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scawsby steve

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« on October 27, 2020, 02:41:15 am by scawsby steve »
His open letter to us all clearly shows an effort to be as enthusiastic as he can under these difficult circumstances.

However, it also reminds us of the threatening position we'll be in if crowds don't return at all this season, and there's no significant rescue package.

We're on a wing and a prayer now.



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Retdon1

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« Reply #1 on October 27, 2020, 08:14:39 am by Retdon1 »
If we’re in this position you do wonder how bad it must be at many others

silent majority

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« Reply #2 on October 27, 2020, 08:37:18 am by silent majority »
It’s very close at quite a few clubs now, they’re beginning to struggle paying wages.

I understand those have had a further advance on their solidarity payments meaning they’re now mortgaged up to the hilt.

since-1969

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« Reply #3 on October 27, 2020, 09:14:26 am by since-1969 »
His open letter to us all clearly shows an effort to be as enthusiastic as he can under these difficult circumstances.

However, it also reminds us of the threatening position we'll be in if crowds don't return at all this season, and there's no significant rescue package.

We're on a wing and a prayer now.
Considering what has been said about there being no survival  plans in place , should the season have started at all . In L1-2 . Perhaps a plan would have been ushered through if the threat of not starting had been likely.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 09:21:14 am by since-1969 »

selby

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« Reply #4 on October 27, 2020, 09:30:36 am by selby »
  They should do what local government do, instead of keeping things covered up to save face say it how it is, publicise their difficulties so as to  show the difference between the haves and have nots in the game and shame the premiership at every opportunity. They need some sort of governance and tax imposed on the big clubs who are still poring money out of the game to spivs and shysters who hang on to the game for their own gain
  The small clubs want to start getting publicity as to their situation or they will just be allowed to slip away while the fat cats in charge do what they have done since March, sit on their fat arses  coining it in doing nothing but push the plate around the table and occasionally have a meeting and release a statement.
  Until people realise that the power brokers within the Premiership sides have a vested interest in the rest of the football pyramid failing and have been playing that game from day one as I predicted from the start, and that the EFL management is completely unfit for office and are complicit with the Premiership power brokers and should be sacked in one sod all will get done.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 09:37:21 am by selby »

the vicar

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« Reply #5 on October 27, 2020, 11:43:42 am by the vicar »
If they had not started again more clubs would have gone out of business by now as they still have there running costs ie players wages, but with starting at least they get a bit to soften the blow in a smaller way to normal

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« Reply #6 on October 27, 2020, 12:48:08 pm by since-1969 »
If they had not started again more clubs would have gone out of business by now as they still have there running costs ie players wages, but with starting at least they get a bit to soften the blow in a smaller way to normal
Yes perhaps your correct ..but it’s hard to see the problem if things appear manageable on the surface .
Maybe if clubs had stood as one and said no to restarting the season then perhaps the EFL would have had more leverage to get a deal from the Bigger clubs , who don’t want to fund another lower clubs bank account with their cash .
When players are being bought for several millions even in the lower leagues , it’s hard to see who’s in trouble and who isn’t .

 With the wage cap now in place it looked  like that alone solved the L1-2 problems in the eyes of some and when you add in that supporters have prepaid season tickets sales which have gone along way to keeping cash flow into many of the clubs then pleading hardship seemed to fallen on deaf ears .

The EFL and even the Premier league have delayed in putting their hands in the their pockets until a more formal arrangement can be put inplace giving them even more powers and ultimately more money !!
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 01:44:30 pm by since-1969 »

DRNaith

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« Reply #7 on October 27, 2020, 01:13:57 pm by DRNaith »
I agree that it is hard to perceive that there is a problem in the background when we are fielding a good team and fulfilling fixtures

the vicar

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« Reply #8 on October 27, 2020, 01:34:06 pm by the vicar »
The only thing with the prem deal is they want to take control over all things football, and I can see it it happens then I’m sure we will see there u23s in our league

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« Reply #9 on October 27, 2020, 01:58:13 pm by selby »
  DRNaith the problem is not our club, it does have problems that can be solved if someone grasps the nettle, stop all the pissing about and slow timing and get things sorted out with the governance of the game who are the problem.
  The reason that the majority of football governing bodies do not want government intervention is to keep the system completely in the power of the few where the big bucks can be skimmed off.
 As I wrote on this forum in March the EFL had a very narrow time line to get anything off the Premiership before they would start to use the situation to their own ends, anyone who didn't see this coming along have been going around with their eyes shut and brains disengaged since the inception of the Premier league, not one thing introduced into football since then has been to the benefit of the game as a whole.
  The premiership is now the property of six or seven teams, fixture starting times arranged for TV and not the supporters who attend matches, the League cup the property of the six or seven clubs who don't enter until they only have to play four games to win it, replays abandoned so they can play in Europe taking potentially millions of pounds away from smaller clubs who used to get a share percentage wise from every cup game.
  Basically they have been shit houses and still are and we the smaller clubs and the supporters of every club have been mugs for letting it happen.
   And now they have the chance to go for the kill. because everyone stepped back and like pillocks stood back expecting the football family to do the right thing when the same lot have undermined them all this century and beyond.
  So now things have gone on long enough for the top clubs to point to their own losses of income plead poverty and look at imposing a system the other clubs because of finances that will keep them even more subservient in the future. There is only one way to avoid smaller clubs and football becoming irrelevant and that is for a couple of seasons government intervention and a redistribution of TV money to the smaller clubs until a governing body good enough to run the game could be put together.
  The only resulting negative would be the top sides not being as strong in Europe and less foreign players motivated by money only who the hell would be bothered about that? only the few, and the top British players would have to be good enough to play abroad.

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« Reply #10 on October 27, 2020, 03:15:45 pm by since-1969 »
All big clubs know how things are done in the lower leagues and aren’t willing to give money where it may not be used for  it’s intended purpose. Whilst ever a transaction for players   are logged as “undisclosed “then its fair to assume its not in the clubs interest to let everyone know who’s paid what , and these  type of under the counter deals are rife throughout the leagues . IMO a fairer sponsorship from the start of Sky providing a firm % of the deal should have been made with NO parachute payments at all .

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« Reply #11 on October 27, 2020, 03:35:20 pm by selby »
I agree 1969, and there is no doubt that it is the bigger Championship sides that are holding league 1 and 2 back in the current situation.
   They will want the bigger slice of the pie, are seen by Premiership sides as their immediate threat to their own position so are less likely to want to help them and carry by far the largest debt having chased the promised land of promotion and failed,  or have players on their hands on massive contracts after falling out of the premiership.
 Really They don't deserve being helped, and if any teams were to go if it were the Derby's, Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Readings of this world I would have very little sympathy.
  Rather than just accepting that they are a Championship side and therefore should get more of any agreement, How they have got into their situation should be taken into consideration and looked on accordingly and less money made available to badly managed clubs.

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« Reply #12 on October 27, 2020, 05:11:55 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Since the fuss about the Big Picture, it's all gone quiet again. Everyone in their positions of power and very generous salaries knows urgent action is needed yet.... They seem to wait for someone else to make a move. Too many people on cushy numbers me thinks!

Jimmydee

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« Reply #13 on October 27, 2020, 07:01:35 pm by Jimmydee »
Where can I read GB’s statement?

drfchound

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« Reply #14 on October 27, 2020, 07:10:41 pm by drfchound »
Where can I read GB’s statement?






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« Reply #15 on October 28, 2020, 10:22:34 am by PDX_Rover »
The Premier League was the worst thing to happen to English football. Completely unnecessary. Rupert f**king Murdoch.

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« Reply #16 on October 28, 2020, 02:32:29 pm by EasyforDennis »
The Premier League was the worst thing to happen to English football. Completely unnecessary. Rupert f**king Murdoch.

Rupert Murdoch is a businessman and opportunist. It isn't his fault that football club owners were greedy and took the money.

PDX_Rover

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« Reply #17 on October 28, 2020, 03:12:36 pm by PDX_Rover »
The Premier League was the worst thing to happen to English football. Completely unnecessary. Rupert f**king Murdoch.

Rupert Murdoch is a businessman and opportunist. It isn't his fault that football club owners were greedy and took the money.

True, but he’s still a rancid canker of a human.

 

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