JCH

[GazLaz]

One time Rovers loanee and one time possible Marquis replacement JCH is joining Peterborough for £1.2m. Not a bad replacement for Ivan Toney.

[IDM]

Did very well at Bristol, improving with age.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Where's Toney gone?

[Wiltshire Exile]

Where's Toney gone?

Not gone yet, but Celtic might be in the running:
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/18675502.darren-bent-insists-celtic-still-sign-peterboroughs-ivan-toney-despite-ajeti-purchase/

[DonnyOsmond]

Where's Toney gone?

Brentford for £10m (£6m with clauses) seemed to be the shout. Not gone yet.

[swintonrover]

Where's Toney gone?

Brentford for £10m (£6m with clauses) seemed to be the shout. Not gone yet.

If that's true we got properly ripped off for Marquis.

[Rovers91]

He turned Brentford down with sounds of things thinking he will get a bigger move, sounds like that Barry Fry said he doesnt expect him there for start of season.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I see the link there with Celtic and Gavin Strachan. With Celtic now out of Champions league, Brentford might be his best option.

[IDM]

Where's Toney gone?

Brentford for £10m (£6m with clauses) seemed to be the shout. Not gone yet.

If that's true we got properly ripped off for Marquis.

Did we.?  If Toney goes to Brentford he will be at a club with realistic chances of getting to the EPL next season.  If Toney scores goals at Brentford and helps them go up, that makes the £10million worth paying - hence the value.

What is the “value” to Portsmouth of having a proven league one goal scorer help get them up to the championship.?  A lot less I reckon.!

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Where's Toney gone?

Brentford for £10m (£6m with clauses) seemed to be the shout. Not gone yet.

If that's true we got properly ripped off for Marquis.

Well we didn't but some clubs play around with silly numbers! Still, they have to make room for the bungs!

[Campsall rover]

Where's Toney gone?

Brentford for £10m (£6m with clauses) seemed to be the shout. Not gone yet.

Where is all this money coming from. Brentford paying 10m !!! although Celtic seem favourites as far as i can see.
I know Brentford have wealthy owners but that’s insane. Is Toney worth that sort of money?  Only time will tell.
He hasn’t played at a high level before. Wigan on loan, a few games in the Championship.

Massive gamble at that sort of money.

Peterborough will be well set up with that sort of money. McAnthony’s pockets will be burning.
Let’s see if DF is the man to take them to where McAnthony wants them to go.

Very much doubt it myself. Let’s see.

[selby]

  Not a bad advertisement for poor old smaller clubs with no money.

[Metalmicky]

Clarke Harris did OK for Bristol Rovers last year - without doubt his best year to date.  According to Soccerstats he made 35 appearances and scored 16 goals in all competitions.... although 5 of these were from the penalty spot.

In previous seasons he has not been as prolific and this will be a test of whether he can produce when the pressure is on him.  It's a big fee for someone who isn't a consistent goal scorer and time will tell if it's money well spent. 

[Campsall rover]

  Not a bad advertisement for poor old smaller clubs with no money.

Are you referring to Brentford Brian?

They are not a club with no money though at the present time.
If their owners pull the plug then they are in the, well we all know what don’t we.

[dickos1]

The majority of Brentford’s wealth has been generated from great business in the Transfer market. Have a quick look at the signings they’ve made and then how much they’ve sold them on for.

[DonnyOsmond]

Where's Toney gone?

Brentford for £10m (£6m with clauses) seemed to be the shout. Not gone yet.

Where is all this money coming from. Brentford paying 10m !!! although Celtic seem favourites as far as i can see.
I know Brentford have wealthy owners but that’s insane. Is Toney worth that sort of money?  Only time will tell.
He hasn’t played at a high level before. Wigan on loan, a few games in the Championship.

Massive gamble at that sort of money.

Peterborough will be well set up with that sort of money. McAnthony’s pockets will be burning.
Let’s see if DF is the man to take them to where McAnthony wants them to go.

Very much doubt it myself. Let’s see.

They'll probably make £40m from selling Mbuemo, Watkins and Benrahma.

[Colemans Left Hook]

:it took me almost a day to work out who the hell JCH actually was ... Irrelevant history in my world but at least i know now

[GazLaz]

Buying a replacement before you sell an asset is the way to operate. We could learn a lot.

[Chris Black come back]

Brentford have all their chips on player development. If that fails, they are in big trouble as their income otherwise is one of very lowest in the Championship and they pay pretty much the lowest wages in that league. As an example, in 18/19 they had same wage bill as Millwall. Even with those low wages they have wages at 125pc of income. So it just needs their transfer machine to fail once and they are in trouble.

Yes they are getting a new stadium that might alter the underlying income position, but it is only marginally bigger than Keepmoat (15k vs 17k). Being a London club helps attract players as well.

But, they are a club built on risk. They seem to have a decent model identifying and building up players but that is inherently risky (if they were certs, they would not be at Brentford) and you can only ride your luck for so long.

[DonnyOsmond]

Buying a replacement before you sell an asset is the way to operate. We could learn a lot.

Seems a bit daft in case it falls through and then you have two high earners and one of them isn't playing.

[Campsall rover]

Buying a replacement before you sell an asset is the way to operate. We could learn a lot.

Got deep pockets then have you GazLaz? Just send the money to Gavin. Sure he will appreciate your contribution to the cause.

Can be a very risky way to do business don’t you think?  What happens if the sale of our player didn’t go through at the last minute.
Don’t suppose you thought of that.
Look if you prefer the ‘Posh‘ model why don’t you go and support them.
All you do is slag off DRFC’s recruitment.

We are solvent, we will be solvent in 12 months time. Probably solvent in 5 yrs time.
Will Peterborough United be solvent?  Possibly if they are sensible with their 10m bonanza, or will they spend it all?

[Chris Black come back]

Spending 10pc of what you are likely to get for Toney is prudent. Spending 10m would be madness but the price for JCH is a fraction of what they will get for Toney.

[NickDRFC]

  Not a bad advertisement for poor old smaller clubs with no money.

Are you referring to Brentford Brian?

They are not a club with no money though at the present time.
If their owners pull the plug then they are in the, well we all know what don’t we.

Last summer they made £30m+ from the sales of Maupay & Konsa, the season before £20m from Mepham. This summer they could quite easily generate another £30m - £40m from player sales. It wouldn't surprise me if we've had more money put in by our owners to keep us propped up over the last few years than they have.

[DonnyOsmond]

  Not a bad advertisement for poor old smaller clubs with no money.

Are you referring to Brentford Brian?

They are not a club with no money though at the present time.
If their owners pull the plug then they are in the, well we all know what don’t we.

Are you confusing them with Bournemouth?

[CJK]

I think £1.2million is a big risk on an unproven League One striker. He hasn’t scored a lot of goals consistently yet like Marquis had. Time will tell but I suppose it’s only a small investment out of approx £6million windfall.

[DonnyOsmond]

  Not a bad advertisement for poor old smaller clubs with no money.

Are you referring to Brentford Brian?

They are not a club with no money though at the present time.
If their owners pull the plug then they are in the, well we all know what don’t we.

Last summer they made £30m+ from the sales of Maupay & Konsa, the season before £20m from Mepham. This summer they could quite easily generate another £30m - £40m from player sales. It wouldn't surprise me if we've had more money put in by our owners to keep us propped up over the last few years than they have.

Aye. It's not just some rich benefactor like most clubs pushing for the top 6 at that level. It's their recruitment that does it for them. They have a squad full of assets which can be sold for multiple times of what they were signed for. I'm guessing seeing a club like that making profit and succeeding is what a lot of our fans recent disdain is about. They want us to sign our own players to make a profit and rinse and repeat.

[silent majority]

  Not a bad advertisement for poor old smaller clubs with no money.

Are you referring to Brentford Brian?

They are not a club with no money though at the present time.
If their owners pull the plug then they are in the, well we all know what don’t we.

Last summer they made £30m+ from the sales of Maupay & Konsa, the season before £20m from Mepham. This summer they could quite easily generate another £30m - £40m from player sales. It wouldn't surprise me if we've had more money put in by our owners to keep us propped up over the last few years than they have.

Should we just ignore the £100m that Matthew Bentham put in as well?

That's what kick started them. And I understand that talk during the close season was that he wanted his money back.

[Chris Black come back]

A lot of people have drunk the Brentford moneyball Kool-Aid. It is true they have found an impressive revenue stream from player development and sales but they still carry a lot of debt and are a club with a 17k stadium. If the conveyor belt of transfers fails just one year they have paper thin revenues to fall back on.

[EasyforDennis]

  Not a bad advertisement for poor old smaller clubs with no money.

Are you referring to Brentford Brian?

They are not a club with no money though at the present time.
If their owners pull the plug then they are in the, well we all know what don’t we.

Isn't that exactly the same position we are in?

[DearneValleyRover]

JCH had a good season last year but he doesn’t have a good injury record.