me its almost a means tested decision. Its not a question of if someone has a choice- its whether they need things. First comes family and security, whether a fiancial contribution to DRFC is appropriate is not whether someone is better or worse as a person, its how and if they can contribute. There is no simple right or wrong in this....
Copps, people only buy what they want to buy, that is why I suggested a shares issue or bonds which would give an option of being redeemed at a future date in full when the club was on a more stable footing. It could be done in many ways, even put in a separate bank account that the club could use as collateral to be drawn against as a short term loan. Wimbledon have done a similar scheme for supporters to help fund the new stadium.
A friend of mine who is on the staff at a L2 club has said that they have been given the nod for a mid September start to the new season.Of course things could change if the infection rate goes too high again.
I see that Grimsby are thinking along the same lines too.
Quote from: drfchound on June 07, 2020, 07:44:58 pmI see that Grimsby are thinking along the same lines too.Are you sure?When Grimsby Town were setting out their budget for next season, the Sky Bet League Two club began with a chastening assumption. “Our starting point is that we don’t know when football will start,” Philip Day, the chairman, says. “And if we don’t know when it is going to start, we must budget that it isn’t.”Some may raise an eyebrow at that assertion but here are the facts. Grimsby, Day says, have prepared for a reduction of between 60 and 70 per cent of the club’s £3.5 million annual turnover. Their match-day income, in last season’s accounts, represented £1.1 million. Yet season tickets for next season, which ordinarily bring in about £500,000 over the summer, have yet to go on sale. To make them available amid such uncertainty, Day believes, would be “disingenuous”.