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Quote from: GazLaz on August 12, 2020, 08:01:58 amHe’s another player we could have potentially made a profit on but we let their contract expire. We are very poor in this scenario. Even if we only for 200-300k for him, that’s a lot of money for us. We didn’t “let” his contract expire though - he was offered a new one ages ago but chose not to sign..We can’t force players to sign.
He’s another player we could have potentially made a profit on but we let their contract expire. We are very poor in this scenario. Even if we only for 200-300k for him, that’s a lot of money for us.
Quote from: IDM on August 12, 2020, 08:46:43 amBecause they finished higher in the league.?Are you saying that a 9th place finish (Covid or not) under DM, after the palaver of last summer - plus the way we were playing under DM and the direction we were going, is frustrating.?That one of our local rivals finished above us and got promoted, matters little.The question I ask is WHY they finished higher up the league. If it was because they pay higher wages then I suggest it isn't a very level playing pitch. If that is the case I can't see any reason why they can afford to invest more in the team than we can in ours. If it is down to our obsession with self-sufficiency maybe our investment bar is set a little too low compared to theirs.
Because they finished higher in the league.?Are you saying that a 9th place finish (Covid or not) under DM, after the palaver of last summer - plus the way we were playing under DM and the direction we were going, is frustrating.?That one of our local rivals finished above us and got promoted, matters little.
Quote from: IDM on August 12, 2020, 08:24:00 amQuote from: GazLaz on August 12, 2020, 08:01:58 amHe’s another player we could have potentially made a profit on but we let their contract expire. We are very poor in this scenario. Even if we only for 200-300k for him, that’s a lot of money for us. We didn’t “let” his contract expire though - he was offered a new one ages ago but chose not to sign..We can’t force players to sign.We let it run into the last season. If we had offered an extension at the and of his first season I’m sure he would have signed. We can’t let saleable assets leave for free as often as we do.
Quote from: NewDonny on August 12, 2020, 01:42:59 amQuote from: tyke1962 on August 12, 2020, 12:11:51 amJust my two penneth on this without the emotional attachment .You guys say he is a very good player in league one which is fair enough and I wouldn't doubt it .However he may have gone to the Championship but signing for Rotherham United suggests there wasn't exactly a host of clubs bidding for his signature .There was a at least four or five of our players in our promotion team of 2018/19 who were top league one players , Cavare , McGeehan , Pinillos , Thiam .And about four or five championship appearances behind them before they were binned on the strength they weren't good enough to make that step up .He's signed for Rotherham , the best show in town as far as he's concerned .You've lost a player to a local rival fair enough it ain't great but look at the bigger picture here .All things point to a player who may not be up to the standard of championship football , if he was then Rotherham wouldn't be in the market for him .He's freed up some spends .Logical thinking on this one in my opinion .Nothing at all logical about your post tbh Tyke. In fact probably just about wrong on every point. Simple question for you though, being a Barnsley supporter did you attend any Donny games this last season just gone?After trying to discredit people saying he was going to Rotherham, your opinion means nothing, will you become New Miller now? P.S. Hulls relegation pissed on his bonfire a bit eh?
Quote from: tyke1962 on August 12, 2020, 12:11:51 amJust my two penneth on this without the emotional attachment .You guys say he is a very good player in league one which is fair enough and I wouldn't doubt it .However he may have gone to the Championship but signing for Rotherham United suggests there wasn't exactly a host of clubs bidding for his signature .There was a at least four or five of our players in our promotion team of 2018/19 who were top league one players , Cavare , McGeehan , Pinillos , Thiam .And about four or five championship appearances behind them before they were binned on the strength they weren't good enough to make that step up .He's signed for Rotherham , the best show in town as far as he's concerned .You've lost a player to a local rival fair enough it ain't great but look at the bigger picture here .All things point to a player who may not be up to the standard of championship football , if he was then Rotherham wouldn't be in the market for him .He's freed up some spends .Logical thinking on this one in my opinion .Nothing at all logical about your post tbh Tyke. In fact probably just about wrong on every point. Simple question for you though, being a Barnsley supporter did you attend any Donny games this last season just gone?
Just my two penneth on this without the emotional attachment .You guys say he is a very good player in league one which is fair enough and I wouldn't doubt it .However he may have gone to the Championship but signing for Rotherham United suggests there wasn't exactly a host of clubs bidding for his signature .There was a at least four or five of our players in our promotion team of 2018/19 who were top league one players , Cavare , McGeehan , Pinillos , Thiam .And about four or five championship appearances behind them before they were binned on the strength they weren't good enough to make that step up .He's signed for Rotherham , the best show in town as far as he's concerned .You've lost a player to a local rival fair enough it ain't great but look at the bigger picture here .All things point to a player who may not be up to the standard of championship football , if he was then Rotherham wouldn't be in the market for him .He's freed up some spends .Logical thinking on this one in my opinion .
Of course they will pay more they are a league above usDid they pay more last season? I don’t know but then KS didn’t leave last season If we are going on promotion equating to wages paid then Sunderland should have walked the league
Quote from: roversdude on August 12, 2020, 09:19:58 amOf course they will pay more they are a league above usDid they pay more last season? I don’t know but then KS didn’t leave last season If we are going on promotion equating to wages paid then Sunderland should have walked the league The question was did Rotherham pay out more wages for their team than we did last season?
The question was did Rotherham pay out more wages for their team than we did last season?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on August 12, 2020, 09:31:09 amThe question was did Rotherham pay out more wages for their team than we did last season?Not sure what relevance that question has - totally hypothetical........ money doesn't equal success - ask Sunderland.
Quote from: Metalmicky on August 12, 2020, 09:49:12 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on August 12, 2020, 09:31:09 amThe question was did Rotherham pay out more wages for their team than we did last season?Not sure what relevance that question has - totally hypothetical........ money doesn't equal success - ask Sunderland. No it doesn't, but lack of it guarantees failure.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on August 12, 2020, 09:06:16 amQuote from: IDM on August 12, 2020, 08:46:43 amBecause they finished higher in the league.?Are you saying that a 9th place finish (Covid or not) under DM, after the palaver of last summer - plus the way we were playing under DM and the direction we were going, is frustrating.?That one of our local rivals finished above us and got promoted, matters little.The question I ask is WHY they finished higher up the league. If it was because they pay higher wages then I suggest it isn't a very level playing pitch. If that is the case I can't see any reason why they can afford to invest more in the team than we can in ours. If it is down to our obsession with self-sufficiency maybe our investment bar is set a little too low compared to theirs.Obsession with self sufficiency? Pumping in £2m a year hardly fits with that description BB.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on August 12, 2020, 09:52:43 amQuote from: Metalmicky on August 12, 2020, 09:49:12 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on August 12, 2020, 09:31:09 amThe question was did Rotherham pay out more wages for their team than we did last season?Not sure what relevance that question has - totally hypothetical........ money doesn't equal success - ask Sunderland. No it doesn't, but lack of it guarantees failure.Does it.?What was Wycombe’s wage bill last season.?
Quote from: IDM on August 12, 2020, 10:24:40 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on August 12, 2020, 09:52:43 amQuote from: Metalmicky on August 12, 2020, 09:49:12 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on August 12, 2020, 09:31:09 amThe question was did Rotherham pay out more wages for their team than we did last season?Not sure what relevance that question has - totally hypothetical........ money doesn't equal success - ask Sunderland. No it doesn't, but lack of it guarantees failure.Does it.?What was Wycombe’s wage bill last season.?I don't know, you tell me. There is always an exception to every rule, and if Wycombe have spent less money than anyone else below them in the league then that is an example of one of them. Having said that, such exceptions don't last and Wycombe will without any shadow of doubt struggle next season unless they invest more money into the team.
Didn't Sadlier have form for running contracts down. Im not sure the club could have done much in this case, other than break the bank to keep him.is it a way of earning extra cash via signing on fees - I don't know?New Donny was very well informed about all things Sadlier - was it him, his dad, his agent? Whoever it was, was very confident it wasn't Rotherham he would be playing for next season. I strongly suspect that clubs higher up lost interest in him, and he took Rotherham as a last option.It is still a league higher, and I dare bet it has nearly doubled his wage. Good luck to him.Somebody made the point about players fitting into a certain style where they flourish, and Rotherham not being a good fit for Sadlier - I am unsure if this is the case for Sadlier, but it is a great point. Who would have thought the lads we had here that are now playing at Sheff U in the Premier League, would ever do that?
Yes we were sure he wasn't
BB why are you on here ?
ND was 100% informed on Kieran Sadlier and his movements. No doubt about that.Bentley - I understand your starting point here. We are of comparable size and stature to Rotherham and taking only that into account shouldn't be left in the dust by them. However...In 2014 they got into the Championship under Steve Evans as we fell out of it. We subsequently trundled into oblivion for a couple of years whilst they spent three consecutive seasons at that level, and although they were seasons of struggle they allowed Rotherham United to build a stronger foundation since this was a time period when the Championship got ever further away from League One in terms of finance and resource. 2020/21 will be the fifth season in seven that the Millers have spent as a second tier club.Add to that the continuity they've had by sticking with Paul Warne for the past four seasons (including two relegations) and it is plain to see why they have a better starting point to us when in League One with us.Until we get that stability and a good platform to be in the Championship it will simply be harder for us to compete than our neighbours.