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Retdon1

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #30 on November 19, 2020, 07:12:24 pm by Retdon1 »
A quick glance at some championship clubs squads and there’s a few current 3rd choices keepers that would do a job for us

Joe day - Cardiff
Joe Wildsmith - sheff w
Josh Vickers - Rotherham
Sam Walker - Reading


Wildsmith has been playing for Wednesday hasn’t he?

Dawson has predominantly been their number 1 this season and Pulis said yesterday that he’s bringing Westwood back into the squad



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IDM

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #31 on November 19, 2020, 07:19:41 pm by IDM »
I don’t like us having our number one choice keeper as a loan player.
We have had issues with it in the past.
I agree that Dieng was an exception to that.

Sullivan wasn’t a bad loanee was he.?

Not sure it matters, especially as due to the circumstances we have to have a loanee, or recall Lawlor.

Alan Southstand

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #32 on November 19, 2020, 07:22:19 pm by Alan Southstand »
I’d rather recall Neville Southall.

drfchound

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #33 on November 19, 2020, 07:23:32 pm by drfchound »
I don’t like us having our number one choice keeper as a loan player.
We have had issues with it in the past.
I agree that Dieng was an exception to that.

Sullivan wasn’t a bad loanee was he.?

Not sure it matters, especially as due to the circumstances we have to have a loanee, or recall Lawlor.





Sulli was a great loanee and eventually became our own player.
I couldn’t foresee Bursik signing permanently for us though.
Was it Sam Johnstone who deserted at the last minute leaving us in the lurch just before a game.
I hope we give Jones a run a first choice keeper and give him the opportunity to make the post his own.

Metalmicky

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #34 on November 19, 2020, 07:42:31 pm by Metalmicky »
I’d rather recall Neville Southall.

I don't think you would...


Drover

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #35 on November 19, 2020, 08:08:35 pm by Drover »
I’d rather recall Neville Southall.

I don't think you would...



Why not,he'd fill the net?

Jersey Rover

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #36 on November 19, 2020, 09:00:15 pm by Jersey Rover »
Big loss that, played so far up at times like having a third centre back. England international obviously quality, not sure it’s time to stick an inexperienced keeper between the sticks. Need a solid replacement

roversdude

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #37 on November 19, 2020, 09:03:31 pm by roversdude »
Couldn’t really class Bursik as experienced

PDX_Rover

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #38 on November 19, 2020, 10:10:31 pm by PDX_Rover »
Jones has been very good when I’ve seen him.

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #39 on November 19, 2020, 11:28:11 pm by donny dave »
To be honest I'm not that fussed that he has gone back

Give Jones a chance on Saturday and if he does well then forget about another keeper
  I thought I was the only one that thought jones was the better keeper

DearneValleyRover

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #40 on November 20, 2020, 07:16:14 am by DearneValleyRover »
To be honest I'm not that fussed that he has gone back

Give Jones a chance on Saturday and if he does well then forget about another keeper
  I thought I was the only one that thought jones was the better keeper


No, I thought Jones looked more confident and assured too

GazLaz

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #41 on November 20, 2020, 07:26:11 am by GazLaz »
To be honest I'm not that fussed that he has gone back

Give Jones a chance on Saturday and if he does well then forget about another keeper
  I thought I was the only one that thought jones was the better keeper


No, I thought Jones looked more confident and assured too

Jones was poor in the FA Cup. Looked very nervy.

SoundbiteBarmyArmy

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #42 on November 20, 2020, 07:36:09 am by SoundbiteBarmyArmy »
We after a replacement then?

NickDRFC

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #43 on November 20, 2020, 07:47:51 am by NickDRFC »
I didn’t rate Bursik and won’t particularly miss him but haven’t seen enough of Jones to form an opinion. I hope we are bringing someone else in who is good enough to immediately be number one (like Bursik was thought to be) and Jones continues to challenge and wait in the wings.

Campsall rover

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #44 on November 20, 2020, 08:15:27 am by Campsall rover »
I don%u2019t like us having our number one choice keeper as a loan player.
We have had issues with it in the past.
I agree that Dieng was an exception to that.
This is Louis Jones big chance to grab that shirt and become Rovers no1 keeper.
If he does he could possibly be our keeper for many years to come.

It would be good to see one of our own come through the ranks and be a regular 1st team player.
Come on Louis you can do it. There is less pressure on him as there are no fans in the ground so that may be an advantage to a goalkeeper.
There is nothing worse for a young keeper than making a mistake in front of your own fans and getting heckled. Or away fans making adverse comments on your ability. ( I put that very politely )

I think he will be a big success and if that is the case we may not see Bursik in a Rovers shirt again.
He will not be brought back to sit on the bench. Stoke City will not want that.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2020, 08:26:53 am by Campsall rover »

IDM

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #45 on November 20, 2020, 08:25:32 am by IDM »
To be honest I'm not that fussed that he has gone back

Give Jones a chance on Saturday and if he does well then forget about another keeper
  I thought I was the only one that thought jones was the better keeper


No, I thought Jones looked more confident and assured too

Jones was poor in the FA Cup. Looked very nervy.

Can’t say I agree with you.  He barely had anything to do in a 5-1 win, he had little chance with their goal and the couple of chances they had towards the end of the game were not of his making - he had one decent save as far as I can recall.

I watched the first two pizza cup games where he was very good and looks assured.

If he starts tomorrow I wouldn’t give it a second thought.

Campsall rover

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #46 on November 20, 2020, 08:31:36 am by Campsall rover »
To be honest I'm not that fussed that he has gone back

Give Jones a chance on Saturday and if he does well then forget about another keeper
  I thought I was the only one that thought jones was the better keeper


No, I thought Jones looked more confident and assured too

Jones was poor in the FA Cup. Looked very nervy.

Can%u2019t say I agree with you.  He barely had anything to do in a 5-1 win, he had little chance with their goal and the couple of chances they had towards the end of the game were not of his making - he had one decent save as far as I can recall.

I watched the first two pizza cup games where he was very good and looks assured.

If he starts tomorrow I wouldn%u2019t give it a second thought.
I think GazLaz is just trying to be controversial. ( Again )

How on earth can he have been poor & look nervy. He had very little to do and the goal was in no way down to him as you said IDM.

roversdude

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #47 on November 20, 2020, 08:33:30 am by roversdude »
To be honest I'm not that fussed that he has gone back

Give Jones a chance on Saturday and if he does well then forget about another keeper
  I thought I was the only one that thought jones was the better keeper


No, I thought Jones looked more confident and assured too

Jones was poor in the FA Cup. Looked very nervy.

Can’t say I agree with you.  He barely had anything to do in a 5-1 win, he had little chance with their goal and the couple of chances they had towards the end of the game were not of his making - he had one decent save as far as I can recall.

I watched the first two pizza cup games where he was very good and looks assured.

If he starts tomorrow I wouldn’t give it a second thought.

I agree with IDM, I also think a run in the team would really boost his confidence

Filo

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #48 on November 20, 2020, 08:35:24 am by Filo »
To be honest I'm not that fussed that he has gone back

Give Jones a chance on Saturday and if he does well then forget about another keeper
  I thought I was the only one that thought jones was the better keeper


No, I thought Jones looked more confident and assured too

Jones was poor in the FA Cup. Looked very nervy.

I don’t think he looked as nervy as Bursik to be honest

Alan Southstand

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #49 on November 20, 2020, 09:12:46 am by Alan Southstand »
Personally, I’d rather have an experienced guy.

DRNaith

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #50 on November 20, 2020, 09:17:19 am by DRNaith »
Anyway, back on topic  ;), I think it will do Jones a lot of good to play while we probably get an alternative sorted.

IDM

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #51 on November 20, 2020, 09:23:43 am by IDM »
Personally, I’d rather have an experienced guy.

I understand, but how do you get experience, especially as a keeper where only one can start.?  Other than going on loan to a club in a lower division when else would Jones get first team starts in league matches.?

If he is good enough, he’s old enough.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2020, 09:36:59 am by IDM »

pib

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #52 on November 20, 2020, 09:31:12 am by pib »
To be honest I'm not that fussed that he has gone back

Give Jones a chance on Saturday and if he does well then forget about another keeper
  I thought I was the only one that thought jones was the better keeper


No, I thought Jones looked more confident and assured too

Jones was poor in the FA Cup. Looked very nervy.

Thought the same, and thought he dived over the ball for the FCUM goal as well. It wasn't a great finish.

Not to write the guy off but we can't just assume he's ready to be #1.

FWIW I didn't rate Bursik too much either and had massive question marks over him. It's debatable for me whether at this stage in his development he's a better option than Lawlor.

I think this situation shows the pitfalls of relying on loans from other clubs though. Sometimes I accept they are necessary and the sensible option, but it leaves you vulnerable to situations like this.

Campsall rover

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« Reply #53 on November 20, 2020, 10:26:22 am by Campsall rover »
I am amazed at some of the comments about Jones not being ready.

Why is he not ready? How will we ever know if he does not play.
He looked very assured in the Blackburn match. Every time i have seen him i have been impressed.

It was not long ago loads of you were screaming for him to be given his chance.
Now he has got that chance some of you want an experienced keeper instead.

Let us give him this opportunity, think some of you sceptics may get a pleasant surprise at how good this lad is. He is 21 so not a baby is he?
Young for a keeper yes, but he has been waiting in the wings for some time now and i firmly believe he is ready.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2020, 10:28:34 am by Campsall rover »

Alan Southstand

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« Reply #54 on November 20, 2020, 10:47:13 am by Alan Southstand »
If that is aimed at me, Campsall, then you’re way off. I’ve possibly watched him more than most on here. Yes, he’s a good lad, but imho, not yet good enough to be No1.

Seny Dieng showed us what an experienced keeper can do for the team and, definitely, for the defense.

You are all entitled to your opinions, but I’ll stick by mine.

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #55 on November 20, 2020, 10:51:16 am by silent majority »
We after a replacement then?

Of course, will be announced today.

Campsall rover

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« Reply #56 on November 20, 2020, 11:31:05 am by Campsall rover »
If that is aimed at me, Campsall, then you’re way off. I’ve possibly watched him more than most on here. Yes, he’s a good lad, but imho, not yet good enough to be No1.

Seny Dieng showed us what an experienced keeper can do for the team and, definitely, for the defense.

You are all entitled to your opinions, but I’ll stick by mine.
Alan, not specifically aimed at you. There were are a number of people that have reservations as to whether Louis Jones is ready.
Senny Deing was not what i call an experienced keeper but he was certainly a good one. Experience is relative though isn’t it. Compared to Jones more experienced of course.

How does Jones get the experience if he doesn’t get game time in the 1st team?
He will either sink or swim. He deserves his chance imo.

You are very entitled to think differently Alan.  It’s all about opinions. The only one that really matters is DM’s opinion.
Whatever it is i will be happy to accept his superior judgement.

EasyforDennis

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #57 on November 20, 2020, 11:52:47 am by EasyforDennis »
We get a lot of posters on here talking about confidence. How many times have we read about strikers needing confidence and we should persevere and not drop them? Yet now when it comes to Louis Jones the first thing we do when the 1st choice keeper gets recalled we go out and get another.
How much good must this be doing for HIS confidence?

Oh and I would be quite happy to see Jones playing on Saturday.

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #58 on November 20, 2020, 12:12:51 pm by graingrover »
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Regulations for the signing of goalkeepers on emergency loans state the player coming in must start matches they are available for during their stay. So the new signing for Rovers will start against Sunderland and Blackpool #drfc

Metalmicky

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Re: Bursik
« Reply #59 on November 20, 2020, 12:36:44 pm by Metalmicky »
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