European super League

[RugbyRover]

Did anyone see the FA semi final between Chelsea and City.........can you imagine watching that every week. 

total dross

[normal rules]

Supporters trusts coming together to fight the super league proposals.
They don’t have a chance, unless they can come up with £6bn between them.

[DRNaith]

Crikey, there’s even a website now set up. The super league.com

I wonder how long that's been sat waiting to go live...

Registered 2/6/2008 (probably a speculative purchase looking to make money)
Updated 27/10/2020 (probably when ownership transfer and the ball started rolling on the website)

Registered through Amazon (don't read too much into that)

[Glyn_Wigley]

Did anyone see the FA semi final between Chelsea and City.........can you imagine watching that every week. 

total dross

But that's the FA Cup and the big clubs aren't interested in it. Which is exactly how they'll feel about the Premier League the second they don't need to compete in it any more to qualify for Europe.

[silent majority]

So here we are, 2 years later;

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=270708.msg868864#msg868864

http://fsf.org.uk/blog/view/six-reasons-to-oppose-a-european-super-league

[Barmby Rover]

Where was all this angst when the Premiership was set up? The only reason for it was to keep all the money from Sky for the "top" clubs, so what is the difference between that and the European club championship, it just means that the other 124 clubs left behind will suffer a massive shortfall in funds, I really could cry for them, hypocrites! And what about all these wailing fans? I bet they will be paying their subscription to Sky and watching all the games, you too have contributed to the demise of British football by buying into it.

[Glyn_Wigley]

It'd be interesting to find out which PL clubs were invited to join and turned it down, and also which PL clubs weren't bothered to be asked at all.

[sha66y]

Where was all this angst when the Premiership was set up? The only reason for it was to keep all the money from Sky for the "top" clubs, so what is the difference between that and the European club championship, it just means that the other 124 clubs left behind will suffer a massive shortfall in funds, I really could cry for them, hypocrites! And what about all these wailing fans? I bet they will be paying their subscription to Sky and watching all the games, you too have contributed to the demise of British football by buying into it.

Yeah that!!

sky subscribers have propped up the beast for too long.......... I’m hopeful that this ESL happens and look forward to what the future holds ....

[River Don]

Where was all this angst when the Premiership was set up? The only reason for it was to keep all the money from Sky for the "top" clubs, so what is the difference between that and the European club championship, it just means that the other 124 clubs left behind will suffer a massive shortfall in funds, I really could cry for them, hypocrites! And what about all these wailing fans? I bet they will be paying their subscription to Sky and watching all the games, you too have contributed to the demise of British football by buying into it.

The big difference is the abandoning of the principle of jeopardy and relegation.

That's new. That's why this is easily the most worst thing to ever happen in European football.

A European Super League where Real Madrid or Man Utd could go down and Liecester and Atalanta promoted might be acceptable.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Having chewed over this today surely the owners of these clubs who have signed this letter of intent have proven they are no longer fit and proper persons to be owners of English football clubs.

This is a gross act of misconduct and the football World needs to use whatever legal means to wrestle the ownership out of their hands.

They have all got to go. They cannot be trusted. If the clubs involved are barred from domestic competition, the owners have nothing and their assets or debts become worthless.

[scawsby steve]

So I’ve seen rovers play at the emirates, but looks like we will never get the chance to see them play at Spurs new ground. Or the ethiad. Some on her have been lucky enough and old enough to see a rovers side play at anfield and old Trafford. But those chances for the next generation will go I’m afraid.

Sorry to be pedantic, NR, but I'm old, and I've been to Anfield, but I've never been to Old Trafford; and I honestly can't remember the Rovers ever playing there.

I could be wrong though, and I've no doubt someone will correct me if I am.

[normal rules]

Youth cup 1958. But you are right. I don’t think the first team, ever played. My bad.

[normal rules]

They did play November 1935. Before anyone’s time though perhaps. Or maybe not ?

[River Don]

Interesting reading.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/19/revealed-unpublished-super-league-document-justifying-breakaway

So essentially these clubs have gone bust, thanks to Covid. Well at least the likes of Madrid and Man Utd have.

The only way out is to accept the JP Morgan money and screw the rest of football, which their greedy owners are only too pleased to do.

This is what's driving such radical action.

[sha66y]

Where was all this angst when the Premiership was set up? The only reason for it was to keep all the money from Sky for the "top" clubs, so what is the difference between that and the European club championship, it just means that the other 124 clubs left behind will suffer a massive shortfall in funds, I really could cry for them, hypocrites! And what about all these wailing fans? I bet they will be paying their subscription to Sky and watching all the games, you too have contributed to the demise of British football by buying into it.

The big difference is the abandoning of the principle of jeopardy and relegation.

That's new. That's why this is easily the most worst thing to ever happen in European football.

A European Super League where Real Madrid or Man Utd could go down and Liecester and Atalanta promoted might be acceptable.

So what!

What has all that super league malarkey got to do with Doncaster Rovers?

 

[scawsby steve]

They did play November 1935. Before anyone’s time though perhaps. Or maybe not ?

Ask Wolfie or BB. One of them will definitely have the programme.

[NickDRFC]

So here we are, 2 years later;

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=270708.msg868864#msg868864

http://fsf.org.uk/blog/view/six-reasons-to-oppose-a-european-super-league

What happened to the campaign to prevent it happening referenced in the opening post?

[Chris Black come back]

Gary Neville has tweeted the suggestion that Leeds stand on the touch line tonight and let Liverpool score as they clearly don’t want competition in the future.
Lol.

I would definitely support this idea. Leeds should continue this until the end of the season in every match.

[normal rules]

Where was all this angst when the Premiership was set up? The only reason for it was to keep all the money from Sky for the "top" clubs, so what is the difference between that and the European club championship, it just means that the other 124 clubs left behind will suffer a massive shortfall in funds, I really could cry for them, hypocrites! And what about all these wailing fans? I bet they will be paying their subscription to Sky and watching all the games, you too have contributed to the demise of British football by buying into it.

The big difference is the abandoning of the principle of jeopardy and relegation.

That's new. That's why this is easily the most worst thing to ever happen in European football.

A European Super League where Real Madrid or Man Utd could go down and Liecester and Atalanta promoted might be acceptable.

So what!

What has all that super league malarkey got to do with Doncaster Rovers?

 

It may not seem relevant to TLOD. However If you read some of the links silent majority has posted, you will see that it very much affects clubs like ours.there is likely to be significantly less money trickling down the pyramid from tv rights.  Clubs will suffer.

[i_ateallthepies]

Where was all this angst when the Premiership was set up? The only reason for it was to keep all the money from Sky for the "top" clubs, so what is the difference between that and the European club championship, it just means that the other 124 clubs left behind will suffer a massive shortfall in funds, I really could cry for them, hypocrites! And what about all these wailing fans? I bet they will be paying their subscription to Sky and watching all the games, you too have contributed to the demise of British football by buying into it.

The big difference is the abandoning of the principle of jeopardy and relegation.

That's new. That's why this is easily the most worst thing to ever happen in European football.

A European Super League where Real Madrid or Man Utd could go down and Liecester and Atalanta promoted might be acceptable.

So what!

What has all that super league malarkey got to do with Doncaster Rovers?

 

It may not seem relevant to TLOD. However If you read some of the links silent majority has posted, you will see that it very much affects clubs like ours.there is likely to be significantly less money trickling down the pyramid from tv rights.  Clubs will suffer.

Ultimately, if all clubs are similarly affected and have to 'cut their cloth' then surely it will be player earnings that will have to withstand the bulk of the reduction.  Perhaps the club delaying contract renewals could help with managing the change to that reduced income. 

[River Don]

Where was all this angst when the Premiership was set up? The only reason for it was to keep all the money from Sky for the "top" clubs, so what is the difference between that and the European club championship, it just means that the other 124 clubs left behind will suffer a massive shortfall in funds, I really could cry for them, hypocrites! And what about all these wailing fans? I bet they will be paying their subscription to Sky and watching all the games, you too have contributed to the demise of British football by buying into it.

The big difference is the abandoning of the principle of jeopardy and relegation.

That's new. That's why this is easily the most worst thing to ever happen in European football.

A European Super League where Real Madrid or Man Utd could go down and Liecester and Atalanta promoted might be acceptable.

So what!

What has all that super league malarkey got to do with Doncaster Rovers?

 

It may not seem relevant to TLOD. However If you read some of the links silent majority has posted, you will see that it very much affects clubs like ours.there is likely to be significantly less money trickling down the pyramid from tv rights.  Clubs will suffer.

It may well mean a reduction in income for Rovers.

There may well be ramifications for the national team, and international football in general. That will concern a lot of Rovers supporters.


Beyond that though, I don't see why anyone interested in football should not care about how the game is run more widely,

[normal rules]

Take at look at the Spurs situation. Sack manager and an ex rovers player takes over. Every club at every level has threads linking clubs to each other. The PL exists because we exist. Without fans football is nothing. Without clubs like rovers, the pyramid doesn’t exist. We are part of something much bigger.
Those at the very top have lost sight of this due to sheer greed.
And I hope it costs them in the long term.
It’s their supporters I feel for though.
Football will prevail I hope.

[Donnyjim]

Let them fully leave the premier, telling them to sign a waver saying that if it all goes tits up (which it will) they have to pay £100 billion each to come back in.

It’s a franchise based idea that will have the game looking like this in two years time.

[ravenrover]

OK Mods time to move this to off topic, sod all to do with football all to do with greed and money and the NFL franchise system

[silent majority]

So here we are, 2 years later;

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=270708.msg868864#msg868864

http://fsf.org.uk/blog/view/six-reasons-to-oppose-a-european-super-league

What happened to the campaign to prevent it happening referenced in the opening post?

Well the campaign is still alive, and the subject has never gone away, we've been in talks with UEFA, the EPL, PFA for quite some time now. More importantly we've been discussing this with the powers that be at Westminster, and today the Secretary of State announced that the Fan led review which we've been campaigning for some years has gone to to the top of the list.

This latest Super League effort is not exactly the same as the one that I talked about 2 years ago. Then it was being promoted by the ECA, the European Clubs Association, and the work we did with the FSE (Football Supporters Europe) made sure that the ECA dropped their proposals. It's the frustration of not seeing their plans come to fruition that has promoted these clubs to go it alone.

So, in essence we were successful, but of course its now back on the agenda because the greed has taken over. These clubs have even resigned from the ECA meaning they are on their own, very much so.

[normal rules]

Juergen klopp has come out and renounced the decision. He has said him and the players knew nothing. He will be the next to join the special one in looking for another team to manage no doubt.

[Padge_DRFC]

Gerrard will manage the franchise if that happens

[Chris Black come back]

You can almost read the outcome of the "fan-led" review now. Will just entrench the current status quo, as that will be presented as some kind of golden age worth preserving, rather than literally the problem that needs solving. Any review led by a Tory MP is not going to deliver any radical change. Doubtless plenty will make the case for change but you can predict now that bugger all will come of this.

[silent majority]

You can almost read the outcome of the "fan-led" review now. Will just entrench the current status quo, as that will be presented as some kind of golden age worth preserving, rather than literally the problem that needs solving. Any review led by a Tory MP is not going to deliver any radical change. Doubtless plenty will make the case for change but you can predict now that bugger all will come of this.

I think you're missing the point! This is a fan led review based on the work we've done and presented to the FA and others.

https://thefsa.org.uk/news/fsa-statement-government-fan-led-review/

[wilts rover]

You can almost read the outcome of the "fan-led" review now. Will just entrench the current status quo, as that will be presented as some kind of golden age worth preserving, rather than literally the problem that needs solving. Any review led by a Tory MP is not going to deliver any radical change. Doubtless plenty will make the case for change but you can predict now that bugger all will come of this.

I think you're missing the point! This is a fan led review based on the work we've done and presented to the FA and others.

https://thefsa.org.uk/news/fsa-statement-government-fan-led-review/

A government that wont let workers reps join company boards and allows the gig economy is going to support fans running £multi-billion football clubs. Oh aye...