timing is everything

[Colemans Left Hook]

timing is everything


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58713175

[Metalmicky]

Seems like the left are not going anywhere - which will effectively mean a divided and lack-lustre opposition for a few more years...

[bpoolrover]

A couple of weeks ago Labour were ahead in the polls, last week tories 3 we're 3 up this week 7 points ahead, which at this stage during a pandemic people with no fuel and putting national insurance up does not give Labour much hope

[SydneyRover]

A couple of weeks ago Labour were ahead in the polls, last week tories 3 we're 3 up this week 7 points ahead

you have to give johnson credit though bp he's giving it his best shot to help, with gas and petrol prices if you can get it and helping people save money with less choice on the shelves. I hear he's also going to help with money worries make sure you have as little as possible to worry about.

[BillyStubbsTears]

A couple of weeks ago Labour were ahead in the polls, last week tories 3 we're 3 up this week 7 points ahead, which at this stage during a pandemic people with no fuel and putting national insurance up does not give Labour much hope

Look at the trends.

The Tories, probably rightly, got a huge boost in the polls in winter and spring from the vaccine rollout. The polls  went from about 38:38 at Xmas to about 43:33 by June, in favour of the Tories.

Since then, the trend has reversed. The figures are now about 39:36 or so and the trend is still towards a falling Tory lead.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#/media/File%3AOpinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election_after_2019_(LOESS).svg

There's three years till the next Election. And a lot of difficulties and opportunities still ahead. Anybody guessing what the result will be in 2024 is on a fool's errand.

[wilts rover]

My eyes are opened - what a wonderful job Johnson and his pseduo-fascists are doing in running the country. Oh & thanks for the unicorn that arrived today.

[bpoolrover]

A couple of weeks ago Labour were ahead in the polls, last week tories 3 we're 3 up this week 7 points ahead, which at this stage during a pandemic people with no fuel and putting national insurance up does not give Labour much hope

Look at the trends.

The Tories, probably rightly, got a huge boost in the polls in winter and spring from the vaccine rollout. The polls  went from about 38:38 at Xmas to about 43:33 by June, in favour of the Tories.

Since then, the trend has reversed. The figures are now about 39:36 or so and the trend is still towards a falling Tory lead.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#/media/File%3AOpinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election_after_2019_(LOESS).svg

There's three years till the next Election. And a lot of difficulties and opportunities still ahead. Anybody guessing what the result will be in 2024 is on a fool's errand.

labour should be way ahead at this point bst for them to have any chance of winning the next election, and it’s not really falling when last week they gained around 11 points back

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bpool.

There's no "should" these days. We are in utterly different times. Brexit has put many people into "never the other side" camps. And the pandemic had made it harder than ever to manage economic cycles.

There's about 5% of the population in the centre likely to switch between Lab and Con. There's about 5% on the other wings of the parties, likely to go Green or some left wing fringe from Lab, or whatever form Farage next takes from Con. It'll be those 15% who decide the next election.

As for whether the lead is falling, you don't tell anything from individual polls. Look at the trend lines on that graph.

[bpoolrover]

Bpool.

There's no "should" these days. We are in utterly different times. Brexit has put many people into "never the other side" camps. And the pandemic had made it harder than ever to manage economic cycles.

There's about 5% of the population in the centre likely to switch between Lab and Con. There's about 5% on the other wings of the parties, likely to go Green or some left wing fringe from Lab, or whatever form Farage next takes from Con. It'll be those 15% who decide the next election.

As for whether the lead is falling, you don't tell anything from individual polls. Look at the trend lines on that graph.

what has happened is to be expected Labour performed terribly under jc amd could only get better, which they have hence such a catch up as such from Labour, the polls need to be showing Labour well ahead to have any hope, I think Labour will gain many seats back on the last election but will they gain anywhere near enough I doubt that,

[SydneyRover]

Bpool.

There's no "should" these days. We are in utterly different times. Brexit has put many people into "never the other side" camps. And the pandemic had made it harder than ever to manage economic cycles.

There's about 5% of the population in the centre likely to switch between Lab and Con. There's about 5% on the other wings of the parties, likely to go Green or some left wing fringe from Lab, or whatever form Farage next takes from Con. It'll be those 15% who decide the next election.

As for whether the lead is falling, you don't tell anything from individual polls. Look at the trend lines on that graph.

what has happened is to be expected Labour performed terribly under jc amd could only get better, which they have hence such a catch up as such from Labour, the polls need to be showing Labour well ahead to have any hope, I think Labour will gain many seats back on the last election but will they gain anywhere near enough I doubt that,

So that should make you a very happy man bp, the country running like finely tuned  diarrhea

[Filo]

Without doubt a planned move by the momentum fruitcakes to disrupt the conference