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Quote from: phil o sophical on May 10, 2021, 06:53:51 amDoesn't seem to long ago that we were worried about losing him to higher opposition. As ScillyRover said earlier, playing him at right back has done him no favours at all. I seem to remember something similar with Jimmy O'Connor when he moved to centre back, he never seemed quite the same when returned to right backAgree 100% Right manager, right tactics. Some proper protection from the midfield. No problem.He & Tom Anderson were excellent together early season, in their rightful positions, their partnership is easily good enough for league 1 with the right manager in charge in my opinion.
Doesn't seem to long ago that we were worried about losing him to higher opposition. As ScillyRover said earlier, playing him at right back has done him no favours at all. I seem to remember something similar with Jimmy O'Connor when he moved to centre back, he never seemed quite the same when returned to right back
Quote from: Lesonthewest on May 10, 2021, 05:36:51 pmQuote from: phil o sophical on May 10, 2021, 06:53:51 amDoesn't seem to long ago that we were worried about losing him to higher opposition. As ScillyRover said earlier, playing him at right back has done him no favours at all. I seem to remember something similar with Jimmy O'Connor when he moved to centre back, he never seemed quite the same when returned to right backAgree 100% Right manager, right tactics. Some proper protection from the midfield. No problem.He & Tom Anderson were excellent together early season, in their rightful positions, their partnership is easily good enough for league 1 with the right manager in charge in my opinion.There are many with short memories. They were excellent both in the first 3rd of the season before Butler came into the side in Dec. Also very good last season as a pair. We were pretty frugal as a defence ever since Moore arrived. We scored more goals under McCann but we conceded more with him as the manager.
Quote from: phil o sophical on May 10, 2021, 06:53:51 amDoesn't seem to long ago that we were worried about losing him to higher opposition. As ScillyRover said earlier, playing him at right back has done him no favours at all. I seem to remember something similar with Jimmy O'Connor when he moved to centre back, he never seemed quite the same when returned to right backAgree 100% Right manager, right tactics. Some proper protection from the midfield. No problem.He & Tom Anderson were excellent together early season, in their rightful positions, their partnership is easily good enough for league 1 with the right manager in charge in my opinion.
Quote from: Campsall rover on May 10, 2021, 05:48:39 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on May 10, 2021, 05:36:51 pmQuote from: phil o sophical on May 10, 2021, 06:53:51 amDoesn't seem to long ago that we were worried about losing him to higher opposition. As ScillyRover said earlier, playing him at right back has done him no favours at all. I seem to remember something similar with Jimmy O'Connor when he moved to centre back, he never seemed quite the same when returned to right backAgree 100% Right manager, right tactics. Some proper protection from the midfield. No problem.He & Tom Anderson were excellent together early season, in their rightful positions, their partnership is easily good enough for league 1 with the right manager in charge in my opinion.There are many with short memories. They were excellent both in the first 3rd of the season before Butler came into the side in Dec. Also very good last season as a pair. We were pretty frugal as a defence ever since Moore arrived. We scored more goals under McCann but we conceded more with him as the manager.I wouldn’t say excellent first third of the season. 16 goals conceded in the first 13 games before Butler came into the side which is ok but not excellent. With Butler partnering Anderson, we conceded 5 in 10 - that record is excellent - until Anderson got KOd at Fleetwood. Since then we’ve conceded 46 goals in 23 games, which is an unmitigated disaster.
Quote from: Lesonthewest on May 10, 2021, 05:36:51 pmQuote from: phil o sophical on May 10, 2021, 06:53:51 amDoesn't seem to long ago that we were worried about losing him to higher opposition. As ScillyRover said earlier, playing him at right back has done him no favours at all. I seem to remember something similar with Jimmy O'Connor when he moved to centre back, he never seemed quite the same when returned to right backAgree 100% Right manager, right tactics. Some proper protection from the midfield. No problem.He & Tom Anderson were excellent together early season, in their rightful positions, their partnership is easily good enough for league 1 with the right manager in charge in my opinion.There are many with short memories. They were excellent both in the first 3rd of the season before Butler came into the side in Dec. Also very good last season as a pair. We were pretty frugal as a defence ever since Moore arrived. We scored more goals under McCann but we conceded more with him as the manager.
Quote from: phil o sophical on May 10, 2021, 06:53:51 amDoesn't seem to long ago that we were worried about losing him to higher opposition. As ScillyRover said earlier, playing him at right back has done him no favours at all. I seem to remember something similar with Jimmy O'Connor when he moved to centre back, he never seemed quite the same when returned to right backAgree 100% Right manager, right tactics. Some proper protection from the midfield. No problem.He & Tom Anderson were excellent together early season, in their rightful positions, their partnership is easily good enough for league 1 with the right manager in charge in my opinion.
Let him go. We need better.
Quote from: scawsby steve on May 10, 2021, 06:01:25 pmLet him go. We need better.If he doesn’t sign the contract we’ve offered him then how’s a better player going to accept those terms.
Quote from: steve@dcfd on May 10, 2021, 08:00:37 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on May 10, 2021, 06:01:25 pmLet him go. We need better.If he doesn’t sign the contract we’ve offered him then how’s a better player going to accept those terms.I suppose that if Wright thinks he is a Championship player and if he gets a move there he will significantly increase his wages.The deal we offered would likely be a L1 sized deal so following that through, the deal we offered him would be ok for another L1 defender.
Just because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages .
Quote from: drfchound on May 10, 2021, 08:04:01 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on May 10, 2021, 08:00:37 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on May 10, 2021, 06:01:25 pmLet him go. We need better.If he doesn’t sign the contract we’ve offered him then how’s a better player going to accept those terms.I suppose that if Wright thinks he is a Championship player and if he gets a move there he will significantly increase his wages.The deal we offered would likely be a L1 sized deal so following that through, the deal we offered him would be ok for another L1 defender.If keep on following through then we could have another nine players to sign to make the CEO’s 22 players. So let’s hope that better League one players will agree to the deals we offer.
Quote from: firestarter on May 10, 2021, 08:15:39 pmJust because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages . Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.
Quote from: steve@dcfd on May 10, 2021, 08:20:00 pmQuote from: firestarter on May 10, 2021, 08:15:39 pmJust because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages . Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.Whooooaaaaaaaa!!! Ease up there...nobody at the top has even mentioned the aim of achieving a top six place....and this is exactly were the problems begin....expectation ! Firstly...did you watch this season?...if so you can see the problems we have going forward, so how on earth can anyone say we aim for a top six place when it’s patently obvious we are going to be rebuilding ....Let’s hope the MTO reflects what they would LIKE to achieve rather than what they AIM to achieve....it’s only a word but it’s a gulf apart....
How many other clubs higher echelons regularly talk to their supporters?
Quote from: sha66y on May 11, 2021, 10:35:48 amQuote from: steve@dcfd on May 10, 2021, 08:20:00 pmQuote from: firestarter on May 10, 2021, 08:15:39 pmJust because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages . Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.Whooooaaaaaaaa!!! Ease up there...nobody at the top has even mentioned the aim of achieving a top six place....and this is exactly were the problems begin....expectation ! Firstly...did you watch this season?...if so you can see the problems we have going forward, so how on earth can anyone say we aim for a top six place when it’s patently obvious we are going to be rebuilding ....Let’s hope the MTO reflects what they would LIKE to achieve rather than what they AIM to achieve....it’s only a word but it’s a gulf apart....You seem to have a blind spot as far as top 6 expectations go, as though it's just wishful thinking on the part of us supporters.I suggest that you start going to the MTO meetings, then you'll hear it spelled out emphatically by the club's hierarchy.
Quote from: scawsby steve on May 11, 2021, 04:02:55 pmQuote from: sha66y on May 11, 2021, 10:35:48 amQuote from: steve@dcfd on May 10, 2021, 08:20:00 pmQuote from: firestarter on May 10, 2021, 08:15:39 pmJust because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages . Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.Whooooaaaaaaaa!!! Ease up there...nobody at the top has even mentioned the aim of achieving a top six place....and this is exactly were the problems begin....expectation ! Firstly...did you watch this season?...if so you can see the problems we have going forward, so how on earth can anyone say we aim for a top six place when it’s patently obvious we are going to be rebuilding ....Let’s hope the MTO reflects what they would LIKE to achieve rather than what they AIM to achieve....it’s only a word but it’s a gulf apart....You seem to have a blind spot as far as top 6 expectations go, as though it's just wishful thinking on the part of us supporters.I suggest that you start going to the MTO meetings, then you'll hear it spelled out emphatically by the club's hierarchy.They could all don trilby’s and start singing it through megaphones..... the reality speaks for itself, we do not have the resources to not only get to the giddy heights but stay there...We are going to either keep all these heartless soulless out of contract players or replace them.........and if the latter, that’s going to be a lot of upheaval.....I predict a season of struggle and a flirt with the lower depths of league 1, and I won’t be on the clubs back if right....Irrespective of what is said at the MTO ....take it with a pinch of salt,.... we have to rebuild and bed in a squad that we haven’t assembled yet...Let’s just say, we hope to do better than we did this season.....
Quote from: sha66y on May 11, 2021, 06:46:17 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on May 11, 2021, 04:02:55 pmQuote from: sha66y on May 11, 2021, 10:35:48 amQuote from: steve@dcfd on May 10, 2021, 08:20:00 pmQuote from: firestarter on May 10, 2021, 08:15:39 pmJust because player A may be on more than Player B doesn’t necessarily make him any better. There will be dozens of examples of better players on lower wages . Well firestarter I hope you are right and they have experience of league 1 to be able to achieve the aim of top six.Whooooaaaaaaaa!!! Ease up there...nobody at the top has even mentioned the aim of achieving a top six place....and this is exactly were the problems begin....expectation ! Firstly...did you watch this season?...if so you can see the problems we have going forward, so how on earth can anyone say we aim for a top six place when it’s patently obvious we are going to be rebuilding ....Let’s hope the MTO reflects what they would LIKE to achieve rather than what they AIM to achieve....it’s only a word but it’s a gulf apart....You seem to have a blind spot as far as top 6 expectations go, as though it's just wishful thinking on the part of us supporters.I suggest that you start going to the MTO meetings, then you'll hear it spelled out emphatically by the club's hierarchy.They could all don trilby’s and start singing it through megaphones..... the reality speaks for itself, we do not have the resources to not only get to the giddy heights but stay there...We are going to either keep all these heartless soulless out of contract players or replace them.........and if the latter, that’s going to be a lot of upheaval.....I predict a season of struggle and a flirt with the lower depths of league 1, and I won’t be on the clubs back if right....Irrespective of what is said at the MTO ....take it with a pinch of salt,.... we have to rebuild and bed in a squad that we haven’t assembled yet...Let’s just say, we hope to do better than we did this season.....So we take what the board says with a pinch of salt, and listen to your suggestions instead?OK.
I think Blackpool at this time last year were in a very similar position to what we find ourselves in now. They built a decent squad and finished in the top six, and with our weaknesses this season a top six finish for ourselves was not beyond the realms of possibility until late on. There is a core here that has been decent and could be built around, some of the players being discounted have for three years been on the fringe of the top six, Wright one of those, and if he does leave it is because another club wants him. If he does leave the best of luck to him, and will take some replacing, although Huddersfield have let a couple of decent experienced central and back four players go, and they will not be the only ones on the market on free's.