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[deebee]

How about letting fans who have been vaccinated back into the grounds. At least this would be a safe start to get supporters back in even though most will be old fogies like me.

[Bentley Bullet]

Does that mean I would also get in as DonnyWolf and Scawsby Steve's carer?

[Donnywolf]

By my understanding (maybe check this out) being vaccinated even twice does not mean you a) cant catch it or b) cannot give it to someone else

I read that if you have the vaccination and you do catch it you are just less likely to die or be more terribly affected than if you didnt have the vaccination

Its what I keep hearing though of course the Government will be keen to let people think they are protected (I will ask the question on Coronavirus in Off Topic rather than hijack this thread)

[the vicar]

Has it not got to you that we are still in lockdown and they are still saying don’t mix even if you have had the vaccine

[RugbyRover]

By my understanding (maybe check this out) being vaccinated even twice does not mean you a) cant catch it or b) cannot give it to someone else

I read that if you have the vaccination and you do catch it you are just less likely to die or be more terribly affected than if you didnt have the vaccination

Its what I keep hearing though of course the Government will be keen to let people think they are protected (I will ask the question on Coronavirus in Off Topic rather than hijack this thread)

I think you are correct.

Having the jab just gets your body ready to fight the infection if you do catch it. It doesn't stop you from catching it.

[RoversAlias]

By my understanding (maybe check this out) being vaccinated even twice does not mean you a) cant catch it or b) cannot give it to someone else

I read that if you have the vaccination and you do catch it you are just less likely to die or be more terribly affected than if you didnt have the vaccination

Its what I keep hearing though of course the Government will be keen to let people think they are protected (I will ask the question on Coronavirus in Off Topic rather than hijack this thread)

I would expect that is the case, yes. Vaccines don't give us a guard against catching illnesses, they give our bodies the tools to fight them when we do catch them. Then once everyone has got that vaccine to fight it, less people have it and they have it for less time so it spreads much less easily, and eventually becomes very rare or extinct entirely.

[DearneValleyRover]

Having the vaccine doesn’t mean you can’t catch or spread Covid so until everyone has it there will not be a relaxation on crowds

[Chris the Rover]

What happens with those who refuse to be vaccinated?

[Draytonian III]

I’ve got a cricket team mate who’s adamant that he’s not having a jab must be scared of being tracked by Bill Gates or something, but the trouble is he’s a self employed electrician industrial and domestic and somehow I very much doubt he’ll be telling his customers that he’s not bothering about the vaccination.

[selby]

  I would think that life would become difficult  for them if the government slapped restrictions on them such as travel abroad etc. and working restrictions.

[Bentley Bullet]

It doesn't have to be a government decision, some companies might decide to implement restrictions off their own bats.

[selby]

  I think that you could safely bet life insurance will be affected even if the companies refuse to insure directly for Covid, and I would expect places with paying crowds as big as football grounds to expect you to show proof of having the vaccine for entry.

[Nudga]

BST once told me that I should not be allowed into the KMS unless I had the vaccine so as not to endanger him or his family, potentially me being a killer.

So there's your answer.

[Chris the Rover]

Can’t argue with that Nudga.

[Nudga]

Can’t argue with that Nudga.

Care to expand?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Not really fair though is it?

[idler]

Having my first one at noon tomorrow.

[DearneValleyRover]

Not really fair though is it?

Why isn’t it fair? Covid is real, it has contributed to the early deaths of many, it’s mutating quickly and nobody knows how infectious it could become or even if it will become more deadly so not having the jab should have consequences given those would be more likely to be carriers

[Chris Black come back]

It’s not clear either way yet as this is far too early in a mass vaccination programme to draw a firm conclusion - but there is at least some evidence at this early stage from Israel that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine does dramatically reduce transmissibility. This sample could end up to be too small and too early but there is at least some evidence to show that once fully vaccinated, people shed the virus at a much lower rate.

[Nudga]

Not really fair though is it?

Why isn’t it fair? Covid is real, it has contributed to the early deaths of many, it’s mutating quickly and nobody knows how infectious it could become or even if it will become more deadly so not having the jab should have consequences given those would be more likely to be carriers

But the vaccine doesn't stop you from passing it on sooooo

[streathamdave]

Having a few fans in the ground is worse for the club than no fans as with some fans they need more staff in the ground that they will need to pay for + for policing. Would be great for the fans though having said that.

[DearneValleyRover]

Not really fair though is it?

Why isn’t it fair? Covid is real, it has contributed to the early deaths of many, it’s mutating quickly and nobody knows how infectious it could become or even if it will become more deadly so not having the jab should have consequences given those would be more likely to be carriers

But the vaccine doesn't stop you from passing it on sooooo

No it doesn’t but not having it makes it more likely to contract it, as yet I’ve not heard one single argument why you shouldn’t have it.

[since-1969]

How about letting fans who have been vaccinated back into the grounds. At least this would be a safe start to get supporters back in even though most will be old fogies like me.

there is NO evidence that those vaccinated will not still be infectious to others so it’s a least 6-9 months away before stadiums will see 50% + of capacity. 

[Move DRFC]

What happens with those who refuse to be vaccinated?

They can stay at home and let all the sane people enjoy their lives.

[selby]

  DVR, that's because there is no good reason not to have it other than for other medical reasons.
  People that refuse for any other reason deserve to have any restrictions the authorities deem appropriate slapped straight on them.

[sedwardsdrfc]

I’ve got a cricket team mate who’s adamant that he’s not having a jab must be scared of being tracked by Bill Gates or something, but the trouble is he’s a self employed electrician industrial and domestic and somehow I very much doubt he’ll be telling his customers that he’s not bothering about the vaccination.

People who have this view are so confusing. Will refuse to get vaccinated and cause others harm in fear of been tracked yet probably has an iPhone or Android phone with a load of apps that can track your location, search history, general conversations, face etc etc etc.

People who talk like that on the vaccine they need to go off grid for real and live in a tent and sh*t in a hole. Then i'd accept their concerns

[adamtherover]

What happens with those who refuse to be vaccinated?

they should spend a day in an intensive care ward to see the effects of this virus? That said, they probably think it's made up anyways? Along with the microchipped vaccine?

[the vicar]

What happens with those who refuse to be vaccinated?

then they are idiots and willing to give it to there parents/grandparents

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Not really fair though is it?

Why isn’t it fair? Covid is real, it has contributed to the early deaths of many, it’s mutating quickly and nobody knows how infectious it could become or even if it will become more deadly so not having the jab should have consequences given those would be more likely to be carriers

But the vaccine doesn't stop you from passing it on sooooo

No it doesn’t but not having it makes it more likely to contract it, as yet I’ve not heard one single argument why you shouldn’t have it.

My point was aimed at the op.  Being lucky to get the vaccine first shouldn't entitle a normal life ahead of others.

[deebee]

My point is if all the fans in the stadium have had the jab then if they are carrying the virus they can only pass it on to someone else who has had the jab so they are far less likely to catch it. I think that all other safety protocols should be followed though ie safe distancing and the possible wearing of masks.