Channel crossing record beat.(again and again and again)

[ncRover]

Crossing the English Channel, one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world, on poorly maintained small boats and dinghies is dangerous enough.

But these people have been smuggled much further distances by criminals at even greater danger.

This story is beyond horrific www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65925558

When will the international community come together to put a stop to this abhorrent, dangerous and cruel trade?

What’s the answer for stopping the people smugglers?

[albie]

Let people come on the ferry, like you and me do.
Then process their applications promptly once they are safe, to decide if they have a legitimate claim.

It really is very easy, if we want to take out the smugglers, and manage the inflow, rather than stoking headlines in the gutter press for political advantage.

[Branton Red]

Crossing the English Channel, one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world, on poorly maintained small boats and dinghies is dangerous enough.

But these people have been smuggled much further distances by criminals at even greater danger.

This story is beyond horrific www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65925558

When will the international community come together to put a stop to this abhorrent, dangerous and cruel trade?

What’s the answer for stopping the people smugglers?

3 suggestions

1) Pursuing International policing co-operation going for the criminal gangs. A couple of years ago after migrants died crossing the Channel it was amazingly enlightening how quickly, with international co-operation, the criminal gang responsible were brought to justice.

2) Set up refugee processing centres as close to the borders of the countries most refugees come from as possible. Save the refugees therefore the need of travelling dangerously 100s of miles using criminal gangs and give the most vulnerable and needing of our protection more chance of applying.

3) In said centres take photos and fingerprints of all applicants. Those whose applications fail should be told clearly that if they at a later date are caught entering Europe that their failed application will still be valid and they will be immediately deported. Hence again preventing unnecessary fraught journeys to Europe using criminals.

[Colin C No.3]

Crossing the English Channel, one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world, on poorly maintained small boats and dinghies is dangerous enough.

But these people have been smuggled much further distances by criminals at even greater danger.

This story is beyond horrific www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65925558

When will the international community come together to put a stop to this abhorrent, dangerous and cruel trade?

What’s the answer for stopping the people smugglers?

3 suggestions

1) Pursuing International policing co-operation going for the criminal gangs. A couple of years ago after migrants died crossing the Channel it was amazingly enlightening how quickly, with international co-operation, the criminal gang responsible were brought to justice.

2) Set up refugee processing centres as close to the borders of the countries most refugees come from as possible. Save the refugees therefore the need of travelling dangerously 100s of miles using criminal gangs and give the most vulnerable and needing of our protection more chance of applying.

3) In said centres take photos and fingerprints of all applicants. Those whose applications fail should be told clearly that if they at a later date are caught entering Europe that their failed application will still be valid and they will be immediately deported. Hence again preventing unnecessary fraught journeys to Europe using criminals.

Really?

Run that one by the people crossing the channel in inflatables.

It’s political jargon. When you have ANY possibility of bringing your children from poverty or a war zone, as a parent I’d do it…you’d do it.

I voted Brexit to ‘protect our borders’ having finished my career as a Customs Officer & seeing those borders abused & crossed by so many ‘young men’ who because of the government’s inadequate ‘holding places’ & non-existent monitoring of such men ended up with them ultimately being ‘lost in the system’ & free to wander the country.

I was duped along with the other 17,000 who voted to leave the EU for similar purposes.

During WW11 being an island was our saving grace.

Fast forward half a generation & that island has become a beacon for an unarmed invasion we have no idea how to deal with.

[wilts rover]

Another record for Sunak. Last month was the highest total for June since records began:

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1675906177551544322

[Colin C No.3]

Graeme Souness at it now!

[drfchound]

That is funny CC3.

[Colin C No.3]

Gotta lighten the load sometimes hound…..no irreverence intended.

[normal rules]

Let people come on the ferry, like you and me do.
Then process their applications promptly once they are safe, to decide if they have a legitimate claim.

It really is very easy, if we want to take out the smugglers, and manage the inflow, rather than stoking headlines in the gutter press for political advantage.

33 yr old asylum seeker staying at the tax payer funded County Hotel in Skegness has recently been charged with rape of a local woman . He had been in the uk just 40 days. He arrived on a boat.
How would you feel if this victim was your aunt, or mum, or sister?
Bbc news won’t show this though will they?
Yeah, let them come on the ferry. In fact, let’s send some planes direct to Iraq to pick them up. Ffs.
Next time you go to Skegness. Take a walk around Tower Gardens. That bit just off Grand Parade where families gather. This is where this beast dragged his victim into the bushes before attacking her..
But it’s ok, because he was “safe” in the uk and I’m sure the authorities thought his claim was legitimate too.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwicn9etsPj_AhUZTkEAHVJYD3cQFnoECBAQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-12251981%2FTensions-grow-Skegness-migrant-charged-raping-woman-park.html&usg=AOvVaw0MkAgm8lNI2Y8FD8FODMIN&opi=89978449

[wilts rover]

The Metropolitan Police are reviewing 1691 cases of alleged sexual assualt by 1061 of it's officers.

How would you feel if one of these 1000's of victims was your aunt, mum or sister?

But you wont find this on right wing twitter.

And your aunt, mum or sister is more likely to encounter a dodgy copper than they are an asylum seeker.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/01/17/1000-met-police-officers-investigated-over-sexual-and-abuse-claims-18112806/

Lock up all criminals. It's irrelevant who they are or where they came from. Unless of course you have a particular thing about race?

[normal rules]

Deviant cops/ doctors/ nurses/ judges/ bbc presenters exist within our society  whether we like it or not. The vast majority are British “ citizens” and I use that term in the loosest sense.
The Skegness rape was totally preventable.
The beast should have never been here.

[Ldr]

Simple solution, we don’t grant asylum to anyone. Who really cares what our reputation is

[Sprotyrover]

The Metropolitan Police are reviewing 1691 cases of alleged sexual assualt by 1061 of it's officers.

How would you feel if one of these 1000's of victims was your aunt, mum or sister?

But you wont find this on right wing twitter.

And your aunt, mum or sister is more likely to encounter a dodgy copper than they are an asylum seeker.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/01/17/1000-met-police-officers-investigated-over-sexual-and-abuse-claims-18112806/

Lock up all criminals. It's irrelevant who they are or where they came from. Unless of course you have a particular thing about race?

So they are reviewing 1600 old cases they decided did not warrant fit action to see if each one was dealt with correctly , so you really see 1,000 Police officers get charged? I would wait until the cases are reviewed before likening members of our Police Force to illegal immigrants
I think you should keep your flippant comments to yourself, Our Police Force recruits are heavily vetted, they are now re vetted every 12 months and also vetted if they apply to move into another department ie Traffic from the Beat! Your remarks are simply childish.we Don’t recruit Police officers from Russian Gaols we recruit them from our own society!
A typical hysterical knee jerk mis informative quote from Wilts Rover!

[Iberian Red]

The Metropolitan Police are reviewing 1691 cases of alleged sexual assualt by 1061 of it's officers.

How would you feel if one of these 1000's of victims was your aunt, mum or sister?

But you wont find this on right wing twitter.

And your aunt, mum or sister is more likely to encounter a dodgy copper than they are an asylum seeker.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/01/17/1000-met-police-officers-investigated-over-sexual-and-abuse-claims-18112806/

Lock up all criminals. It's irrelevant who they are or where they came from. Unless of course you have a particular thing about race?

So they are reviewing 1600 old cases they decided did not warrant fit action to see if each one was dealt with correctly , so you really see 1,000 Police officers get charged? I would wait until the cases are reviewed before likening members of our Police Force to illegal immigrants
I think you should keep your flippant comments to yourself, Our Police Force recruits are heavily vetted, they are now re vetted every 12 months and also vetted if they apply to move into another department ie Traffic from the Beat! Your remarks are simply childish.we Don’t recruit Police officers from Russian Gaols we recruit them from our own society!

FFS! A rapist is a rapist regardless of their background! 

[drfchound]

The Metropolitan Police are reviewing 1691 cases of alleged sexual assualt by 1061 of it's officers.

How would you feel if one of these 1000's of victims was your aunt, mum or sister?

But you wont find this on right wing twitter.

And your aunt, mum or sister is more likely to encounter a dodgy copper than they are an asylum seeker.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/01/17/1000-met-police-officers-investigated-over-sexual-and-abuse-claims-18112806/

Lock up all criminals. It's irrelevant who they are or where they came from. Unless of course you have a particular thing about race?

So they are reviewing 1600 old cases they decided did not warrant fit action to see if each one was dealt with correctly , so you really see 1,000 Police officers get charged? I would wait until the cases are reviewed before likening members of our Police Force to illegal immigrants
I think you should keep your flippant comments to yourself, Our Police Force recruits are heavily vetted, they are now re vetted every 12 months and also vetted if they apply to move into another department ie Traffic from the Beat! Your remarks are simply childish.we Don’t recruit Police officers from Russian Gaols we recruit them from our own society!

FFS! A rapist is a rapist regardless of their background!

Well, unless they are wrongly convicted like Makinson.
Last week people would have said he is a rapist but this week he isn’t.

[Iberian Red]

How very pedantic.
For years justice has been sought in that particular case.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Simple solution, we don’t grant asylum to anyone. Who really cares what our reputation is

Would you have been on the side of those, led by the Daily Mail, who would have closed our borders to Jews fleeing Germany in the 1930s?

[Iberian Red]

Simple solution, we don’t grant asylum to anyone. Who really cares what our reputation is

Would you have been on the side of those, led by the Daily Mail, who would have closed our borders to Jews fleeing Germany in the 1930s?

Probably.
Apologies Ldr,I thought after reading that quote it was from one of the regular racists on here.

[drfchound]

Simple solution, we don’t grant asylum to anyone. Who really cares what our reputation is

Would you have been on the side of those, led by the Daily Mail, who would have closed our borders to Jews fleeing Germany in the 1930s?

Probably.
Apologies Ldr,I thought after reading that quote it was from one of the regular racists on here.

Who are the regular racists on here Iberian?

[Sprotyrover]

The Metropolitan Police are reviewing 1691 cases of alleged sexual assualt by 1061 of it's officers.

How would you feel if one of these 1000's of victims was your aunt, mum or sister?

But you wont find this on right wing twitter.

And your aunt, mum or sister is more likely to encounter a dodgy copper than they are an asylum seeker.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/01/17/1000-met-police-officers-investigated-over-sexual-and-abuse-claims-18112806/

Lock up all criminals. It's irrelevant who they are or where they came from. Unless of course you have a particular thing about race?

So they are reviewing 1600 old cases they decided did not warrant fit action to see if each one was dealt with correctly , so you really see 1,000 Police officers get charged? I would wait until the cases are reviewed before likening members of our Police Force to illegal immigrants
I think you should keep your flippant comments to yourself, Our Police Force recruits are heavily vetted, they are now re vetted every 12 months and also vetted if they apply to move into another department ie Traffic from the Beat! Your remarks are simply childish.we Don’t recruit Police officers from Russian Gaols we recruit them from our own society!

FFS! A rapist is a rapist regardless of their background! 

Do you really, really believe that there are 1691 alleged rapes committed  by Met Police officers being re investigated ???
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjI546sq7KAAxW6UkEAHURfBj4QFnoECA4QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Fmet-police-reviewing-over-1-600-cases-of-alleged-sexual-offences-and-domestic-abuse-involving-its-staff-12788452&usg=AOvVaw2p0f_uZHVXmnPjb7A3OaNO&opi=89978449

[drfchound]

How very pedantic.
For years justice has been sought in that particular case.

There will be plenty of others in jail pleading their innocence too.

[Sprotyrover]

How very pedantic.
For years justice has been sought in that particular case.

There will be plenty of others in jail pleading their innocence too.

I reviewed every South Yorkshire sentenced offender arriving at a Prison in Doncaster between 2014 and 2016, something like 95% had not committed the crime they were convicted of, most had no replied throughout their tape recorded interview and most were convicted on Forensic evidence alone, Blood on themselves or the victim, blood inside the house they hadn’t burgled etc.

[drfchound]

How very pedantic.
For years justice has been sought in that particular case.

There will be plenty of others in jail pleading their innocence too.

I reviewed every South Yorkshire sentenced offender arriving at a Prison in Doncaster between 2014 and 2016, something like 95% had not committed the crime they were convicted of, most had no replied throughout their tape recorded interview and most were convicted on Forensic evidence alone, Blood on themselves or the victim, blood inside the house they hadn’t burgled etc.

Yes sproty, interesting that.
I have several friends who are prison officers at Moorlands and they tell me that loads of inmates claim they were wrongly convicted.
How true their claims are, well who knows.

[Sprotyrover]

How very pedantic.
For years justice has been sought in that particular case.

There will be plenty of others in jail pleading their innocence too.

I reviewed every South Yorkshire sentenced offender arriving at a Prison in Doncaster between 2014 and 2016, something like 95% had not committed the crime they were convicted of, most had no replied throughout their tape recorded interview and most were convicted on Forensic evidence alone, Blood on themselves or the victim, blood inside the house they hadn’t burgled etc.

Yes sproty, interesting that.
I have several friends who are prison officers at Moorlands and they tell me that loads of inmates claim they were wrongly convicted.
How true their claims are, well who knows.

Can’t speak for the present but back in 2016 the Sentenced or remanded innocents came from Court with a PER form which did not show any summary of the circumstances of the
Miscaiiof just ther had suffered, one guy came in
Terry x from Lincoln, he told the reception staff that he was perplexed and very upset for getting 14 years for a carrier bag full of Cannabis he was caught with, oh dear poor Terry got the full run of the prison and an orderly job in the Gym so he had contact with all of the inmates, as they all love their gym sessions, can you imagine the opportunities? Any way when Sprotbrough looked into it, he was actually the Kingpin for the whole drug dealing and supply network in Northern England, he had control over the O’Rourkes in Manchester, three Black heroin dealers in Yorkshire, our very own Doncaster top dog xxxx, the Freemans in Northumbria, the deal was that as he was the Big boss he would only handle the Cannabis operation as it was the lowest sentence when caught,
So the NCS had conducted a massive 12 month long operation which included secret follows as they were meeting in Lay-bys like Marr
Anyway the NCS concocted enough evidence to convict them all in our very unjust Court system, the others all got very heavy sentences and Terry got 14 years for his ‘Bit of Canabis’ any he had his cell busted shortly after that and he was moved to a Cat A and activities severely restricted.

[danumdon]

Have i just entered as parallel universe or was this thread originally about Channel crossing Refugees?

[drfchound]

Simple solution, we don’t grant asylum to anyone. Who really cares what our reputation is

Would you have been on the side of those, led by the Daily Mail, who would have closed our borders to Jews fleeing Germany in the 1930s?

Probably.
Apologies Ldr,I thought after reading that quote it was from one of the regular racists on here.

Who are the regular racists on here Iberian?

Iberian, it is interesting that you throw in the grenade that the forum has regular racists but won’t back up your post when asked who they are.

[Iberian Red]

If it looks like a duck,
and posts like a xenophobe

[Iberian Red]

Simple solution, we don’t grant asylum to anyone. Who really cares what our reputation is

Would you have been on the side of those, led by the Daily Mail, who would have closed our borders to Jews fleeing Germany in the 1930s?

Probably.
Apologies Ldr,I thought after reading that quote it was from one of the regular racists on here.

Who are the regular racists on here Iberian?

Iberian, it is interesting that you throw in the grenade that the forum has regular racists but won’t back up your post when asked who they are.

Nice try GG.
Keep lobbing them,and eventually you might hit the target.

[drfchound]

Simple solution, we don’t grant asylum to anyone. Who really cares what our reputation is

Would you have been on the side of those, led by the Daily Mail, who would have closed our borders to Jews fleeing Germany in the 1930s?

Probably.
Apologies Ldr,I thought after reading that quote it was from one of the regular racists on here.

Who are the regular racists on here Iberian?

Iberian, it is interesting that you throw in the grenade that the forum has regular racists but won’t back up your post when asked who they are.

Nice try GG.
Keep lobbing them,and eventually you might hit the target.

LoL.
It was you who chucked the last one but very obviously you daren’t back up your accusations.
Sad man.
Stick to defending the leader.

[Iberian Red]

Who might my leader be?
 
 You're sending like one of those obsessed teens on tik tok I keep reading about.