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I have probably asked b4 and forgottenWhy are some deals for un undisclosed fee plsWho doesn't want that info in public and why?Selling Club or purchasing club and does it really matter as surely it must go on the Profit and Loss" books and be there to be discovered later?
Putting aside the tough COVID financial climate, we have a budget and I would imagine given his new deal, that Whiteman is by far our top earner. If he leaves, that wage is then freed. I doubt very much we will be signing a player who will be getting what we are paying Whiteman now, potentially bring in two players for his wage.
Quote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 03:33:12 pmQuote from: drfc1951 on January 12, 2021, 03:30:40 pmHow can you say its peanuts when you dont know what it is?It will be less thann£1m after Sheff utd have their cutAbsolutely, categorically incorrect!
Quote from: drfc1951 on January 12, 2021, 03:30:40 pmHow can you say its peanuts when you dont know what it is?It will be less thann£1m after Sheff utd have their cut
How can you say its peanuts when you dont know what it is?
Of course this is all speculation but as we've said previously, as disappointing as it is, we have to be prepared for it to happen sooner or later.If a club matches the value that in his terms/agreement then you can't change the goalposts and breach that agreement. That is tantamount to standing in a players way. There won't be many League One players with such a high a release clause I would guessSome may debate the value that triggers his ability to talk to other clubs but you have to consider, he may not have signed his new contract in the first place and could be walking away for free and/or joining Barnsley for much less than his worth. Had he not signed a new contract, the same folk would be up in arms about that too. We may have never got Ben, or Cameron John for example, without these sell on clauses in the first place. What min fee would you say would be right for Cameron John??These matters are never as straightforward as we think.
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 12, 2021, 04:23:19 pmOf course this is all speculation but as we've said previously, as disappointing as it is, we have to be prepared for it to happen sooner or later.If a club matches the value that in his terms/agreement then you can't change the goalposts and breach that agreement. That is tantamount to standing in a players way. There won't be many League One players with such a high a release clause I would guessSome may debate the value that triggers his ability to talk to other clubs but you have to consider, he may not have signed his new contract in the first place and could be walking away for free and/or joining Barnsley for much less than his worth. Had he not signed a new contract, the same folk would be up in arms about that too. We may have never got Ben, or Cameron John for example, without these sell on clauses in the first place. What min fee would you say would be right for Cameron John??These matters are never as straightforward as we think. Do we even know that he has a minimum release clause? I’ve not seen that mentioned by SM or reported elsewhere - comments along the lines of “bids don’t match our valuation” to me suggest we have a fee in mind, not something in writing.
Quote from: silent majority on January 12, 2021, 04:19:00 pmQuote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 03:33:12 pmQuote from: drfc1951 on January 12, 2021, 03:30:40 pmHow can you say its peanuts when you dont know what it is?It will be less thann£1m after Sheff utd have their cutAbsolutely, categorically incorrect!It might well be, but I’ve seen it in the past that Sheff Utd have a sell on of 30%, 30% of £1.5m is £450k, after that there will be other deductions, agents fees etc. Wage deferral from the covid agreement with the players.
Quote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 05:05:19 pmQuote from: silent majority on January 12, 2021, 04:19:00 pmQuote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 03:33:12 pmQuote from: drfc1951 on January 12, 2021, 03:30:40 pmHow can you say its peanuts when you dont know what it is?It will be less thann£1m after Sheff utd have their cutAbsolutely, categorically incorrect!It might well be, but I’ve seen it in the past that Sheff Utd have a sell on of 30%, 30% of £1.5m is £450k, after that there will be other deductions, agents fees etc. Wage deferral from the covid agreement with the players.So, you're guessing then?
It’s not always the total value that clubs reject, it’s the structure of the payments. It will be about £1.5m. How we go about replacing him is the telling thing. If the club want me to recommend some L1 midfielders they could purchase that would do a similar job, I only charge a small fee!
Quote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 05:05:19 pmQuote from: silent majority on January 12, 2021, 04:19:00 pmQuote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 03:33:12 pmQuote from: drfc1951 on January 12, 2021, 03:30:40 pmHow can you say its peanuts when you dont know what it is?It will be less thann£1m after Sheff utd have their cutAbsolutely, categorically incorrect!It might well be, but I’ve seen it in the past that Sheff Utd have a sell on of 30%, 30% of £1.5m is £450k, after that there will be other deductions, agents fees etc. Wage deferral from the covid agreement with the players.If Bens asked for a move , then he and his agent shouldn't receive a penny of the transfer fee.
Quote from: silent majority on January 12, 2021, 06:09:40 pmQuote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 05:05:19 pmQuote from: silent majority on January 12, 2021, 04:19:00 pmQuote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 03:33:12 pmQuote from: drfc1951 on January 12, 2021, 03:30:40 pmHow can you say its peanuts when you dont know what it is?It will be less thann£1m after Sheff utd have their cutAbsolutely, categorically incorrect!It might well be, but I’ve seen it in the past that Sheff Utd have a sell on of 30%, 30% of £1.5m is £450k, after that there will be other deductions, agents fees etc. Wage deferral from the covid agreement with the players.So, you're guessing then?Speculating would be the appropriate word, just like everyone else, but you choose to ignore everyone else speculating
Quote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 06:12:37 pmQuote from: silent majority on January 12, 2021, 06:09:40 pmQuote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 05:05:19 pmQuote from: silent majority on January 12, 2021, 04:19:00 pmQuote from: Filo on January 12, 2021, 03:33:12 pmQuote from: drfc1951 on January 12, 2021, 03:30:40 pmHow can you say its peanuts when you dont know what it is?It will be less thann£1m after Sheff utd have their cutAbsolutely, categorically incorrect!It might well be, but I’ve seen it in the past that Sheff Utd have a sell on of 30%, 30% of £1.5m is £450k, after that there will be other deductions, agents fees etc. Wage deferral from the covid agreement with the players.So, you're guessing then?Speculating would be the appropriate word, just like everyone else, but you choose to ignore everyone else speculatingYou made a definitive statement, no question marks, no supporting points to your 'speculation', just purely your point that was dressed up to be as affirmative as possible. That's why I commented, because it was just a ludicrous swipe at the club.Other people have speculated, but their posts are obvious.
Hoden intimating we're getting more than £1.5m for him.
So much for we don’t need to sell !
Quote from: MachoMadness on January 12, 2021, 06:33:52 pmHoden intimating we're getting more than £1.5m for him. LH also says...From what I've been told over the past week or so, there is a confidence Rovers will be able to act quickly in bringing at least one player in once the Whiteman deal is fully confirmed. A possibility - and I stress the word possibility - before the weekend