Lincoln fans

[drfchound]

Lincoln fans moaning that they should have won the game.
Well our fans never do that do they.

As for them only having four shots on target, that is crackers.
Don’t forget that shots (that were actually on target)  blocked by defenders don’t count in the shots on target stats.
There were plenty of blocks weren’t they.

However, I did think that Lincoln moved the ball very well and caused us problems but our defensive work was superb and was enough to prevent them from scoring.

[RoversAlias]

If it hasn't got past a defender though Hound, it is hardly a shot on target. We defended very well, save for the two penalty incidents.

[drfchound]

RA, so a shot from six yards that would go into the middle of the net and blocked by a defender isn’t actually on target?

I know what you mean of course but in real terms my example above should really be classed as a shot on target.

[BobG]

Interesting debate. I think for me, if the aim is true, then it is a shot on target. If the defender blocks it, well, that is good defending! Or poor play by the attacker! Lol.....

BobG

[StocktonRover]

So a shot on target cleared off the line by a defender isn't a shot on target?

[drfchound]

That is correct Stockton, according to the bbc stats.

[Padge_DRFC]

You don't get them on chuffing sky bet shots on target specials annoyingly

[donnievic]

RA, so a shot from six yards that would go into the middle of the net and blocked by a defender isn’t actually on target?

I know what you mean of course but in real terms my example above should really be classed as a shot on target.

no and either is it at the bookies

[i_ateallthepies]

The difficulty with the blocked shots question is that many shots are blocked by the defender very close to the shooter and it simply isn't possible to know whether the ball would hit the target or not.  It's logical IMO therefore that blocked shots should not be assumed to be on target.

[NickDRFC]

The difficulty with the blocked shots question is that many shots are blocked by the defender very close to the shooter and it simply isn't possible to know whether the ball would hit the target or not.  It's logical IMO therefore that blocked shots should not be assumed to be on target.

Exactly, and in the lower leagues we don’t have the benefit of multiple camera angles to work out where it would have gone. A shot that the keeper deals with is a lot more clear cut whether it’s on target or not.

[the vicar]

How many times under SOD should we have won with dominating games and lost.  We played some outstanding football ⚽️ but unfortunately that doesn’t always win you games, you just have to do what you need to do to win a game.
I remember Reading in the 70s they just sat back in defence and a ball over the top, and won the game 1-0 as they did against us and won the league, I would take that all day long

[Getridorit]

If a sniper was trying to shoot an enemy, and when he fired a bird flew into the path of the bullet.
Then he didn't hit the target (the enemy)

Blocked shots aren't 'on target' because they haven't hit the target.
'on target' any 'hit target' are the same in football.

[Donnybob]

Each Sunday the Football League Paper gives stats for every game in the EFL. Spend a bit of time studying them. The vast majority of games are won by teams with the least possession. You can then see how effective teams are as more often than not the team with least possession creates more shots on and off goal. Possession for its own sake is very misleading. Ineffective possession is pointless. The purpose of football is to score one more goal then your opponent, not to pass him to death. You get no extra points for a two or ten goal margin.

[wing commander]

  I think if we are honest if that would have been reversed we would have been annoyed that we didn't come out the game with anything.

  However sometimes you have to see past the emotion and accept that it was there own fault, as fantastic as we defended there final ball was shocking. From our point of view are defence was absolutely immense and hopefully with these new additions and Madjer coming back fit we can get a proper settled midfield again that is competitive. As fantastic as Taylor Richards is going forward he needs a proper defensive midfielder next to him as he can be weak defensively.

 A special mention for Fej as well he really was on a hiding to nothing with the space between him and midfield widening as the game went on but nobody could fault how hard he worked. He's having to play every game at the minute and has done brilliant for us these last few games despite the criticism he gets..He's going to need a rest soon though

[idler]

Imagine trying to get any of the squad at this minute to have a rest.
I bet that they are all buzzing with this run, hoping to start and if not coming off the bench.

[drfchound]

The difficulty with the blocked shots question is that many shots are blocked by the defender very close to the shooter and it simply isn't possible to know whether the ball would hit the target or not.  It's logical IMO therefore that blocked shots should not be assumed to be on target.

Sometimes that is true pies but it is ludicrous that a shot cleared off the line by a defender isn’t counted as a shot on target.
Also likewise with a shot from say six yards which is blocked by a defender which clearly prevents a goal being scored.

As for not having multiple tv angles to study, there are some goals not accredited to attackers by the dubious goal panel.

[i_ateallthepies]

As regards shots cleared off the line by a defender I agree but shots blocked from any other position become problematic as the require subjective judgement, which for consistency purposes I agree with the existing interpretation i.e. should not be included as a shot on target.

[BillyStubbsTears]

For all Lincoln's excellent play, they created very few chances. They had two of the softest penalties you'll ever see, hit the top of the bar (with a shot that was covered by Balcombe if it had been the 18 inches lower it would have had to be to have gone in) and forced only one other serious save. That speaks volumes of how well we defended. They didn't produce a single chance of note inside the box.

[scawsby steve]

For all Lincoln's excellent play, they created very few chances. They had two of the softest penalties you'll ever see, hit the top of the bar (with a shot that was covered by Balcombe if it had been the 18 inches lower it would have had to be to have gone in) and forced only one other serious save. That speaks volumes of how well we defended. They didn't produce a single chance of note inside the box.

Just a bit of pedantry, BST, regarding that last sentence. In the first half, their wonder kid, Brennan Johnson, missed the sitter of the game after big Tom failed to cut out a low cross.

For some reason, Sky Sports didn't show it in their highlights.

[drfchound]

For all Lincoln's excellent play, they created very few chances. They had two of the softest penalties you'll ever see, hit the top of the bar (with a shot that was covered by Balcombe if it had been the 18 inches lower it would have had to be to have gone in) and forced only one other serious save. That speaks volumes of how well we defended. They didn't produce a single chance of note inside the box.

Just a bit of pedantry, BST, regarding that last sentence. In the first half, their wonder kid, Brennan Johnson, missed the sitter of the game after big Tom failed to cut out a low cross.

For some reason, Sky Sports didn't show it in their highlights.

Correct SS.
That clearly was a seriously bad miss and was well inside the box.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Must have been shouting at the kids when that happened cos I don't remember seeing it. I stand corrected.

[Donnywolf]

For all Lincoln's excellent play, they created very few chances. They had two of the softest penalties you'll ever see, hit the top of the bar (with a shot that was covered by Balcombe if it had been the 18 inches lower it would have had to be to have gone in) and forced only one other serious save. That speaks volumes of how well we defended. They didn't produce a single chance of note inside the box.

Just a bit of pedantry, BST, regarding that last sentence. In the first half, their wonder kid, Brennan Johnson, missed the sitter of the game after big Tom failed to cut out a low cross.

For some reason, Sky Sports didn't show it in their highlights.

Correct SS.
That clearly was a seriously bad miss and was well inside the box.

m(iss)otm imo