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At crossroads if you are both turning right you are supposed to pass each other and then turn. If one driver wants to turn right and the other driver wants to go straight on then the driver who is turning right should wait until the driver going straight has passed.
Mini-roundabouts are crossroad that have had tits put in the middle!And it is very apt description to some that use them on here!
I used them as an example, just like your leader did!
There is at least one accident every week on that one at Clay Lane.
I used crossroads as an example of road safety procedure, just as BST did after me, but because he is your leader, you simply couldn't question him about it. The initial question was about two drivers arriving at the mini roundabout at the same time and with both vehicles to the right of each other. If in that situation, it was a normal roundabout it would be highly likely that both drivers could proceed the roundabout at the same time without interfering with each other. If it was a mini-roundabout, the situation would be more precarious and I would expect the driver turning right to give precedence to the driver going straight on, thus not crossing its path. That's what I would do anyway. It is defensive driving, not offensive.
Quote from: keith79 on May 01, 2021, 02:05:22 pmWhere is this roundabout?Do you know York?
Where is this roundabout?
Temper temper, Mr Wiggerly. Just because you've made an arse of yourself.Again!
Agreed about the defensive driving BB. But the bigger onus is certainly on the driver going straight on. If they think they have right of way, and drive accordingly, they are the one legally in the wrong, whereas if the driver turning right assumes they have the right of way, they are legally correct. The crossroads example I gave before is one where the layout of the road is such that it is physically impossible for two cars both turning right to pass offside to offside. So it is one of those cases where it is simply not possible to have a rule, and eye contact and a mutual decision has to take precedence. I don't understand why you have got so irate about that.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 01, 2021, 05:04:21 pmAgreed about the defensive driving BB. But the bigger onus is certainly on the driver going straight on. If they think they have right of way, and drive accordingly, they are the one legally in the wrong, whereas if the driver turning right assumes they have the right of way, they are legally correct. The crossroads example I gave before is one where the layout of the road is such that it is physically impossible for two cars both turning right to pass offside to offside. So it is one of those cases where it is simply not possible to have a rule, and eye contact and a mutual decision has to take precedence. I don't understand why you have got so irate about that. If the driver going straight approaches the roundabout first he has got the right of way.
If you are the only motorist actually at a roundabout you have priority over motorists not at the roundabout. People thinking they have the right of way because they are on the right of someone actually at a roundabout are only within their rights if they themselves are actually on the roundabout!