England/Euros Thread

[NickDRFC]

France look worse than England yesterday and are level with a non penalty

They’re off their game today but I’d far rather face Hungary than them or Portugal so hopefully they raise their game 2nd half.

If the scores remain the same we'll be playing Hungary.

Yes, that’s why I said I hope France raise their game - so that we play Hungary. No doubt further twists and turns to come this half though.

[drfchound]

As you were again then.
Germans out now as it stands.

[DearneValleyRover]

France look worse than England yesterday and are level with a non penalty

They’re off their game today but I’d far rather face Hungary than them or Portugal so hopefully they raise their game 2nd half.

If the scores remain the same we'll be playing Hungary.

Yes, that’s why I said I hope France raise their game - so that we play Hungary. No doubt further twists and turns to come this half though.

I understand but I feel England have more chance of beating the French than the Portuguese. Obviously Hungary would be preferable.

[drfchound]

Incredible in Berlin. Germans level up then concede straight away.

[DearneValleyRover]

Wonderful just what tournaments are all about

[DonnyNoel]

This groups is nuts.

[DonnyNoel]

Desmond's all round.

2-2
2-2

[DearneValleyRover]

Germany it is then

[drfchound]

It looks like both France and Portugal are just playing out time now.
No urgency from either team.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Wow what a set of games! Germany haven't looked that great but they will always go into games against us as favourites imo.

[drfchound]

We can beat the Germans.

[silent majority]

We can beat the Germans.

Of course we can, we've beaten them on a number of occasions in the last few years.

[DearneValleyRover]

Beat Germany and absolutely no excuse not to make the final given the half of the draw we are in, (only if Denmark beat Wales, Viva obviously)

[DRCraig]

That was drama.So many twists and turns. Gosh. I am enjoying the Euros now.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Just watched Portugal v Germany first half. I hope England team are watching how to move forward with the ball and create chances.

Also sat thinking a draw Tuesday to finish second is a great result to avoid either of these 2

Depends what your ambition is.

England finishing second gives them an easier R2 tie, then a very hard QF/SF.

Finishing 1st gives them a much easier run to the final, albeit with a harder R2 tie.

As I was saying...

[Filo]

We can beat the Germans.

Of course we can, we've beaten them on a number of occasions in the last few years.

Not when it counts though

[RoversAlias]

Incredible in Berlin. Germans level up then concede straight away.

The game was in Munich, Hound, but yes it was a pretty dramatic night!

I personally am glad we're playing Germany. They have shown fragility throughout the group games even if they did score 4 against Portugal. Hope we can get through.

[silent majority]

We can beat the Germans.

Of course we can, we've beaten them on a number of occasions in the last few years.

Not when it counts though

Such as?

[RoversAlias]

We've played Germany in four friendlies since they trounced us in the 2010 World Cup, and won only once.

In competitive matches stretching back to Italia 90, we have won twice, lost twice and gone out on penalties after a 1-1 draw twice. One of the wins was the famous 5-1 in 2001, and the other was an ultimately meaningless 1-0 win in Euro 2000 as both teams got knocked out in the group stage.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Couldn't have asked for a better draw.

We have only ever beaten one of the top 10 sides in the world in the knockout stages of a major tournament since 1966. (Spain in 1996). In every other tournament Knockout stage we have been eliminated every time we've come up against a real contender.

According to the FIFA rankings (yeah I know...) the only side bar England in our half of the draw in the current top 10 is Denmark. There are 5 such sides in the other half of the draw (Belgium, France, Italy, Spain and Portugal).

England will never ever have an easier run to a Euro final. (The 2018 WC was arguably even easier.)

[dickos1]

Nobody remembers how you got there or who you played
Look at Portugal in the last euros, they got to the final by drawing with
Iceland, Hungary, Austria, Croatia, Poland and beating Wales.

[drfchound]

We've played Germany in four friendlies since they trounced us in the 2010 World Cup, and won only once.

In competitive matches stretching back to Italia 90, we have won twice, lost twice and gone out on penalties after a 1-1 draw twice. One of the wins was the famous 5-1 in 2001, and the other was an ultimately meaningless 1-0 win in Euro 2000 as both teams got knocked out in the group stage.

So in the last six competitive matches the Germans have only beaten us twice, with the exception of the penalty shoot outs.
Ha, as I write there is an article on the bbc news about a bloke who has had long covid and they finished with “so positive about being negative”.
I guess that applies to some posters on here when the talk about England football.

[pib]

Nobody remembers how you got there or who you played
Look at Portugal in the last euros, they got to the final by drawing with
Iceland, Hungary, Austria, Croatia, Poland and beating Wales.

Was that from memory or did you look it up? 

[Chris Black come back]

In Euro 2016 Portugal beat Croatia 1-0. In the knock out stages they only needed penalties once to beat a side (Poland in the QF).

[drfchound]

Just to change the topic a bit, belated congratulations should go to Billy Gilmour for achieving Scotland’s only positive result during the tournament.

[Filo]

Scotland leaving Europe against their will again, Sturgeon will be fuming

[dickos1]

In Euro 2016 Portugal beat Croatia 1-0. In the knock out stages they only needed penalties once to beat a side (Poland in the QF).

Not in 90 mins they didn’t
It went to extra time

[Chris Black come back]

They didn’t draw with them though. They beat them. Whether within 90 or 120 minutes, they beat them at a game of football, rather than the random result generator of a penalty shootout.

The more relevant point was their three draws in the group games.

[dickos1]

Not really,
If I’d have put a bet on them to draw with croatia at the bookies I’d have won the bet

[dickos1]

Nobody will be raving about Italy anymore,
Still Not played anyone of note