Salary Cap voted in

[drfchound]

Fatty Evans has just become the most sort after manager in league 1

If he is the most sought after he will soon get caught as there isn’t much he can hide behind.

[albie]

As a guideline, here are the figures for L1 in 2019;
https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1291825037209632769/photo/2

Not a full list, as some clubs use a loophole in financial reporting to not publish a separate figure for salaries.
This should be against the regulations.

[since-1969]

https://www.efl.com/news/2016/january/fifty-five-years-to-the-day-20-maximum-wage-cap-abolished-by-football-league-clubs/


What if players went on strike ?

There hadn’t been a pandemic then which had changed every day life as we know it..

Have recent events just passed you by.?

So let’s take advantage of this opportunity and do a B.A and only give a job to those who’ll play for less money ! ..nice one !

[IDM]

Eh.?

“Opportunity”.?  What planet are you on.?

We will pay who we can afford to pay..

[since-1969]

Eh.?

“Opportunity”.?  What planet are you on.?

We will pay who we can afford to pay..

Pay peanuts get monkeys .

[dknward2]

Hopefully it will bring an end to players getting ridiculous wages.

Let's say 2 goalkeepers came to drfc both as good as each other same age etc nothing to split them but one asks for 2 grand a week the other 1.5 grand a week surely we get the cheaper one which means we can spend the 500 quid on someone else.

The keeper who wants 2 grand gets left behind unless he drops his demands

[IDM]

Eh.?

“Opportunity”.?  What planet are you on.?

We will pay who we can afford to pay..

Pay peanuts get monkeys .

Tell me, where do all the league one and two players, who think they are worth more than they can be offered, where do they actually go.?

[selby]

1969 most of the wage earning workers in the country have been under wage restraint for the last 10 years did you miss it?
  Footballers have been some of the very few that have not had wage restraint over that period, certainly the government have imposed it on public workers ( nurses police etc) in that period and footballers have the same minimum wage as everyone else as the lowest level as a payment. Above that limiting wage rises is not illegal, it is determined by the market, and the market in this country has just reduced for lots of workers including footballers except those at the top.
  As I pointed out to you earlier, a team with the lowest wage bill in the division Wycombe won promotion against in the playoffs three teams with the highest wage bills, which teams do you think contained the monkeys run by clowns.

[since-1969]

Eh.?

“Opportunity”.?  What planet are you on.?

We will pay who we can afford to pay..

Pay peanuts get monkeys .

Tell me, where do all the league one and two players, who think they are worth more than they can be offered, where do they actually go.?

Well it’s that sort of malevolent thinking that brought this about . A wage cap is just allowing the lower placed clubs a leg up and restricting the fair trade of the better off ones . Let’s face 1800 fans  of Accrington Stanley will have the same budget as 18000 Portsmouth fans If it goes to court and it should the EFL will loose .

[Pliskin]

I don't get how a blunt instrument like a flat salary cap is supposed to help clubs at this level.

Clubs in a financial death spiral will get hit with fines and points deductions, which always helps...

And a small League 1 club can still be run badly, spending too much, which I assume is still possible whilst not exceeding the £2.5m cap. Whereas a club like Sunderland could afford £2.5m many times over, but will be forced to have idle capital sitting around rather than putting it to good use.

What is the incentive for well run clubs to innovate and maximise revenue streams in order to gain an advantage over others?

Surely a more targeted regulation would be better?

[selby]

  Sunderland need to do that for a few years and put it to the debt they have built up.

[godlike1]

Good point on twitter about the purpose of club doncaster becoming null and void

Think we usually end season just under this salary cap at min but weve always been told Club Doncaster is where we can compete, by growing it & increasing revenue & budget. This vote goes against all that. We’ve chosen ourselves to spend our budget unsustainably now anyway though

[IDM]

Eh.?

“Opportunity”.?  What planet are you on.?

We will pay who we can afford to pay..

Pay peanuts get monkeys .

Tell me, where do all the league one and two players, who think they are worth more than they can be offered, where do they actually go.?

Well it’s that sort of malevolent thinking that brought this about . A wage cap is just allowing the lower placed clubs a leg up and restricting the fair trade of the better off ones . Let’s face 1800 fans  of Accrington Stanley will have the same budget as 18000 Portsmouth fans If it goes to court and it should the EFL will loose .

Fans hold the budget.??

Traditionally smaller clubs may still not reach the wage cap anyway..

I’m struggling to understand your points.. your arguments don’t stack up and if there’s nothing illegal  why would a court change anything.?

[IDM]

Good point on twitter about the purpose of club doncaster becoming null and void

Think we usually end season just under this salary cap at min but weve always been told Club Doncaster is where we can compete, by growing it & increasing revenue & budget. This vote goes against all that. We’ve chosen ourselves to spend our budget unsustainably now anyway though

If we gain extra revenue through club Doncaster, we rely less on the benevolence of our owner(s).?  Especially if we spend less, or no more, on wages..

[dknward2]

Who says we actually voted for this we may have voted against this

[Alan Southstand]

Am I missing something or are transfer fees not included in the cap? That’s one loophole to start with.

[since-1969]

1969 most of the wage earning workers in the country have been under wage restraint for the last 10 years did you miss it?
  Footballers have been some of the very few that have not had wage restraint over that period, certainly the government have imposed it on public workers ( nurses police etc) in that period and footballers have the same minimum wage as everyone else as the lowest level as a payment. Above that limiting wage rises is not illegal, it is determined by the market, and the market in this country has just reduced for lots of workers including footballers except those at the top.
  As I pointed out to you earlier, a team with the lowest wage bill in the division Wycombe won promotion against in the playoffs three teams with the highest wage bills, which teams do you think contained the monkeys run by clowns.

Wycombe are Owned by an American punter who pays more than DRFC would . What’s the point !!!

[Pliskin]

  Sunderland need to do that for a few years and put it to the debt they have built up.

The current owners of Sunderland have recently stated that the club is debt free.

Whether that's down to creative accountancy, who knows?

Link

[tyke1962]

  Sunderland need to do that for a few years and put it to the debt they have built up.

The current owners of Sunderland have recently stated that the club is debt free.

Whether that's down to creative accountancy, who knows?

Link

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/leaked-accounts-show-sunderlands-staggering-ps205million-financial-hole-stewart-donald-writes-debt-2847651

[Chris Black come back]

Some folk need to remember that the cap might be £2.5m but you have still got to find £2.5m to spend. For many clubs in League One certainly next season, their biggest concern will be finding half that amount, not finding ways to get round the cap. Lower league football is not sustainable on 19/20 costs and 20/21 revenues. The cap helps the expenditure gap but there is still a huge challenge with revenues.

[IDM]

1969 most of the wage earning workers in the country have been under wage restraint for the last 10 years did you miss it?
  Footballers have been some of the very few that have not had wage restraint over that period, certainly the government have imposed it on public workers ( nurses police etc) in that period and footballers have the same minimum wage as everyone else as the lowest level as a payment. Above that limiting wage rises is not illegal, it is determined by the market, and the market in this country has just reduced for lots of workers including footballers except those at the top.
  As I pointed out to you earlier, a team with the lowest wage bill in the division Wycombe won promotion against in the playoffs three teams with the highest wage bills, which teams do you think contained the monkeys run by clowns.

Wycombe are Owned by an American punter who pays more than DRFC would . What’s the point !!!

You have access to Wycombe and Doncaster’s wage bills.?  Put up or shut up..

If a club has wealthy owners it doesn’t mean they pay big wages.

[IDM]

Am I missing something or are transfer fees not included in the cap? That’s one loophole to start with.

Do players receive the transfer fees, as part of their wages.?

Why would this be a loophole.?  Yes richer clubs could pay big money for better players, but those players won’t get a big salary, will they.?

[Bentley Bullet]

What will be the advantage of clubs having wealthy owners?

[elmsallrover]

Clubs will start employing players wife's girlfriends, mums and dads it will be like going  back to the days of the brown paper bag

[wilts rover]

Must admit I am suprised at the number of Rovers fans against fair sporting competition and arguing that rich people should have an advantage.

Just goes to show...

[jmt23]

Rather than this cap, they should have correctly enforced what is a natural budget for each club.
The EFL should employ a group of accountants that clubs have to supply accounts too, then based on their findings they are allocated a realistic budget, that they cannot overspend. They would also shut all loopholes, funding should only come from validated income streams created. Clubs found cheating should be relegated to the lowest league. Stop all this messing about with silly points and fines - they do nothing.

Football should not be about the richest owner ploughing money in, or creating debts gambling to get higher. It would then be about the natural order, and coaching of players.

I realise we have benefited, and still are benefiting from wealthy owners, but it is just bonkers losing 2 million a year, and we are all fooling ourselves we are well run.

This also creates a natural salary cap, where agents and players have to get real.

[tyke1962]

Whilst I can understand the salary cap and the reasons behind it at the same time I sense a divide developing between the Championship and league's one and two .

Ending the season in league one and two but the Championship clubs got back on the pitch in July and finished the season off was the start of it .

Now we have the salary caps .

We need to be careful here because I can envisage the Championship becoming a PL2 if these divides continue .

There's been talk of this for a while now and the present circumstances could see this bear fruit .

The Championship clubs breaking away to negotiate their own tv deal and governance may not be too far away .

This in reality will make the step up from League One to the Championship for the promoted clubs even more difficult than it already is .

Parachute payments when you are relegated from the Championship may form part of that .

It's not something I wish to see .

[since-1969]

Leagues 1&2 have consigned themselves to being irrelevant and offering nothing now more then a place to put  second or third string team players from the PL or Championship clubs. Grass roots has been reborn as L1&L2 and now that they’ve effectively been neutered  have no future say in developments going forward . The EFL is now going throw it weight behind creating. PL 2 before clubs loose patience and go their own way .

[IDM]

What will be the advantage of clubs having wealthy owners?

Bigger transfer fees, better youth set up, paying more for the best under 21 players available outside the salary cap, better stadium facilities, better equipment, better and more non playing staff such as physios, masseurs, dieticians etc, better quality pitch, better grounds staff, better facilities all round..

All the things outside the playing budget really..

[selby]

  You don't watch what is i9n front of you 69, both in the playoff semi final broadcast and the final itself broadcast it was stated that Wycombes wage bill was actually the smallest in League 1 last season.
  Also when the football shut down was imposed, in the national press there was shortly after an article about Wycombe being the first league club to lay staff off and also make backroom staff redundant because of their income streams.
  Get up with what is happening in front of your eyes, Football is bigger than a few rich men and spivs who may well disappear and good riddance, yes I can see the teams moving towards feeder clubs for the youngsters from the premiership teams, feeder clubs by the back door if you want, but it will also bring the standar, and d in the lower league up, not down.